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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Janiie · 27/07/2024 09:40

stronglatte · 27/07/2024 08:10

He will always be moulded by what happened - that's what childhood trauma does. He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

Being away from the vitriol? He is the vitriol.

He should be in a better pace but we all know he wants and needs to be a vip Prince embraced and coddled by the rf. He thought his oversharing and reality shows would have led to the rf rushing fo make amends but they didn't. He fucked up and now has yet another chip on his shoulder to deal with.

Poor Harold. I hope one day he admits that his oversharimg, disloyalty and betrayal is what caused the rift not his 'fight' with the media which William had already been part of years ago.

MummyJ12 · 27/07/2024 09:41

But what Harry really, really wants is to stop the comments altogether. Perhaps he hoped that the anti-Kate venom stirred up by Bouzy and the Sussex Squad would convince the RF to join forces with him and shut down things like the Mail Online's comments once and for all (possibly the ultimate aim in his war on free speech). But the powers that be are well aware of the links between H and M, their agencies and supporters, and some of the worst of the anti-Kate bile - one of the many reasons why the hoped-for reunion with William and Kate is dead in the water.

I think this is a very interesting theory and probably not far off @popthepopcorns.

honestyISkind · 27/07/2024 09:41

When he dressed as a nazi, spurred his horse till it was gashed and bleeding, got pished falling in pools and partying hard for years and was called bunker Harry for playing on his playstation while real soldiers protected him I knew he was a wanker. Always saw through him.

His incessant whining, massive ego and huge sense of entitlement were successfully hidden for years by his family.

He believed his own press. The reality is if he wasn't born to royalty he'd be working a till, if he could manage to concentrate long enough and be polite.

Has been Hazza is average and below average in every possible way.

Added to which he's a nasty little gossip merchant who you could absolutely never trust not to gossip about you, used his gran's personal pet name against her wishes, was a rude little oik to her when elderly and frail, and told a shit ton of lies to Oprah and anyone who'd listen then published a book where, among other revelations he snivelled that Willy broke his necklace and pushed him into the dog bowl.

Pathetic little wanker.

And for the love of GOD don't pretend you don't know what Ginge and Whinge lied about. Passports, mental health, racism and more.

He's an ungrateful backstabbing scab, best to be avoided. And so they're avoiding him.

Vespanest · 27/07/2024 10:05

Harry likes press but just positive press, they are spending a small fortune on positive press and yes Bouzy is a prime example, Meghan hired Bouzy by Bouzy own words. As long as it’s positive towards them then the character of the person is irrelevant. Bouzy is negative to William and Kate but for Harry that’s okay because freedom of expression is all good as long as it’s positive for him. Just like Scobie and just like Harry, he can discuss William’s foreskin but should someone expose anything about him then it’s hateful. Harry hates the media, Harry is the media

ToofHurty · 27/07/2024 10:08

He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

For someone supposedly in a better place he looks fucking miserable.

He’s angry, aimless and entitled. That shows in his face, and in the vitriol or word salad he comes out with at any and every public appearance, interview or paid for award ceremony he attends.

coolmum123 · 27/07/2024 10:11

stronglatte · 26/07/2024 23:36

Harry's mum was hounded to death, his wife hounded out of the country . We all watched him walk behind his mum's coffin - he should not have been made to do that. He's still that young boy hurting and we should give him some leeway for that .

Seems like he was given leeway and that's why he is where he is today. No self awareness and sense of entitlement beyond his skills and abilities.

Mylovelygreendress · 27/07/2024 10:20

@Prawncow
There is absolutely no evidence that Diana was hacked .

Twistybranch · 27/07/2024 10:30

I honestly think that in the coming years, because they are based in the US, stories will start to seep out about their behaviour over there. Nothing to do with the UK or UK press. There’s only so long you can get away with it…..look at Ellen, look at JLO …..

