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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/07/2024 17:17

I'd just like one interview with Harry when the interviewer has some sort of backbone

So would I, @Vespanest, but I wouldn't hold your breath
Such interviewers aren't fashionable at the moment, and even if they were I wouldn't rate the chances of one of them getting anywhere near Harry - not with his almost manic obsession with how he's reported on

On Invictus I neither know nor care if he'll bring Meghan, though I'll care if she comes and does something to draw the focus from the veterans. That said, it might be wise not to give too much weight to the latest version of what Harry says he's going to do; we've heard it all before and it counts for little

Runnerinthenight · 26/07/2024 22:01

ILikeDinosaurs · 26/07/2024 15:16

"It's still dangerous, and all it takes is one lone actor, one person who reads this stuff to act on what they have read," Harry said. "And whether it's a knife or acid, whatever it is, and these are things that are of genuine concern for me. It's one of the reasons why I won’t bring my wife back to this country."

He's right, there are a lot of radicalised nutjobs still out for Harry and esp Meghan. I love Harry. He's so protective of his little family. Good man.

😂😂😂

So, that's why he revealed his Taliban kill then???

LaMarschallin · 26/07/2024 22:47

He's so protective of his little family.

This family - how little are they?
I mean...are they like scary little?

ILikeDinosaurs · 26/07/2024 22:59

Runnerinthenight · 26/07/2024 22:01

😂😂😂

So, that's why he revealed his Taliban kill then???

I'm thinking more of the Far right variety, you know, the British radicalised nutjobs.

elessar · 26/07/2024 23:18

It's so beyond ridiculous that Harry says he won't bring his family to the UK because of the threat level whipped up by the evil "British media". It literally makes no sense.

The American media are no less critical of them (certainly these days) and they live in a country where people can pick up a semi automatic weapon at the local shop and there are more than 600 mass shootings every year. To say it's more dangerous in the U.K. is just a joke.

And then anyway, if you were that worried, the last thing you'd do is increase your threat level by talking about your taliban kill count, or constantly putting yourself in the public eye dishing dirty laundry on your family or accepting high profile awards.

I really do wish someone would call him out on this nonsense, but there's no chance he'd ever agree to an interview without pre approved questions.

BruFord · 26/07/2024 23:24

ILikeDinosaurs · 26/07/2024 22:59

I'm thinking more of the Far right variety, you know, the British radicalised nutjobs.

If he’s genuinely afraid for their safety in the UK, surely they could make a quiet, under-the-radar visit to see KC. Celebrities must often travel all over the world without people knowing?

Or wait a few more years until he’s completely lost his hair and then no one will recognize him-I know that’s mean, but didn’t he tease his brother about hair loss?!

Vespanest · 26/07/2024 23:27

Any conversation about how the victims of illegal information gathering had been failed and the inadequate criminal investigation was lost by Harry. Not only was Meghan not apart of the hacking, to date other than the copyright he doesn’t seem to have any legal cases about the press and Meghan or the press raising their risk levels. He has the home office and the withdrawal of the mail security case. Harry used the media attention not for hacking but for his own gains and his appeal. Not only was talking about his family irrelevant, Meghan is not part of this case it was Chelsy who was violated and the victim.

stronglatte · 26/07/2024 23:36

Harry's mum was hounded to death, his wife hounded out of the country . We all watched him walk behind his mum's coffin - he should not have been made to do that. He's still that young boy hurting and we should give him some leeway for that .

Gorgonemilezola · 27/07/2024 00:07

Not when his purpose in life is slagging off his family, no. And his wife wasn't hounded out of anywhere. The time line suggests they never intended staying in the UK.

TinklySnail · 27/07/2024 00:42

stronglatte · 26/07/2024 23:36

Harry's mum was hounded to death, his wife hounded out of the country . We all watched him walk behind his mum's coffin - he should not have been made to do that. He's still that young boy hurting and we should give him some leeway for that .

Meghan was not hounded out of the country. Harry is nearly 40 so not a child and his brother lost his mother too.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/07/2024 01:42

stronglatte · 26/07/2024 23:36

Harry's mum was hounded to death, his wife hounded out of the country . We all watched him walk behind his mum's coffin - he should not have been made to do that. He's still that young boy hurting and we should give him some leeway for that .

How long is he going to still be that “young boy” 45? 50, 60?. People need to stop infantilising Harry it’s ridiculous, though granted he does behave like a spoilt little child.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 27/07/2024 06:37

stronglatte · 26/07/2024 23:36

Harry's mum was hounded to death, his wife hounded out of the country . We all watched him walk behind his mum's coffin - he should not have been made to do that. He's still that young boy hurting and we should give him some leeway for that .

And what about his brother? He was a young boy also. Or is it only Harry that counts. He’s a grown man. He just needs to act it.

stronglatte · 27/07/2024 08:10

He will always be moulded by what happened - that's what childhood trauma does. He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

ILikeDinosaurs · 27/07/2024 08:35

If he’s genuinely afraid for their safety in the UK, surely they could make a quiet, under-the-radar visit to see KC

No, of course he can't.

smilesy · 27/07/2024 08:39

stronglatte · 27/07/2024 08:10

He will always be moulded by what happened - that's what childhood trauma does. He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

We can choose to be a victim or not. Many people suffer even worse childhood trauma than Harry ( and I’m not belittling what happened to him) and don’t let it “mould” them. He has had therapy but he clearly chooses not to engage with it properly. We are all responsible for our own lives unless, as Harry has, we choose to abdicate that responsibility and allow circumstances to shoulder the blame for our behaviour

Vespanest · 27/07/2024 08:41

@stronglatte and his accountability, he simultaneously stated that the press in a central piece in the rift whilst continuing to give digs at his family knowing his supporters will jump on any opportunity to criticise. William had no part in the documentary and yet Harry used him and reiterated this team mentality. No praise for William though and his part in opening the can of worms that led to Leveson just implied digs of cowardice with him some sort of warrior. When he speaks about the royal family is the exact same thing he accuses the press of, supporting hate.

sausawyee · 27/07/2024 08:55

stronglatte · 27/07/2024 08:10

He will always be moulded by what happened - that's what childhood trauma does. He's obviously in a better place now and being away from all the vitriol and anonymous hare would do anyone the world of good.

