Mounjaro / Wegovy with > 5st / 30kg to lose: Thread 3

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Thread 3!

Anyone using weight-loss injections to lose more than 5 stone / 30 kg is very welcome to come and chat in this supportive space.

Gave it a go and can see it calculates the same BMI number, but it has different categories - instead of NHS normal, overweight and obese class I,II,III it has one less band and all bands get wider and higher as we age. Essentially saying we weigh more as we get older.

For someone in their early twenties it matches the NHS categories (I've added as boxes) with low = normal, moderate = overweight, high = obese and very high = extremely obese.

My BMI is around 36, I am in size 20 jeans and size 22-24 tops. This SBMI has me as moderate = overweight, NHS BMI has me as severely obese (Class II).

Must admit I feel more than just "overweight" for now, but it has given me pause for thought about what is realistic for a "healthy" (S)BMI for me. NHS has it at BMI 25 - 12st 6lbs (I am 5'10") as the top of the range which is another 5st to lose. Maybe that is actually going to be unrealistic. Time will tell, once I get closer! Thanks for sharing.

I did my first jab yesterday. I don't know if it's just placebo but I definitely feel different today to how I usually am. I didn't feel compelled to overeat and I haven't even snacked. I just had sensible meals and then just stopped. It's eerie.

Do you think this is how normal people feel all the time?

Snap! My very first jab was on Friday as well and I feel the same! I said to my DH it's amazing that some people are just naturally unfazed by food... and that's how I feel. It's extraordinary and shows what a complete battle so many of us have faced in dieting where the focus is on what you eat. Glad to have found this thread, 7 stone to lose which felt insurmountable... now I have some hope

Yes, I think it is. I’ve spoken to my mum about this - she’s been a size 8-10 her whole life. I always assumed that people like her had an iron will to be able to resist the constant hunger, cravings, and food noise and that I was just weak by comparison. But since I’ve been on MJ I’ve spoken to her about the amazing effects it’s had, how I feel free, don’t think about food non-stop, and feel like the decision over what to eat and how much to eat is finally in my hands. It’s become clear that she has absolutely no idea what I’m on about. She’s never had these feelings. She’s not “stronger” around her diet than I am - it’s just always been this easy for her. My husband’s the same - he is a little bit overweight (mostly due to a few too many beers and not being very active in middle age) but he doesn’t have the struggles I do. He can easily “forget to eat” all day, he never really snacks, he stops eating when he’s had enough, and outside of mealtimes he just doesn’t really think about food. He’s very supportive of me using MJ but he doesn’t really “get” it - because for him it’s as easy as just choosing to eat less. When I described food noise to him he gave me a very blank look and said “yeah that’s definitely not normal”.

@Fuffedoff I love a gadget... which Bluetooth measuring tape did you get?

I'm jumping in here from the mid July starters thread. Some in there are getting towards goal weight and I've a way to go
SW16st8
CW 14st3 (29 lbs down)
GW 10st7

Aiming for 13st0 by Christmas 🎄

Sorry clearly can't count am 33lbs down and that's in 14 weeks.

Hey all.... I have been lurking for some time but wondered if i could join you all please?? !
I started Mounjaro on 9th August 2024, 10 weeks ago, and I can honestly say that with 9 stone to lose, this has possibly been the best decision of my life, to take the plunge and step into an unfamiliar territory to what my body would adjust to maybe... Through medication, life circumstances, toxic relationships, numerous stress factors and menopause to name but a few, I managed to put on several stone throughout my 40's (even though I had never been that slim to begin with!) but it crept on and on over the years and emotionally eating was what I and my body was used to... I could not control the overeating and the more carbs and sugar I had, the more I wanted and craved it... I am sure there are a lot of people out there that can relate - I felt comfort from food; healthier choices didn't interest me in the slightest and would rather go without if the only option was fruit and veg for example!