Also, a couple that talks frequently about the importance of diversity and supporting minorities- their staff seems very white. Harry’s in particular- white, male, british. I feel that’s a potential scandal in the making

MummyJ12 · 27/07/2024 10:33

stronglatte · 27/07/2024 08:10

He will always be moulded by what happened - that's what childhood trauma does. He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

And what about William who has not only the same childhood trauma, but has also had to deal with so much hate and vitriol from his brother and supporters of his brother, aimed at both him, his very poorly wife and even his children. Vitriolic rhetoric and conspiracy theories that spread throughout the world.

Harry is now living in a country where the online criticism and negative media coverage is just as bad if not worse than over here in the U.K. so he hasn’t moved away from anything.

MummyJ12 · 27/07/2024 11:06

Interesting that on the Telegraph podcast, The Daily T, Camilla Tominey said that as a journalist she would not have been allowed by the legal department, to write an article that was as intrusive as Harry was in Spare. Says it all really.

Nosummerontheagenda · 27/07/2024 11:14

ToofHurty · 27/07/2024 10:08

He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

For someone supposedly in a better place he looks fucking miserable.

He’s angry, aimless and entitled. That shows in his face, and in the vitriol or word salad he comes out with at any and every public appearance, interview or paid for award ceremony he attends.

Agree

JSMill · 27/07/2024 11:43

MummyJ12 · 27/07/2024 11:06

Interesting that on the Telegraph podcast, The Daily T, Camilla Tominey said that as a journalist she would not have been allowed by the legal department, to write an article that was as intrusive as Harry was in Spare. Says it all really.

Yes I thought that was very interesting too. I am sure H's publishers were positive the RF wouldn't pursue legal action against anything libellous.

MummyJ12 · 27/07/2024 11:50

JSMill · 27/07/2024 11:43

Yes I thought that was very interesting too. I am sure H's publishers were positive the RF wouldn't pursue legal action against anything libellous.

I agree. Harry has completely taken advantage of the fact that his family have no right of reply as well as knowing that they wouldn’t take legal action. It’s really sickening.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/07/2024 12:09

I honestly think that in the coming years, because they are based in the US, stories will start to seep out about their behaviour over there

If they do, then good luck to Harry trying to shut it down in light of the First Amendment

I'm aware he's already shared his views on this bit of the Bill of Rights - as if Americans would care what some foreign prince thinks - but as ever he'd do well to remember he doesn't have the clout he and his family enjoyed back home

BruFord · 27/07/2024 14:33

ILikeDinosaurs · 27/07/2024 08:35

If he’s genuinely afraid for their safety in the UK, surely they could make a quiet, under-the-radar visit to see KC

No, of course he can't.

@ILikeDinosaurs Serious question- is it truly impossible for famous people to travel under the radar? I’ve always assumed that they probably could, but I don’t know. I’ve never been in a VIP lounge.😂

CoffeeCantata · 27/07/2024 14:45

He's so protective of his little family. Good man.

But not his wider family.

'Little family.' 🙄..

CoffeeCantata · 27/07/2024 14:49

BruFord
As others have said, William and Kate won’t ever trust him again, with good reason. KC will want to see his son, but even he’ll be careful around him.
I would imagine that KC has been advised not to see Harry alone - and he'd be wise to have lawyers, or at least senior courtiers, present as witnesses and to be very guarded about what he says.

And it's not just within the family that Harry cannot be trusted ever again. There's no way he can ever be allowed to take on an official royal role for diplomatic and security reasons. I'm sure the RF are trained and brought up to keep their mouths firmly shut about conversations with British and foreign politicians, heads of state and diplomats. It's crucial to the role, and Harry has shown he cannot be trusted.

CoffeeCantata · 27/07/2024 14:53

Nosummerontheagenda · 27/07/2024 11:14

Agree

And so do I.

I don't think Harry looks like a man who's found either freedom or happiness. I think he's angrier than every, miserable, lost, paranoid and very much missing his old friends and old life.

I'm sure he loves his children, but I bet in the small hours of the night he wishes they could meet their cousins, aunts, uncles and other relations and have nice holidays in castles in Britain. And I wonder if he ever feels resentful of Doria - the only relation either he or Meghan seem to have any contact with?

elessar · 27/07/2024 14:56

@BruFord of course it's totally possible. The only reason that the media have known Harry's travel plans visiting the UK is because his PR people have announced it. He doesn't want to arrive quietly with no fuss, because that wouldn't play into his narrative that it's unsafe for him and his family here.

