Ngozi Fulani receives personal apology at Palace

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Lovely picture of them both too. Seems so rare to see a positive news story these days so this was good to see! Peace, reconciliation and understanding. 😊

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64005705

Grow up.

Why do I need to grow up? Is it childish to object to the racism that has been spewed on this thread? Is it childish to hope MNHQ does something about the posters doing the spewing?

It does of course apply to everyone. That’s why my post you quote says there should be an investigation but there is good evidence that something dodgy is going on from publicly available official documents.

Your post saying exactly that is further up the thread. If that’s genuinely news to you, you need to see a dr.

I think the key point of the statement was the recognition that no malice was intended. What was said and how it was interpreted are a matter for the parties involved. I think this has probably made people in general very much aware that they need to think more about how they phrase things or what they say for fear of accusation of racism.

I think sadly this whole episode will ultimately lead to people to be more wary and is not good for race relations as it makes people less likely to engage in conversation for fear of saying something wrong. This should not have become a public issue.

She isn’t African. As I have said. I don’t personally care what she wears but as I said (again) it’s a bit jarring to see someone play crude dress up. Reminds me a bit of Camilla Batmanheligh.

Because there isn’t racism - just people saying things you don’t agree with.

Also the issue I raised is that it is jarring to see her dress up a stereotype of someone else’s culture. That is certainly cultural appropriation.

There is no post from me saying that

So how many years/generations does someone have to live outside of a country before they are not allowed to wear clothes that reflect their heritage?

If her parents had lived there would that be play? Or her grandparents? What are the guild lines for when you are not longer allowed to acknowledge your heritage?

Do you maybe have some empthy for those whose ancestors were forcibly removed from their countries?

Do you really not understand why descendants of people impacted by the slave trade might feel a longing to understand their roots and what was stolen from their families.

I find it a bit jarring that someone says she shouldn't wear clothing that reflects her heritage because her ancestors homes and lives were stolen from them.

The point about cultural appropriation is interesting. I think wearing an item or having hair in a style of another culture is only appropriation if it is done a mocking or inappropriate manner. Surely in this case wearing traditional appropriation is not cultural appropriation - I would hesitate to make a comment regarding heritage given the fact this now is seen as racist. The whole issue means that most people feel will just avoid the issue entirely which is not good for a diverse socitey

Not most people, just the racist and the stupid.

@TooBigForMyBoots
Are you referring to my post?

Yes.

@TooBigForMyBoots
I think avoiding a topic for fear of offending does not make a person either racist of stupid.

There is no reason other than motivation or prejudice that someone cannot find resources to educate themselves on racism, prejudice or bigotry before joining discussions. It's really as simple as that IMO.

@ImaginaryDragon
My post was very clear that this topic is now avoided due to the fact that the allegation of racism is made so quickly, often when it isn't there. The sad fact is that this approach is actually probably fuelling those who do hold deep seated racist views to be more extreme. Racism isn't everywhere and not everyone who expresses a differing view is racist - hurling insults is not the way forward for intelligent discussion.

@twelly you said most people. That is not true. Thankfully most people recognised the racism for what it was and we're disgusted by it. They don't fear anything.

Sadly there is racism and prejudice on a much wider scale than many realise. You are right there is not racism and/or prejudice in every interaction. There is just in more of it than people will acknowledge. But it is everywhere - education, healthcare, just going about my daily business. That is my irrefutable lived experience. I am the gender I was assigned at birth but I still take time to read up on gender issues and standpoints. I don't agree with everyone in a discussion but I make an effort to see why it might look different in their lane to mine, I dont just tell them it's on thei head or not an issue because it's not an issue for me, which is often what happens. Yes I slip, humans do, but I do try. How many people have really taken the time to understand what it means to be not white in the country of your birth? To be a non white female? Non white male. To understand how early children are conditioned about race or what structural racism looks like and why it exists? People are motivated to learn these things or not, it doesn't make them bad people but they can't contribute meaningful to the conversation until they do.

@TooBigForMyBoots
Maybe the word most people suggest I know most people which I don't so I will rephrase and say in my opinion there may be a tendency to avoid topics, just as people avoid topics for fear of causing offence.

💯Agree with your post@ImaginaryDragon .

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet You don’t know I’m white.

Anyway I guess it doesn’t matter now that it’s been put out there by Harry and Megs that lady Hussey she isn’t a racist. You must be feeling pretty shit that your whole argument has been debunked by the very people who were the catalyst.

It's unfortunate that Harry and Meghan would think it necessary to speak on this issue and inadvertently challenge their followers' assertion that Ngozi Fulani's racism incident validates Meghan's racism incidents.

They don't seem to care about anything unless it suits them.