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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Peak Transing

999 replies

Apollo440 · 12/07/2019 15:05

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/07/2019 15:08

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RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 15:11

So anyone who doesn't agree with you is an aggressive TRA?
Ooookay Confused Hmm

Boom25 · 12/07/2019 15:13

They really are doing our work for us. The difference between reasonable women prepared to debate and consider and agressive men who can't stand women having opinions and disagreeing with them has never been starker. Carry on TRAs!

HeadintheiClouds · 12/07/2019 15:16

Stop with the wide eyed faux misunderstanding, Roses, ffs

RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 15:23

I'm not "wide eyed misunderstanding"
Even on this thread it's already "aggressive men who can't stand women having opinions"
I've been on that thread disagreeing with some and I'm not a man and the other one you presumably mean as they're disagreeing loudly has said they're not to.
You say "they're doing the job for us" well it works both ways - threads with "you're a man" etc opens peoples eyes the other way as well.
What would be the equivalent when you say peaktrans? Peak radfem?

littlbrowndog · 12/07/2019 15:26

You are roses

That person calling women cunts

littlbrowndog · 12/07/2019 15:27

It was well obvious what was going on there

RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 15:29

Ah right, I missed where the other poster called people c**ts then.
Not on if so

AnyOldPrion · 12/07/2019 20:21

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AnyOldPrion · 12/07/2019 20:22

Cunts and tits. Classic women’s word usage....

XXcstatic · 12/07/2019 20:58

Post of the year, if not the decade Grin

Peak Transing
DpWm · 12/07/2019 21:25

Whenever TRAs get airtime they peak trans people exponentially. No wonder we had #NoDebate for so long.

OhHolyJesus · 12/07/2019 22:48

Well that's 20 mins of my life I'm not getting back. I honestly can't keep up with the rapidly moving threads, thanks for the heads up though OP. Lots of new posters there, interesting...

Earlywalker · 12/07/2019 23:09

Haven’t read the thread you’re referring too so pass no comment on that specifically but I do find ‘peak trans’ so grotesque.

I’m trying to imagine any other scenario where this is acceptable and nope. ‘Peak gay’ and ‘peak Muslim’ just don’t have the same ring to it.

RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 23:16

@EarlyWalker it's one in AIBU Smile
I'm on it. Been told to check what;s behind my ears for having a different viewpoint, go figure lol.
I'm completely with you here when you say how is peaktrans acceptable when peakmuslim or peakgay (completely rightly!) isn't acceptable

RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 23:18

Or was it between my ears? One of the two, whichever it was was obviously insinuating I'm brainless so maybe that's why I can't remember whether it was between or behind without going back and scrolling Grin

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RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 23:26

Peak gay"?? "Peak Muslim"?? You're the homophobe here. You're the racist here.Your slip is showing

Eh? How do you figure that one out?
I thought it was a perfectly valid question - why is it OK to say peaktrans but not peakmuslim or peakgay?

Earlywalker · 12/07/2019 23:27

Occasional I think you need a lesson in comprehension and irony.

Rather than crying a river, why don’t you debate your viewpoint instead? Why is ‘peak trans’ not transphobic or offensive but ‘peak Muslim’ by your own admission is racist (FYI, Muslims isn’t a race) and ‘peak gay’ homophobic? Please elaborate?

FertilitySchmertility · 12/07/2019 23:33

It’s valid to question the trans movement. To be transgender, you have to believe that normatively, people are born with innate gender characteristics that align with their sex. Most GC people don’t believe that. That’s not the same as claiming that the concept of Islam doesn’t exist or homosexuality doesn’t exist.

Also, Roses, since you’re naming minorities to lump in together, how about women. Can I recommend peak misogyny?

RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 23:37

Also, Roses, since you’re naming minorities to lump in together

I didn't do anything of the sort, I was just agreeing with EarlyWalker when she said how is it acceptable to say peaktrans when it isn't for other minorities?
As for your misogyny argument - well, that's subjective.
What's misogyny for you could be fine for me as women we're all different and think differently.

FertilitySchmertility · 12/07/2019 23:38

Misogyny is a pretty objective concept as a system of oppression...

Earlywalker · 12/07/2019 23:40

There is probably more evidence for the concept of transgenderism than their is for any religion so I’m not really buying into that explanation tbh.

What is your interpretation of what the phrase ‘peak trans’ means?

Woman aren’t a minority either, we are an oppressed group, definitely, not a minority. By your definition ‘peak misogyny’ would mean you don’t really believe in misogyny though, wouldn’t it?

RosesAndRaindrops · 12/07/2019 23:44

Woman aren’t a minority either, we are an oppressed group, definitely, not a minority

Exactly!

FertilitySchmertility · 12/07/2019 23:45

I didn’t say the existence of God - you don’t believe that religions exist?

That’s interesting though. There are parallels. There are cases where people’s religious beliefs have and do impact on the rights of women but they are upheld. But I don’t agree with that either.

I suppose the difference is the difficulty in disproving religious beliefs - whereas we have biological fact to refute the concept of transgenderism.