There have been occasions where he and Meghan have travelled and nobody has had a clue until it's been announced afterwards - for example when Meghan was in LHR meeting Harry on the way to Nigeria, and previously when they've been abroad on holiday.

Rich and famous people travel all the time inconspicuously, including royalty. If Harry was that worried about safety then he would not live a life in the public eye or announce his travel plans to the world.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/07/2024 14:59

@BruFord think about the times when the media have announced that Harry's back in the UK with nothing said before about him coming, the justified secrecy over where they went on honeymoon, etc, and you'll quickly see that it's entirely possible for him to travel unannounced

Whether he actually wants that anonymity at any given time is something else again though; after all it's harder to claim that someone offended him (or whatever) if nobody knew he was with them in the first place

BruFord · 27/07/2024 15:32

@CoffeeCantata I suspect that he didn’t realize how expensive maintaining a lavish lifestyle in an expensive state like California is when you have to pay for it yourself, Many of the celebrities he’s known over the years-Elton John, the Clooney’s, the Williams’ sisters —have worked extremely hard to get to where they are and of course, they have discernible talents. Most ordinary people can’t generate $$$$$$$.

High earners also pay a lot of tax so with Spare, for example, after paying the ghostwriter, publishers, etc., he’ll have walked away with about half of what was left.

Real life isn’t easy, I’m afraid, and support from family and friends is important for many of us.

Nosummerontheagenda · 27/07/2024 15:44

CoffeeCantata · 27/07/2024 14:53

And so do I.

I don't think Harry looks like a man who's found either freedom or happiness. I think he's angrier than every, miserable, lost, paranoid and very much missing his old friends and old life.

I'm sure he loves his children, but I bet in the small hours of the night he wishes they could meet their cousins, aunts, uncles and other relations and have nice holidays in castles in Britain. And I wonder if he ever feels resentful of Doria - the only relation either he or Meghan seem to have any contact with?

I think Doria lives with them now too, which can’t be easy.

BreadInCaptivity · 27/07/2024 17:08

Harry's concerns about his family's security are all self generated.

He left the UK and the Met Security provided to them behind.

He assumed that would funded in Canada and the US. He was so concerned for their welfare that it didn't occur to him to check such an important piece of information.

He then moved to a country renowned for gun crime, tours a country the FO have issued notice against visiting and still has the gall to say they are unsafe in the UK (where it has been made clear, he will be given free appropriate levels of Met protection providing he gives a two week notice).

As ever with H&M their narrative shouldn't be taken at face value because all it ever is, is a smoke screen to hide/deflect from their real agenda.

M won't step foot in the UK and H does only rarely because they know how unpopular they are having pissed the huge levels of support they had from the public at the start of their relationship and marriage against a wall. They don't want the optics of a poor reception.

Same as they had to leave because of the press and my family was mean. No. They left because they were told they couldn't pick and choose the best bits of being royal and ditch the rest. That royal status didn't come with a free grift pass where you get to do ££££ side hustles.

Why anyone has anything to do with either of them is beyond me.

They've overplayed a weak hand and just look desperate, foolish and incapable to the point of not even being able to stick a label on a jam jar.

Runnerinthenight · 27/07/2024 18:57

ILikeDinosaurs · 26/07/2024 22:59

I'm thinking more of the Far right variety, you know, the British radicalised nutjobs.

There's "radicalised nutjobs" everywhere!!

Runnerinthenight · 27/07/2024 19:00

stronglatte · 26/07/2024 23:36

Harry's mum was hounded to death, his wife hounded out of the country . We all watched him walk behind his mum's coffin - he should not have been made to do that. He's still that young boy hurting and we should give him some leeway for that .

Screw that - he's a grown man who's had tonnes of therapy, and his wife was NOT "hounded out of the country"1 Catch a grip! He's not forever 12.

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