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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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EmpressOfTheThread · 09/08/2024 10:23

You're right, @EdithWeston - it proves it's nonsense because the equerries have nothing to do with communication.
Omid Scobie should have done some basic research.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 10:38

Lots of posters will say that Harry brought it on himself by publishing Spare but a lot of the nasty incidents happened way before Spare was even written and he said consistently that one of his aims in writing the book was to get everything out there, the good and the bad, so that tabloids had no need to pay off palace staff or use intrusive methods to gain information about him.

What absolute rubbish. Harry put out his story about losing his virginity to put an end to the media trying to gain this information? Who was asking about this prior to Spare? Answer: nobody. How did that work out for the poor, hitherto unknown to the world at large, ordinary young woman involved who was forced to out herself? Who before Spare knew or cared about how Harry viewed the poor matron at his school, whom he decided to tell the world was greasy haired and bent backed? Who knew about petty bits of shite around sharing lipgloss? Who was asking him about his views on his brother's marriage and his sister in law's suitability as a royal wife? He published Spare to make money for himself in the most basic and venal way he knew how because that's all he's got and that's all he is as a person.

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 10:47

EdithWeston · 09/08/2024 10:22

Which equerries have said that?

I thought this line originated from Scobie (various bits of commentary and in Endgame). I can't remember if it's in Spare as well.

(Genuine question, btw, wondering if I've missed something. Equerries would normally have nothing to do with the communications offices; completely different roles, so again wondering what I've missed)

Yes Scobie said he was told by a palace insider that “I’m not saying you need to pick a side, but you need to accept that there are sides in this.”

But the original stories emerged long before during the so-called War of the Wales

Sorry I made a mistake using the term equerry. I meant private secretary.

Patrick Jephson, who was the Diana’s private secretary for eight years , and was generally regarded as a decent person, claimed publically that sources close to the King orchestrated a 'systematic' smear campaign against his estranged wife, which made her life 'hell and he went on to say it was one of the nastiest aspects of their divorce.

So they do have form!

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 10:48

EmpressOfTheThread · 09/08/2024 10:23

You're right, @EdithWeston - it proves it's nonsense because the equerries have nothing to do with communication.
Omid Scobie should have done some basic research.

Yes I meant private secretaries not equerries sorry!

EmpressOfTheThread · 09/08/2024 10:52

Omid Scobie is hardly a reliable source of information. As if Private Secretaries would talk to him. Unlikely

EmpressOfTheThread · 09/08/2024 10:54

"Patrick Jephson.... generally regarded as a decent person" no he wasn't.
This has nothing to do with Harry.

Twistybranch · 09/08/2024 11:39

For someone that proclaims not to be a H&M super fan…..the posts keep on’a coming

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 12:10

Twistybranch · 09/08/2024 11:39

For someone that proclaims not to be a H&M super fan…..the posts keep on’a coming

Again please don’t put words in to my mouth. I am not a “fan”. I have sympathy towards Harry and his situation. There’s a difference.

And yes I refuse to be harried off these threads. Thank you.

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:12

Lots of posters will say that Harry brought it on himself by publishing Spare but a lot of the nasty incidents happened way before Spare was even written and he said consistently that one of his aims in writing the book was to get everything out there, the good and the bad, so that tabloids had no need to pay off palace staff or use intrusive methods to gain information about him.

I could have happily lived my life not knowing about him putting 8 hour cream on his frost bitten todger! 😂
Like her or loathe her it’s fact that Camilla Tominey, stated recently that the legal team at the Telegraph would not have allowed them to print the majority of the information or ‘stories’ in Spare. It would be deemed too intrusive. Harry was therefore misguided in divulging as much as he did if this was his reasoning. It was especially poor form as well as hypocritical that he breached other people’s privacy to such an extent.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 12:19

Here is the clip of what Camilla has Tominey said.

https://youtube.com/shorts/lHBHU-XQerw?si=e7l-W7Y9NJUnZ4fg

This is exactly why these threads exist because of Harry and Meghan’s actions.

Before you continue to YouTube

https://youtube.com/shorts/lHBHU-XQerw?si=e7l-W7Y9NJUnZ4fg

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:20

I believe Harry when he said he was briefed against from within as someone is bound to bear the fall out simply from that set up alone.

He may very well be telling the truth @Applecidervinegar641. Although, he has been again hypocritical as he and his team have planted stories in the press about his family. He is no better. (There was an FOI request that confirmed this).

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:20

Thanks @BigWillyLittleTodger. 😊

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 12:24

You’re welcome @MummyJ12 😊

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 12:24

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:12

Lots of posters will say that Harry brought it on himself by publishing Spare but a lot of the nasty incidents happened way before Spare was even written and he said consistently that one of his aims in writing the book was to get everything out there, the good and the bad, so that tabloids had no need to pay off palace staff or use intrusive methods to gain information about him.

I could have happily lived my life not knowing about him putting 8 hour cream on his frost bitten todger! 😂
Like her or loathe her it’s fact that Camilla Tominey, stated recently that the legal team at the Telegraph would not have allowed them to print the majority of the information or ‘stories’ in Spare. It would be deemed too intrusive. Harry was therefore misguided in divulging as much as he did if this was his reasoning. It was especially poor form as well as hypocritical that he breached other people’s privacy to such an extent.