I am amazed at how much this drug has shifted my desire for that kind of food... I don't know about anyone else but I now fancy all of the things that I used to avoid! I eat cleanly, incorporating more veggies and fruit into my diet, I enjoy making omelettes with fresh chicken and spinach, I eat Greek yoghurt with berries and granola and love preparing my fresh salads with beetroot, boiled egg and Katsu and Tandorri chicken bites for example; love my scrambled eggs on multiseed toast and have some protein wraps that I fill with fajita strips and chunky slaw ..... I do not feel deprived - but then again I rarely fancy the kind of food types that I did before - but my mindset is that nothing is off limits on this journey; its about moderation (which I totally lacked before...) Before Mounjaro, I wouldn't have been happy with just one toasted sandwich ... I would go back and make possibly another 2 and then have chips on the side with it ... I wouldn't be happy with one slice of pizza - i would eat the whole 12" to myself, plus chips! And my Coke Zero .... well, I would nearly get through 2 litres every single day - I never drank water and would have around 6 to 7 cups of coffee every day too....

So on 9th August 2024 I started at 123kg, or 271lb.. or 19 st 5lb..

Today, I weigh 105kg, 232 lb, 16 st 8lb..
SW: 123kg
CW: 105kg
GW: 70Kg
My first mini goal is to get under 100kg, and would love to lose another stone by Christmas Day (but I am not putting any pressure on that)
Losses: 6, 3, 1, 3, 5, 3, 4, 5, 2, 5,
I have rotated my injections in the abdomen each time.

4 x 2.5mg; 6 x 5mg; 1 x 7.5mg
I am also starting to love swimming again - I go each week around 3 or 4 times, and I also started doing Aqua classes twice a week which I am thoroughly enjoying... I do think that keeping hydrated is helping with the losses and personally I am trying to drink at least 2 litres of water each day alongside 1 x cup of coffee first thing in the morning, and then throughout the day i try and have at least 3 green tea's or peppermint. I try and not eat after 5.30pm and try to get a good night sleep but maybe others can relate to this - what the heck are all these Mounjaro dreams about???!! Seriously.... it happens nearly every single night !!!

Side effects: CONSTIPATION !! Throughout 2.5 and 5 it was really bad; I was trying everything but I think it was week 8 that i had a breakthrough by incorporating more green tea and prunes and it seemed to work better - since my step up onto 7.5mg my bowels have been nice and regular ! I do feel slightly more dizziness on 7.5 but i titrated up as I was definitely ready as the food noise and the cravings were horrific again all week on the 5 after the first month.. I wish to stay on the 7.5 as long as I can to be honest as I do feel the best I have felt in terms of mood, bowel habits, cravings, food noise etc so far and I have more motivation and energy on this dose too...

Its so lovely to read all of your stories and the struggles that we all face with food.. Its also brilliant that we can all support each other on here, when having so much to lose feels like a mammoth task, and to know that we can get advice and some willpower to carry on if we plateau / stall / gain means the world to me ...

Anyway, sorry for such a long post (but my first ever one on Mumsnet) and i had to pluck up the courage to do it and wanted to give a bit of back story!...

Love to all of you xxx

Welcome @Bibulous and @PatchworkSilver

This is the famous "food noise" disappearing. It happened to me overnight too and the silence was amazing. 17 weeks later and still on lower dose of 3.75mg it is still gone and the fridge is no longer calling out to me.

Appetite suppression comes and goes over the week for me which I am good with, I don't want strong suppression as my body needs nourishment and I like being able to eat moderately at least some days!. but the food noise leaving has had the biggest effect of all, allowing me to stick to a weekly calorie deficit.

Hello all
I've been reading along for a while.
I belong here (with a shiny new username because despite my usual username being anonymous I'm still too ashamed to link it to how fat I am 🤦🏻‍♀️) & trying to order MJ but discovered med express need a signature for deliveries.
Do they all need signatures? Most of the time it would probably be fine but if we were all out I would much prefer them to deliver to our safe place!

Finding the deciding where to order from a ridiculously high barrier to starting.... I had decided oushk but they want a video chat & I can't just bear to do that, med express need signatures...

I don't want to pay over the odds but equally do t really want to play the referral game.

Apologies for the waffle!

@Arglefraster apparently, Oushk rarely actually follow up on the video call! They only do so if they need more information.

I think most places do signed for delivery which I agree is a pain! I was with Voy originally (super expensive though!) who delivered by RM with no signature which I believe is the same RM service that Oushk offer.