He's not away though from it is he? He's always talking about it .

ILikeDinosaurs · 27/07/2024 09:06

smilesy · 27/07/2024 08:39

We can choose to be a victim or not. Many people suffer even worse childhood trauma than Harry ( and I’m not belittling what happened to him) and don’t let it “mould” them. He has had therapy but he clearly chooses not to engage with it properly. We are all responsible for our own lives unless, as Harry has, we choose to abdicate that responsibility and allow circumstances to shoulder the blame for our behaviour

You ARE belittling him though. Childhood trauma DOES mould people, it literally changes neural pathways in the brain. It's not for you to say how he should be responding to both his trauma and his therapy. For lots of people being the 'whistleblower' IS therapeutic, growing up with secrets and lies in a family harms people and can make them sick. That's what I see in Harry and that's why I can never hate him for doing that. His family are stuck in their ways, but will probably never change because they prefer to stay within the shell that cages protects them.

smilesy · 27/07/2024 09:22

ILikeDinosaurs · 27/07/2024 09:06

You ARE belittling him though. Childhood trauma DOES mould people, it literally changes neural pathways in the brain. It's not for you to say how he should be responding to both his trauma and his therapy. For lots of people being the 'whistleblower' IS therapeutic, growing up with secrets and lies in a family harms people and can make them sick. That's what I see in Harry and that's why I can never hate him for doing that. His family are stuck in their ways, but will probably never change because they prefer to stay within the shell that cages protects them.

I know how childhood trauma works and I agree that what Harry went through was traumatic. What I am saying is that if he has had therapy, which he has, then he has been shown ways in which he can deal with this and he has been less than successful imo. “Whistleblowing” on the press is one thing, but involving his family without their permission is another. Why is he the most important? What about their feelings and past traumas. Families have secrets, yes, but other members have valid feelings too and unless those secrets involve harm or abuse then it’s not up to Harry to publicly put his spin on things

eta I mean it’s up to the family to deal with it between themselves, not via televised interviews and I don’t hate Harry, I just find him exasperating

Vespanest · 27/07/2024 09:27

@ILikeDinosaurs whistleblowers have facts, not feelings “ the line between memory and fact is blurry”. Are false memories therapeutic to those that are incriminated.

smilesy · 27/07/2024 09:28

I also mean to say that I suspect Harry would have behaved in the same way without any childhood trauma, if he manages to hold
on to slights like having one less sausage

typo

Uricon2 · 27/07/2024 09:29

Didn't see much empathy for his slightly older brother while he was dealing with his wifes illness and then cancer diagnosis. Calling out Bouzy and the other Sussex squad attack dogs and disassociating themselves from them would have been a good olive branch.

Did it happen? Nah. I think on a level they might be a bit scared of the Squad, lest that venom be turned on them.

popthepopcorns · 27/07/2024 09:31

Harry is reportedly fixated on reading all the comments about Meghan and himself online, which can't be healthy because the feedback does tend to be overwhelmingly negative - irrespective of the market/site.

Someone pointed out that their Netflix program exposed an underlying determination to respond to every negative thing that is repeatedly said about them (and these things are generally said by the public, not the media itself, although the media often provides the forums so Harry tends to conflate the two).

In their simplicity and narcissism, Harry and Meghan seem unable to understand why the public refuses to admire them as much as they admire themselves: a racist media conspiracy is posited as the only acceptable explanation.

It's also notable that Harry and Meghan's new PR team has been doing various deals with news sources (like the Telegraph) to censor/block commentary on certain stories that his sources have cooperated with (a tactic very successfully pursued by the likes of the Beckhams) or to pin positive comments at the top.

But what Harry really, really wants is to stop the comments altogether. Perhaps he hoped that the anti-Kate venom stirred up by Bouzy and the Sussex Squad would convince the RF to join forces with him and shut down things like the Mail Online's comments once and for all (possibly the ultimate aim in his war on free speech). But the powers that be are well aware of the links between H and M, their agencies and supporters, and some of the worst of the anti-Kate bile - one of the many reasons why the hoped-for reunion with William and Kate is dead in the water.

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LuluBlakey1 · 27/07/2024 09:31

Prawncow · 25/07/2024 12:00

I’ll start by saying I’m not a fan of his.

If my mother had been hacked, manipulated and harassed by the media and their behaviour led to to car crash that killed her, I don’t think I would feel particularly positive towards them. If I’d then been forced by my father as a child to stand and pose for the same media at organised PR stunts, I don’t think I’d feel particularly positive towards the media of my father. If the same media started treating my wife in a way that echoed the way they treated my mother and my father’s response was to do nothing, I think that would cause a rift in the family.

You don’t have to like him or respect him to see that when it comes to the behaviour of the media he had a point.

He and his wife 'use' the media to promote themselves and attack the British Royal Family continually.

MummyJ12 · 27/07/2024 09:36

ILikeDinosaurs · 27/07/2024 08:35

If he’s genuinely afraid for their safety in the UK, surely they could make a quiet, under-the-radar visit to see KC

No, of course he can't.

No because he has to have a Netflix crew with him and then give an interview about any meeting with his family, to the US media within 24 hours to regale all details.

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