Not a single tabloid was speculating about his penis. He shoved this detail into public life, just as his wife shoves the details about her life into public discourse through her humorous interviews; and in the next breath they complain that the public and journalists might actually want to follow up on, comment upon, and yes, criticise and give an opinion about what H&M are saying about themselves and what they themselves put out there in the first place. South Park had it absolutely spot on.

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MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:29

They really did @Theinflictuswithrictusgames! Especially now with the Worldwide Privacy Tour! 😂 so clever.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 12:29

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 10:47

Yes Scobie said he was told by a palace insider that “I’m not saying you need to pick a side, but you need to accept that there are sides in this.”

But the original stories emerged long before during the so-called War of the Wales

Sorry I made a mistake using the term equerry. I meant private secretary.

Patrick Jephson, who was the Diana’s private secretary for eight years , and was generally regarded as a decent person, claimed publically that sources close to the King orchestrated a 'systematic' smear campaign against his estranged wife, which made her life 'hell and he went on to say it was one of the nastiest aspects of their divorce.

So they do have form!

They do have form. Harry and William were well aware of the leaking of stories from both of their parents and said they would never do this. Harry went on record with his interview and book and William has spoken via sources.

Scobie was on the royal rota for 10 years. His Endgame book was very enjoyable.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 12:31

The royal worldwide privacy tour was a very funny parody. I enjoyed it. My daughter lives in America and I visit her often, we both still like Meghan and Harry.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 09/08/2024 12:36

Not a single tabloid was speculating about his penis. He shoved this detail into public life, just as his wife shoves the details about her life into public discourse through her humorous interviews; and in the next breath they complain that the public and journalists might actually want to follow up on, comment upon, and yes, criticise and give an opinion about what H&M are saying about themselves and what they themselves put out there in the first place. South Park had it absolutely spot on.

It’s laughable isn’t it that their fans on here expect no one to have opinions on the mountains of information from Harry and Meghan’s own mouths that they willingly put into the public domain for millions of dollars and expect us not to comment, unless of course it’s unquestionable worshipping at the feet of the Cult of Montecito, sorry no can do!

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 12:37

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:20

I believe Harry when he said he was briefed against from within as someone is bound to bear the fall out simply from that set up alone.

He may very well be telling the truth @Applecidervinegar641. Although, he has been again hypocritical as he and his team have planted stories in the press about his family. He is no better. (There was an FOI request that confirmed this).

Do you have an evidential link for the FOI?

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:39

I’ve already posted it on either this thread or possibly the interview thread @Rosiecheeksandacoldnose.

Applecidervinegar641 · 09/08/2024 12:40

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:12

Lots of posters will say that Harry brought it on himself by publishing Spare but a lot of the nasty incidents happened way before Spare was even written and he said consistently that one of his aims in writing the book was to get everything out there, the good and the bad, so that tabloids had no need to pay off palace staff or use intrusive methods to gain information about him.

I could have happily lived my life not knowing about him putting 8 hour cream on his frost bitten todger! 😂
Like her or loathe her it’s fact that Camilla Tominey, stated recently that the legal team at the Telegraph would not have allowed them to print the majority of the information or ‘stories’ in Spare. It would be deemed too intrusive. Harry was therefore misguided in divulging as much as he did if this was his reasoning. It was especially poor form as well as hypocritical that he breached other people’s privacy to such an extent.

There we can fully agree MummyJ12 😂😂

I can’t say I warm to Camilla Tominey. She seems to have an agenda against H & M and that is my point really about all of this.

I don’t think that people worthy of the name journalist should be reporting with a fixed view about anything. They should as far as possible be reporting legitimate facts not adding their spin or “interpretation” one way or another.

If everything she reports is unremittingly negative about H & M, can she be trusted?

I take your point about some of the things in Spare being unwise or distasteful to publish but at that point Harry stated that when he had tried to have private discussions with the Firm he kept finding that those discussions were leaked and he became terribly frustrated and went in to direct communication mode.

I agree with you that it wasn’t perhaps the best strategy but I can understand the frustrations that led to him doing it.

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:48

CT is definitely not impartial @Applecidervinegar641 I think you’re right there.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 09/08/2024 12:49

I don’t think that people worthy of the name journalist should be reporting with a fixed view about anything. They should as far as possible be reporting legitimate facts not adding their spin or “interpretation” one way or another.

This can absolutely be said about the work of Omid Scobie.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 12:51

MummyJ12 · 08/08/2024 19:55

I’m glad that MN isn’t an echo chamber and I respect that we have different opinions @Applecidervinegar641. I don’t think we’ll ever convince one another on this topic!

I’m pleased to read that as in my short time here I was beginning to think that is what it is…an echo chamber. 😳

MummyJ12 · 09/08/2024 12:51

There are thoughts that many journalists know more than they are allowed to print, I wonder if they have formed a steadfast negative opinion because of this. They know more than we do? Although even sympathetic journalists (to H&M) such as Jack Royston, have printed less than positive articles recently.

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