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Ngozi Fulani receives personal apology at Palace

224 replies

Inspecto · 16/12/2022 21:22

Lovely picture of them both too. Seems so rare to see a positive news story these days so this was good to see! Peace, reconciliation and understanding. 😊

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64005705

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Onceuponawhileago · 16/12/2022 22:54

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slideintomxas · 16/12/2022 21:30

I thought someone had raked up loads of dodgy stuff about the charity?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/13/palace-race-row-accuser-ngozi-fulanis-charity-draws-watchdogs/
and they are now under investigation…

This is so irrelevant though. Or is the implication is that if there's mismanagement at the charity it's somehow acceptable to be openly racist to its senior staff?!

Inspecto · 16/12/2022 22:55

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I agree that an investigation is normal procedure. But why do you think could BP not conduct an investigation when the uproar arose?

BP could have released a statement saying “we are concerned about these allegations and will be conducting an investigation”.

Instead Lady Susan Hussey resigned, which implied guilt.

And do you really think BP were capable of conducting a fair trial when Lady Susan Hussey is the next in line’s godmother? In fair trials there isn’t usually conflicts of interest.

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NewBootsAndRanty · 16/12/2022 22:56

"I don't think it has perhaps occurred to those at Sistah Space that I did indeed clock onto the fact it was pitch dark outside when they're having their little music jams with all the heaters around the room, enjoying food and relaxing."

Has he not heard of winter before?

Inspecto · 16/12/2022 22:57

NewBootsAndRanty · 16/12/2022 22:56

"I don't think it has perhaps occurred to those at Sistah Space that I did indeed clock onto the fact it was pitch dark outside when they're having their little music jams with all the heaters around the room, enjoying food and relaxing."

Has he not heard of winter before?

Is he describing a Christmas party?

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pizzaHeart · 16/12/2022 23:02

How is this a positive news story? It's a publicity exercise by BP.
this ^ 100%
what kind of response you expected from NF? She didn’t want to rock the boat obviously.
The idea that 83 y.o. person whose job was to communicate with people doesn’t understand that repeating question again and again is rude is just ridiculous. I’m not even go into what kind of question it was.

Children know that nonstop pestering for answers is rude. And Lady Hussey is not a child, far from it.

NewBootsAndRanty · 16/12/2022 23:04

Inspecto · 16/12/2022 22:57

Is he describing a Christmas party?

I think he might be on glue.

grannyjacob · 16/12/2022 23:04

I’m on Gransnet more than I’m on here, and the original incident of Lady SH’s behaviour towards NF didn’t half bring out the racists over there. Some absolutely appalling attitudes and comments. This will stir the shite pot again.

Inspecto · 16/12/2022 23:06

This James person has a Twitter blue tick. But I don’t know who he is? Do you?

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NewBootsAndRanty · 16/12/2022 23:08

You just buy blue ticks these days, don't you?

kirinm · 16/12/2022 23:12

Wow. There sure are a lot of racists following that Twitter guy.

NewBootsAndRanty · 16/12/2022 23:14

Now there's a shock..

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 16/12/2022 23:16

Unsurprisingly NF is not the only black woman he's taken a pop at on twitter

Mezmer · 16/12/2022 23:16

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 16/12/2022 22:46

If I go around saying that men are violent it doesn't make it okay for a man to attack me. NF saying that the royal family may be racist doesn't make it okay to make racist remarks to her.

It doesn't matter whether she wanted to prove the royal family were racist or not. All the royal family and their representatives had to do was not be racist.

And Lady S admitted what had happened. You don't get a trial if you plead guilty.

I’m not defending hussey, but rather her right to have told her dude before she was hung out to dry, quite possibly she was racist, but how will anyone ever know? She was ‘found’ guilty before she was ever asked for her ride of the story. Assumed to be guilty.

Racism is one thing and ‘guilty until proven otherwise’ is another.

you don’t want to be the victim of either

AdventuringAway · 16/12/2022 23:17

Twitter guy casts doubt on a domestic abuse charity because at one point there’s footage of women twerking. He doesn’t seem like a misogynist at all… There may be valid reasons to investigate the charity but 1) I hope he is kept far away from any investigation and 2) any investigation is irrelevant to the racism discussion.

AndEverWhoKnew · 16/12/2022 23:18

There's a lot of people from both sides infantilising NF. As an adult, who established a charity, she chose to attend BP on both occasions. Criticising her for attending or implying she couldn't say no to the public apology photo is patronising and racist.
It's a shame MN can't block by IP like Insta can. Then the racists on both sides could troll somewhere else.

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 16/12/2022 23:19

Mezmer · 16/12/2022 23:16

I’m not defending hussey, but rather her right to have told her dude before she was hung out to dry, quite possibly she was racist, but how will anyone ever know? She was ‘found’ guilty before she was ever asked for her ride of the story. Assumed to be guilty.

Racism is one thing and ‘guilty until proven otherwise’ is another.

you don’t want to be the victim of either

Well we know she said something racist because she admitted it

Is there a reason we don't believe her?

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 16/12/2022 23:20

AdventuringAway · 16/12/2022 23:17

Twitter guy casts doubt on a domestic abuse charity because at one point there’s footage of women twerking. He doesn’t seem like a misogynist at all… There may be valid reasons to investigate the charity but 1) I hope he is kept far away from any investigation and 2) any investigation is irrelevant to the racism discussion.

I think the lowest point in the thread is where he accuses a domestic violence charity of being responsible for the high rates of domestic violence in the area. Because black women are obviously responsible for domestic violence, not men.

musingsinmidlife · 16/12/2022 23:39

Here are the direct links to the twitter pages. The guy is pretty much just rambling as he looks into their documents and grants. It is his own opinion and nothing official but he is passing it on to be properly investigated as he saw what to him looks like fraud, nepotism, and lots of sketchy actions. If all is above board, then it is just the ramblings of a random man. If the commission finds what he thinks he has found, then he has identified a business that should be shut down.

Page 1: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1601735411860406274.html
Page 2: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1602659629393215488.html

Inspecto · 16/12/2022 23:52

Mezmer · 16/12/2022 23:16

I’m not defending hussey, but rather her right to have told her dude before she was hung out to dry, quite possibly she was racist, but how will anyone ever know? She was ‘found’ guilty before she was ever asked for her ride of the story. Assumed to be guilty.

Racism is one thing and ‘guilty until proven otherwise’ is another.

you don’t want to be the victim of either

But what were the mechanisms for a fair trial?

BP could not oversee a fair trial because she’s the next in line’s godmother. Conflict of interest.

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pelargoniums · 16/12/2022 23:56

That Twitter man does like the sound of his own ramblings, doesn’t he? Eight tweets before he even starts to approach getting to the point.

NewBootsAndRanty · 16/12/2022 23:57

"I honestly don't know how much a canal boat costs but I'm outraged about it anyway"

lollipoprainbow · 17/12/2022 00:06

Will she get her job back now ? Ever since Meghan BP are bending over backwards to prove they're racist.

musingsinmidlife · 17/12/2022 00:11

lollipoprainbow · 17/12/2022 00:06

Will she get her job back now ? Ever since Meghan BP are bending over backwards to prove they're racist.

She is 83. I doubt they will give her a job again but maybe some lesser role that she can continue to hold.

Nat6999 · 17/12/2022 00:24

I feel very uncomfortable with this, has she been leaned on to accept the apology?