Oh thank you so much, I think I could do it if they had extra questions it's just the thought of them doing a video so they could have a look at me I can't cope with.

(sorry for sounding loopy I have lost most of my hair to alopecia & really struggling with being looked at)

@Arglefraster oh I am so sorry! From everything I have read, it only happens if there are questions and often a phone call will be ok anyway. The people at Oushk come across as genuine humans who care about individuals so I am sure they wouldn't put you under pressure to do something that would make you so uncomfortable. Maybe phone/email them and explain what you are worried about as they seem very approachable?

Disclaimer - I am not currently an Oushk customer, just an avid reader 😁

Thank you @IReallyNeedThisToWork I really appreciate your kindness

@Arglefraster welcome to the thread. You don't sound loopy in the slightest. Someone very close to me has struggled with alopecia since their teens - initially areata but more recently universalis. It is terribly distressing and I'm sorry that you have to deal with it .

I use Bolt and although they say they need a signature on delivery I am yet to be asked for one in six months. I am not sure if this is because I have a pragmatic postie, however. It's a good thing that there are barriers in place to ensure that potent medication can't be ordered by just anyone, but you do need to find a provider with barriers that work for you. If it helps, the packaging from Bolt is very discreet and you would never know what was inside if it needed to be taken in by a neighbour.

You can pick up from an Asda pharmacy rather than have it delivered, if that helps @Arglefraster. I think Boots also do the same, maybe some of the others too.

Welcome @Arglefraster

Oushk allow you to pick one of three delivery types - DPD/Royal Mail special delivery which both need a signature/pin code. Or Royal Mail tracked 24 which can leave in your safe space at your own risk. (I think I have the royal mail service names right, but I use DPD so check it out on their website). You can choose a delivery date which includes Saturdays if week days are difficult.

They currently have two promo codes until the end of the month - either "£10 off plus free delivery" (free delivery defaults to DPD but you can email as soon as you have ordered and ask them to change to royal mail) or "16% off" you'll be able to find the codes on their facebook page (we are not allowed to post codes in here).

Medexpress will also leave where you tell them to without a signature, again at your own risk. And I think they're the cheapest for the first pen. Also, I think you can send them a photo without your face, and clothed (though I went for massive granny pants and a furious scowl, and it arrived about 2 days later - I like to imagine them being so appalled that they just scrambled to send it off to me).

Even if I don't lose a single kilo, just getting rid of the constant thoughts about what I can eat next is life-changing in itself. It's spooky.

They also price match!

They were Renpho Bluetooth measuring tape ones and were approx £27ish. However I see they are £23.50 today and maybe another deal if you do something on Amazon.

I'm impressed so far.

@Changinghabits1973 thank you for sharing I’m on week 7 and lost 21lb this week constipation has got me I will try the green tea and prunes thanks for the tip. Goodluck on your journey

I order from Medexpress and it is sent via Royal Mail for me - I am in the Scottish Highlands, if that is at all relevant. No signature has been required.

My first pen came warm but it was delivered over an unusually warm bank holiday end of August, so just a timing issue and nothing to do with the supplier. I had no idea a warm pen was an issue. Bunged it in the fridge (it was a week or two before I got going with it) and lost 14 pounds in 4 weeks, so must have been fine.

The pic is easy and you can take a picture in the mirror and hold your phone up to cover your hair. So sorry you are suffering with this.

Just get going with it, and I promise you will never look back. Welcome to this awesome losers thread. Best of luck

Argh!! I went on to 3.5mg on Friday. Yesterday suppression was great, today I'm hungry again 😫😫
WTF is going on?? I don't think it's working for me! The 2.5mg suppression was good for 2 weeks but then I just feel like I've been on a really restrictive diet, and I'm losing the motivation. I've lost a stone and a half in 6 weeks, which is great but I'm finding it hard!

You've lost 1.5 stone in 6 weeks. That's amazing so just remember that. Weight loss was never going to be easy. MJ might make it easier but it was never going to be easy. Thousands of people would be thrilled to death with a 1.5stone weight loss in 6 weeks.

@alwaysscared I find if I don't/can't eat many calories I feel hungry the day, but when I do eat I am full quicker. Then suppression kicks in again the next day because I have eaten the day before.