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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 12:54

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 12:36

Not a single tabloid was speculating about his penis. He shoved this detail into public life, just as his wife shoves the details about her life into public discourse through her humorous interviews; and in the next breath they complain that the public and journalists might actually want to follow up on, comment upon, and yes, criticise and give an opinion about what H&M are saying about themselves and what they themselves put out there in the first place. South Park had it absolutely spot on.

It’s laughable isn’t it that their fans on here expect no one to have opinions on the mountains of information from Harry and Meghan’s own mouths that they willingly put into the public domain for millions of dollars and expect us not to comment, unless of course it’s unquestionable worshipping at the feet of the Cult of Montecito, sorry no can do!

That should have been numerous interviews, not humorous! The one thing MM has never displayed for all to see is a sense of humour!

But yes, @BigWillyLittleTodger , they seem to think that what they choose to put out into the public domain should be last word, end of story. They and their fans seem absolutely shocked that their output should be questioned and (usually) found wanting in the truth and facts department.

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 12:54

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 12:49

I don’t think that people worthy of the name journalist should be reporting with a fixed view about anything. They should as far as possible be reporting legitimate facts not adding their spin or “interpretation” one way or another.

This can absolutely be said about the work of Omid Scobie.

Perhaps so! I haven’t read any of his books.

I do think there is a problem with general obsequiousness with journalists covering their own backs + social and career advancement + the establishment though.

I am interested in different viewpoints.

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:57

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 12:51

I’m pleased to read that as in my short time here I was beginning to think that is what it is…an echo chamber. 😳

I just think that there are less and less posters that are sympathetic if not supportive of the couple. Some of their behaviour just can’t be explained or defended possibly. I think debating is good though and I’m more than happy to be wrong or corrected. It would be really boring if we all had the same thing to say. 😊
My post re the FOI article is on page 26. 4/08. Just so you’re not having to hunt through the thread for it!

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 12:57

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:51

There are thoughts that many journalists know more than they are allowed to print, I wonder if they have formed a steadfast negative opinion because of this. They know more than we do? Although even sympathetic journalists (to H&M) such as Jack Royston, have printed less than positive articles recently.

Yes I am certain that many journalists know far more than they are allowed to print but doesn’t it also follow that that might be the case for both sides too, in relation to Buckingham Palace I mean?

Prince Andrew’s activities took a while to emerge didn’t they?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 13:00

Bingo! 🙋🏻‍♀️

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:00

Reasons they left:

Press intrusion, racism
Press lies
To protect their mental health
Old fashioned royal institution
Wanted to be away from the leaky royal offices
Wanted freedom to plough their own field

Given a year to see if they could survive, they did.

They have far more privacy now and we do not know who pops over to dinner with them, who they are messaging and talking with (other than not talking with the RF if sources are to be believed).

Monetised their own life experiences. Made a f*ck ton of money.
More in the pipeline.

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 13:01

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:57

I just think that there are less and less posters that are sympathetic if not supportive of the couple. Some of their behaviour just can’t be explained or defended possibly. I think debating is good though and I’m more than happy to be wrong or corrected. It would be really boring if we all had the same thing to say. 😊
My post re the FOI article is on page 26. 4/08. Just so you’re not having to hunt through the thread for it!

Thank you for the quote ref MummyJ12

and for saying that about debate. I agree that it’s good to be able to thrash out different opinions! 😀

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/08/2024 13:02

Not a single tabloid was speculating about his penis. He shoved this detail into public life

You could have left the "shoving" out of it, @Theinflictuswithrictusgames; wasn't the mental image bad enough as it stood? Shock Wink

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 13:02

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 13:00

Bingo! 🙋🏻‍♀️

Please grow up. It’s a legitimate point.

Of course it’s reasonable to assume that there are things to cover up on both sides.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:03

I think that online opinion in the UK on mumsnet here is definitely mostly negative now. Lots of posters who like them probably give up posting as when they say something they are often jumped on.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:04

Thanks @MummyJ12 . ☺️

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 13:06

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 13:02

Please grow up. It’s a legitimate point.

Of course it’s reasonable to assume that there are things to cover up on both sides.

I will post what I like thanks very much, your whataboutery is worthy of my comment, if you don’t like it scroll on by.

Rhaidimiddim · 09/08/2024 13:08

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 13:00

Bingo! 🙋🏻‍♀️

I'm still waiting for 'goady'.

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 13:08

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:03

I think that online opinion in the UK on mumsnet here is definitely mostly negative now. Lots of posters who like them probably give up posting as when they say something they are often jumped on.

I very much agree with this Rosiecheeksandacoldnose

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 13:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 13:06

I will post what I like thanks very much, your whataboutery is worthy of my comment, if you don’t like it scroll on by.

Thanks for the permission!

sausawyee · 09/08/2024 13:14

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:03

I think that online opinion in the UK on mumsnet here is definitely mostly negative now. Lots of posters who like them probably give up posting as when they say something they are often jumped on.

