Peak Transing

[Apollo440]

This thread on AIBU has been joined by some aggressive TRAs who are doing sterling work peak transing the more delicate areas of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3634784-to-not-want-to-sign-off-my-emails-with-preferred-pronouns

Real TWAW No debate or your c*nts type. Carry on I say!

I think spending too much time getting angry at another group of human beings can turn you into a paranoid and irrational person.

Judging by the increasingly irrational and violent threats against women coming from TRAs, I think there may be some truth in this.

It’s not about questioning reasons behind GD, it’s about saying things like the above quote ‘how could you possibly feel you’re in the wrong body’ it’s questioning the entire underlying belief that makes a trans persons identity.

What's the difference ?

The reasons behind gender dysphoria is the same as an 'underlying belief in trans identity'. (If you are saying that a trans identity is the belief you are the opposite sex, rather than someone who just like to cross dress.)

I’m not really interested in whether people think we shouldn’t be angry (or, in fact, frightened) about this issue.

We are.

Except teaching transgender ideology in school does encourage kids to think they're trans. 76 kids in one school, 10 girls simultaneously in one year. Thousands of children turning up at gender clinics

Sorry, but you're just reeling off numbers now. 76 kids in one school, another 10 in one year?
What schools?
Thousands How do you know it's "thousands?" Have you counted them all in or something?

All documented Rose, all documented.

Plus I have given you the links before under your previous names.

It's peak trans ideology/movement, not peak trans individual people.

Peak anti-woman activism isn't so pithy. Neither is peak destroy-child-safeguarding.

Same thing though.

Although I suppose some #gendermustnotbementioned strawpersonning is the only thing left in the arsenal so we have to have a gazillion posts on threads using it.

As Nietzsche said, when you're fighting monsters (perceived or otherwise), you have to be careful not to become one yourself.

I've no doubt there's unpleasant behaviour on the other side. But the behaviour on MN is far, far from pleasant. You've only got to look at the way anyone who disagrees or questions the party line is instantly branded stupid or misogynistic, or even worse. There's an abyss on MN and it's getting really dark.

All documented Rose, all documented
Where? Genuine question. Surely you can't expect people to just blindly swallow numbers that seem to be plucked out of thin air but refuse to say your source?

Plus I have given you the links before under your previous names
No you haven't. Definitely haven't given me links to them before

You've only got to look at the way anyone who disagrees or questions the party line is instantly branded stupid or misogynistic, or even worse. There's an abyss on MN and it's getting really dark
Completely agree with everything you say there - and I refused to fall down it.

Why is it not ‘Peak transactivism’ ?

If you’re all so keen to constantly trot out the ‘we’re not transphobic we just care about woman and girls’ line, why would you continue using such a phrase?

No you haven't. Definitely haven't given me links to them before

I have. You've just forgotten.

It's a pithy contraction.

We know this. You know this. We know you know this. You know we know this.

I'm lost past caring what names I get called.

Thousands How do you know it's "thousands?" Have you counted them all in or something?

The gender clinics count them for us.

gids.nhs.uk/number-referrals

You seem remarkably poorly informed for someone who is so sure that they are right. Perhaps you should go off and do some research or 'educate yourself' as the TRAs like to say.

I also verify that Datun has her information right, it's very well documented.
Perhaps you should read more newspapers Roses?

"You're all horrible!"

Okay.

"Just admit you are all horrible"

"You have the right to that opinion"

"Horrible"

Okay.

....Short version of the thread, for those who don't want to read it...

Why is it not ‘Peak transactivism’ ?

Maybe it is. Shortened to 'peak trans'. I don't know, I didn't invent the term.

That’s fine lang,interesting considering I know how important you think language is.

Which thread Captain?

Which thread Captain?

This one.

Transactivism is shortened to TRA, transgender/sexual is shortened to trans. You know that is not the case old.

I don't know what thread Captain is referring to, but I have never seen a single thread on MN on this subject follow that script.

Ah I see, another petty attempt at gaslighting. ‘Don’t read the thread and decide for yourselves, they’re just saying we’re nasty... don’t form your own opinion, just read my non-bias synopsis’

helpful... do carry on.

Another "Peak Trans" moment a lot of people have is where they see the amount of times "TERFS" are told to die, be raped, be killed in a variety of creative ways, by trans people. Then they have a bit of a look, realise "Terfs" are actually normal sensible scientifically accurate caring people, and gasp, maybe I am one, and the people I've been supporting all this time want to kill me.

Not a good look for a movement really is it.

I have. You've just forgotten

You really, really haven't. You're mistaking me for someone else as you definitely haven't given me them links before.
Nice try at trying to make me doubt myself though.
Even if you had have (which you haven't despite you keeping saying you have) how does that help this thread?
You just reeled off "thousands of people" and "all these people in this school and that school" - presumably so people would be OMG that's terrible, too many people?
All I said was can you cite your source

76 kids in one school, another 10 in one year? What schools?

Since you appear not to be able to do internet searches, and you don't seem to have read any newspapers for the last 3 or 4 years, here are some links for you.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-groups-under-fire-for-huge-rise-in-child-referrals-2ttm8c0fr

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/london-school-girl-pupils-gender-neutral-identify-male-st-pauls-public-school-a7589701.html