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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman in PVS for 10 years raped, gives birth

224 replies

VickyEadie · 04/01/2019 20:10

www.lifenews.com/2019/01/04/woman-comatose-for-a-decade-gives-birth-unexpectedly-police-launch-sexual-assault-investigation/

Men are appalling.

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AngryAttackKittens · 06/01/2019 22:46

Have I mentioned lately how much I love you, Lang? Cause I do.

LangCleg · 06/01/2019 22:52

Have I mentioned lately how much I love you, Lang? Cause I do.

Right back atcha.

SharkAttack1972 · 06/01/2019 22:57

Someone mentioned before, that men should not be un supervised with women and children. Ie nursing etc. Is it just me who thinks this is a good idea? I am sick of hearing stories like this happening to women and once I have read them , I never forget it.

powershowerforanhour · 06/01/2019 23:12

There's only one suitable punishment for the perp. A dose of curare and "bring out the gimp".

tubspreciousthings · 06/01/2019 23:33

What is it that makes (some) men think this is a good idea? Is it just opportunity with little chance of being found out?

How can we raise boys to know that this is not ok?

Horsewithnomane · 07/01/2019 09:04
  • This is an "All men are like that" comment.

If feminists don't want to hear NAMALT comments stop saying AMALT.*

If you can't tell, just by looking, which men are like that and which aren't then, you know, just to be on the safe side...

And I don't think that actually the OP even said that; I think when people say things like "men, eh?" I think that really they are not saying all men behave this way but that ONLY men behave this way.

In the main.

Micke · 07/01/2019 09:07

What is it that makes (some) men think this is a good idea? Is it just opportunity with little chance of being found out?

There was a survey - I'll find the link, but it boiled down to if you could rape someone with no repercussions (a woman having been raped wasn't thought of as a repercussion) , would you, and some huge percentage of men said yes.

Ah, found it: researchgate

the participants were asked to answer questions using an "attraction to sexual aggression" scale about their likelihood of doing certain things - two of which being rape a woman, and force her to do something she didn't want to do "if nobody would ever know and there wouldn't be any consequences". From the respondents (only 86 men, colleague students) 31% of them would force a woman to do something sexually, and 13% would rape a woman.

Horsewithnomane · 07/01/2019 09:15

And you know what? White people do suck as a class. Colonising half the world and shitting over everyone. Just because I personally didn't do it doesn't mean I don't share the benefit and share the responsibility.

True dat.

chaoticgood · 07/01/2019 12:04

I worked in a care home in the noughties and there really seemed to be no awareness at all that sexual abuse was any kind of concern. Absolutely zero. It was a ward for elderly people with mental illness, mixed sex, some mobile and some not, and there were no locks on the bedroom doors. At one point it transpired (what a surprise) that a male patient was going into a female patient's room and "touching her". It was suggested that maybe locks on the doors could be arranged. They did not appear.

There was a male carer who was profoundly sexist, saying to female patients "you're just a woman" and laughing in their faces. Hideous man. I didn't report his behaviour - not that I think it would have made any difference.

A female patient, who could not speak, who had been in just a few weeks, suffered a severe decline in her mood, from confused but quite sparkly to hanging her head in misery. Her husband was distraught and asked every visit, in tears, what had happened to her. I was changing this woman's clothes one day and discovered bright green vaginal discharge. I showed the Nurse and she said "Ooh, I don't know what that is, but I've only seen it once before and the patient died soon after".

I didn't blow any whistles, I just suddenly felt like I wasn't enjoying the job (no shit) and left. I regret this so much that it haunts me to this day. Especially because I was in a very privileged position compared to most care workers and had far less to lose. I wonder how many others, dependent on the income, would have been in the same position and felt unable to speak out.

staydazzling · 07/01/2019 13:09

read an article saying another residents mum is sleeping with them inthe room until the assailant is found. i dont blame them i bet its a bit awkward though.

AssassinatedBeauty · 07/01/2019 13:14

Well you'd do it to protect your child, and I'm sure they're struggling with the awful thought that it could have already happened to them. It's horrific.

staydazzling · 07/01/2019 13:15

Thats terrible chaoticgood, what was the bright green DC a symptom of do you think? STI??

staydazzling · 07/01/2019 13:22

yup these people have just no sexual inhibitions left, and it causes a lot of misjudgment based on fear and embarassment and then in some cases abuse, the care system is so ripe for abuse. the attitude of management is often terrible Hmm when i did my first ever night sit in community care i was assaulted repeatedly by a man with dementia in his 80s obviously no inhibitions anymore , obviously not his fault but upsetting, i told my supervisor who found it hilarious and spread it around the whole company.Angry just toxic,

chaoticgood · 07/01/2019 14:04

staydazzling

assaulted repeatedly by a man with dementia in his 80s obviously no inhibitions anymore , obviously not his fault but upsetting, i told my supervisor who found it hilarious

Yes that sounds like the culture where I worked.

what was the bright green DC a symptom of do you think?

Well my first thought was STI and that does seem to be borne out by googling it later. I guess there are other possibilities though. I certainly hope so. I think the combination of that, and the other conditions I mentioned means it was pretty likely though tbh.

staydazzling · 07/01/2019 14:50

God i hope not horrifying to think about, another issue ive come across is transferring men who hit 65, whove been in secure units and definitely not safe around vulnerable dementia patients in their 80s, but nevertheless, we had one, used to tell carers he was recording them, Hmm one day took another resident downstairs and assaulted them, and was arrested and taken away, should never have been there at all, Angry Between us all we could probably write a book Sad

chaoticgood · 07/01/2019 15:43

Between us all we could probably write a book

I only managed 6 months, just in the one place and then I retreated into the much milder world of computer programming! Well it has its own dudebro issues but nothing, absolutely nothing like the emotional exhaustion I had at that place, it was a constant not-enough-of everything, not enough skill, not enough help, not enough time, not enough room to seat people the proper distance away or hoist them about without hitting the furniture ... I dread to think if it has improved or not... this was before "austerity"!

Hats off to everyone who does this job - I have so much respect for you all it's really unbelievable.

staydazzling · 07/01/2019 15:58

you got out then! 😂 ive done roughly 5 years pro care , young carer all my childhood from 2014 onwards its bleak, very bleak. Sad

joanmcc · 07/01/2019 18:08

Meanwhile on an MRA forum somewhere, a nasty action by a woman is posted and they're all piling on to say how horrible that makes all women.

The Yin to your Yang.

AssassinatedBeauty · 07/01/2019 18:49

What are you on about @joanmcc?

Melanippe · 08/01/2019 16:52

Joan, I do hope the cookies taste good.

misscockerspaniel · 08/01/2019 19:36

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46800188

The BBC are now reporting on this horrific case. Apparently, the CEO has resigned and there has been an immediate change of policy. A man must be accompanied by a woman if entering a female's room.

Italiangreyhound · 08/01/2019 20:10

Once they get the DNA of the baby and all the possible suspects they can put the fucker behind bars where he belongs.

Popchyk · 23/01/2019 18:25

Male nurse arrested. Nathan Sutherland, 36, who worked at the facility.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46978297

Hands up who's expecting the "I genuinely thought she consented" defence?

lilraven · 23/01/2019 18:30

Why has he been charged with sexual assault and not rape?

HamiltonCork · 23/01/2019 18:32

I hope they throw the book at him.

Will be interesting to see what pathetic excuse he comes up with.