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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman in PVS for 10 years raped, gives birth

224 replies

VickyEadie · 04/01/2019 20:10

www.lifenews.com/2019/01/04/woman-comatose-for-a-decade-gives-birth-unexpectedly-police-launch-sexual-assault-investigation/

Men are appalling.

OP posts:
Beerflavourednipples · 05/01/2019 12:07

10th rule of misogyny: the worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

Of course the most important, overriding all else thing we must take from a story like this is that NAMALT. Hmm

Fuck. Right. Off.

Haworthia · 05/01/2019 12:12

It’s being discussed on Reddit and, apparently, NAMALT is pretty tame compared with some of the excuses people are coming up with.

Woman in PVS for 10 years raped, gives birth
BeholdTheNewTablecloth · 05/01/2019 12:19

Well, based on that screenshot QALOMALT (OW)*

*or worse

Given that a large percentage of men surveyed said they would commit rape if they would get away with it, colour me shocked Hmm

bluescreen · 05/01/2019 12:20

It’s being discussed on Reddit and, apparently, NAMALT is pretty tame compared with some of the excuses people are coming up with.

That is sickening. Even when I try to persuade myself that it must be teenage boys egging each other on to out-disgust each other, their behaviour must come from nasty misogynistic roots that poison society.

bluescreen · 05/01/2019 12:21

2MMALT

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 05/01/2019 12:31

Haworthia

Angry

How can ANYONE suggest that a woman in a PVS for 10 years should have been on birth control??? I mean, I don't understand the morals of anyone who can say the rest of the excuses given there either, but I don't even get the logic behind that one, never mind the ethics.

StealthPolarBear · 05/01/2019 12:43

That reddit screenshot... There is still so far to go.
Poor woman.

hackmum · 05/01/2019 12:53

How can ANYONE suggest that a woman in a PVS for 10 years should have been on birth control???

I imagine the logic is that the hospital should have put her on birth control, because they should have guessed that their male staff were so depraved that they might rape her.

Obviously that's a much more logical solution than making sure male staff aren't left alone with female patients, or making sure you don't employ rapists.

The interesting thing about that logic is that it absolutely assumes the worst of men ie that left to their own devices, men will rape an unconscious woman. And they claim it's feminists who demonise men.

RussellSprout · 05/01/2019 13:14

Obviously the fact that a woman in a coma was raped is disgusting.

However, on the NAMALT issue, the OP said 'men are appalling' in her OP.

I take exception to this.

I have a father, he's a man
I have a husband, he's a man
I have a son, one day he'll be a man

No way do I want these people associated in any way with the disgusting scumbag who raped a comatose woman.

So, if NAMALT please can the OP not suggest AMALT by saying 'men are appalling.

Big tarring with the same brush going on there OP, just stop it.

AssassinatedBeauty · 05/01/2019 13:19

"Men are appalling" is so obviously not a claim that your specific husband/father/son/brother is appalling. Hence the intense irritation that this discussion about horrific abuse is being derailed by people wittering on about NAMALT.

RussellSprout · 05/01/2019 13:20

Well, the OP shouldn't have generalised then should she.

Beerflavourednipples · 05/01/2019 13:23

Don't worry Russell no one is saying your husband is appalling. Obviously.

98% of sexual offences and the vast majority of other violent offences are committed by men. Men as a class are pretty appalling.

GenderIsAPrison · 05/01/2019 13:26

Should she be more precise with her language by saying ‘some men are appalling’, in order for people not to be offended and take it personally?

GenderIsAPrison · 05/01/2019 13:27

In order for SOME people not to be offended....
....obviously.

Elfinablender · 05/01/2019 13:29

Isn't it funny that you can say, "Humans are appalling" and people will nod sagely and agree that our species does tend to make things worse and not one person feels compelled to jump up and down and say that they have been unfairly tarnished because they have done some recycling this week and travelled by bike?

Melanippe · 05/01/2019 13:30

What percentage of men need to be appalling before we're allowed to notice it?

A ballpark is fine.

GenderIsAPrison · 05/01/2019 13:32

But when it comes to talking about men...it seems you have to walk on eggshells 🥚 or have be extremely articulate to express a view so as not to offend.

Another way of silencing I suppose.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/01/2019 13:33

I think the only way to stop people being appalling is to be honest about their behaviour and to shame them. men as a class are appalling. it's just a fact I'm afraid.

sackrifice · 05/01/2019 14:13

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bluescreen · 05/01/2019 14:21

However it doesn't take away from the FACT that men as a class are fucking animals

Guaranteed that some man, somewhere, is doing precisely that right now.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/01/2019 14:22

of course the question of why men as a class behave abhorrently is very interesting

let's all hope to god it's nurture not nature eh?

Haworthia · 05/01/2019 14:25

Jesus, people are still crying NAMALT?

I have a father, a brother, a husband and a son. Somehow I still feel able to say that men, as a class, are appalling without any hand wringing or guilt. It’s not that hard. It’s a fact.

I know we as women are socialised to be nice at all times and never offend, but that only perpetuates rape culture.

AntiSocialInjusticePacifist · 05/01/2019 14:30

I think the estimates are that somewhere in the ballpark of 6% of men are rapists. If we can find maybe 6% (or more) of any demographic are criminal in anyway are we then allowed to make sweeping generalizations about that demographic for example? Say by race/religion/nationality? If not why?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/01/2019 14:31

OK AntiSocialInjusticePacifist men as a class are a danger to women and children.

does phrasing it that way make the facts easier on your delicate feelings?