Oh you mean they are responded to in a way they don't like?

sausawyee · 09/08/2024 13:14

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/08/2024 13:02

Not a single tabloid was speculating about his penis. He shoved this detail into public life

You could have left the "shoving" out of it, @Theinflictuswithrictusgames; wasn't the mental image bad enough as it stood? Shock Wink

🤮

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 13:16

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:03

I think that online opinion in the UK on mumsnet here is definitely mostly negative now. Lots of posters who like them probably give up posting as when they say something they are often jumped on.

You mean when they say something patently incorrect/questionable/outright disgusting they are countered? That's a robust discussion for you. The ones you claim "gave up" were hardly delicate flowers. You'd know that if you had been posting on this board for any length of time. Just go back to the Catherine threads from March if you want to see what sort of discourse from the Sussex fans was being "jumped on".

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:20

I don’t see that as constituting evidence, regarding Meghan and Harry being responsible for all things said or done in the name of a fan base called SS @MummyJ12 . No doubt there are bat shit crazies in fan groups everywhere but in terms of their responding to charitable fundraisers I am not sure what exactly you think has been proven as wrong behaviour by Meghan and Harry? Considering how many persons of colour around the world are in SS and how many of these individuals raise money it can be lauded in some respects. It is not an official organisation as such, I believe. As with any sphere a few rotten apples will exist, and as these are revealed it is natural to distance from them.

I’ve noticed online that there is a fan base of the royal family who are also rabidly anti Meghan and Harry, who cook up wild conspiracy theories, demonise Meghan, libel Doria ad infinitum but I do not think all of the British Royal family’s followers are like them.

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 13:20

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 10:00

I am not seeking to argue. And this back and forth is worthy of the fifth form frankly,

I don’t understand the argument that, if the majority of the posters find the tabloid intrusion that Catherine and William have suffered to be hideous, which I agree it very much is, then why that doesn’t apply to the press intrusion Harry and Meghan have suffered too? It’s not logical!

No one should be supporting underhand journalistic methods wherever they are applied!

Lots of posters will say that Harry brought it on himself by publishing Spare but a lot of the nasty incidents happened way before Spare was even written and he said consistently that one of his aims in writing the book was to get everything out there, the good and the bad, so that tabloids had no need to pay off palace staff or use intrusive methods to gain information about him.

"Palace staff" will all have signed very strict NDA's. No way they are being 'paid off' by 'tabloids'. It would be very easy to identify them and they would lose their jobs and possibly face legal action.

Nobody other than Harry really cares about who may or may not have 'briefed' against whom years ago. It's old news and has been gone over a million times already. Harry and his fanz are stuck in the past.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:21

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 13:16

You mean when they say something patently incorrect/questionable/outright disgusting they are countered? That's a robust discussion for you. The ones you claim "gave up" were hardly delicate flowers. You'd know that if you had been posting on this board for any length of time. Just go back to the Catherine threads from March if you want to see what sort of discourse from the Sussex fans was being "jumped on".

I don’t need to travel far back my eyes can see what has been happening right now.

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 13:22

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:03

I think that online opinion in the UK on mumsnet here is definitely mostly negative now. Lots of posters who like them probably give up posting as when they say something they are often jumped on.

They gave up posting - or changed names, often multiple times - when they were caught out spreading lurid rumours about Kate. It didn't really fit in with their supposed 'anti-bullying' stance. Hence the mass exodus and name change marathon.

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 13:23

It was only about Harry planting stories and briefing the press @Rosiecheeksandacoldnose. Nothing more than that. The FOI requests proved that leaks were coming from them or their trusted team. My point was that it was a bit hypocritical of Harry to complain that others were doing the same (if in fact they were).

It definitely wasn’t about SS and I didn’t claim that it was.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 09/08/2024 13:26

Posted this on a different thread here, but if Harry has such a problem with the way the media behaves then why did he JUST give an interview to CBS which infamously in 2004 published pictures of Princess Diana dying of a catastrophic headwound in a car in Paris?

Pictures which CBS were accused of coming by nefariously.

Also not sure why Harry is blaming newspapers for a rift that he caused but then again he is not exactly notable for self awareness.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 13:26

IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 13:20

"Palace staff" will all have signed very strict NDA's. No way they are being 'paid off' by 'tabloids'. It would be very easy to identify them and they would lose their jobs and possibly face legal action.

Nobody other than Harry really cares about who may or may not have 'briefed' against whom years ago. It's old news and has been gone over a million times already. Harry and his fanz are stuck in the past.

Harry and his fans are stuck in the past. Harry and Meghan have moved on and so we keep up with them and enjoy the news about them. Going to Columbia, the shows in the pipeline, new charitable endeavours. We are here for it. Everything they do however is being judged by the anti posters who always want to rehash the past. I think it is clear who is stuck in the past and can’t let go.

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