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Outlander season 7

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KillingMeDeftly · 24/12/2022 10:24

The good news is that the the bad news is that season 7 won't be here until summer.

I've not actually read the books beyond volume 4 so don't know what's going to happen, but I presume Claire will live and she and Jamie will carry on as two of the hottest and youngest-looking sixtysomethings to ever hit our screens!

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MoChridhe · 27/06/2023 20:45

AngeloMysterioso · 27/06/2023 19:07

But Claire and Jamie knew the approximate date of the fire and were planning on not being there weren’t they?

I hope I'm not wrong in my recollection. In the book they knew the date and were spending the night in a neighbours property, don't remember who, probably Bobby Higgins. They then heard commotion in the big house and went to investigate and then found Wendigo and his gang.

aqiarious · 27/06/2023 20:49

Thanks to all for the book information, re. Jamie and travel through the stones.

I can't quite picture Jamie meeting Michael Mouse, as he called him!

Shinyandnew1 · 27/06/2023 21:03

Loving the series and quite glad all the stuff with Claire being gone accused of Malva’s murder passed by so quickly in the episode-it went on forever in the book! Glad she’s
back home on the ridge.

Am quite excited to see what they include from the books. Like a pp, I hope they miss out on a particular Fergus story coming up-though I do want to see more of him and Marsali! I also hope C+J do the long boat trip on the hunt for a printing press and to see other places! Looking forward to seeing where Bree and Roger go, too.

MoChridhe · 30/06/2023 19:46

I found 703 ok. Though I liked the previous 2 episodes more.
I found the Bug storyline a bit meh because while they were a big part of the story in the book and really attached to the Frasers and not dicks like they are portrayed on TV, I think non book readers may find it strange that they were being mourned at all 😕

Jamie's gift of seeing the future seems to be getting stronger. I wonder if that will lead to the explanation of Jamie's ghost looking at Claire in the first episode.

Loved the letters and seeing Lallybroch again.

Feministwoman · 30/06/2023 20:03

I'm pleased that they are condensing stuff and zipping through a lot of the wordy book exposition stuff, via Clare talk over narrative.
I read that DG had a lot more input as a Consultant into this series, and tbh it shows.
Not sure how the TV series will handle the upcoming stuff from the books with Bree, Roger, Jemmy and Mandy, along with all the introducing Denny, Rachel, William, Jane, Frances etc stuff arc though, never mind the whole Lord John stuff from Bees!

Maybe they won't bother with the plot from Bees.

A lot of plot to pack in to S 7 and ( the last) Series 8!

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Feministwoman · 30/06/2023 20:06

And I loved 7/3.

Cried a lot. A fire is devastating and it really made the point. I think someone in the production team must have had a house fire at some point.

Everything, even if theoretically "undamaged" stinks of smoke.
It's horrible.

MoChridhe · 30/06/2023 20:22

I wish they had included the part about his cock in this dialogue 🤣 . Copied from the book

Have ye got a penny, a nighean?” said Jamie, next to me.
“A what?”
“Well, any sort of money will do.”
“I don’t think so, but …” I rummaged in the pocket tied at my waist, which by this point in our preparations held nearly
as large a collection of improbabilities as did Jamie’s sporran. Among hanks of thread, twists of paper containing
seeds or dried herbs, needles stuck through bits of leather, a small jar full of sutures, a woodpecker’s black-and-white-
spotted feather, a chunk of white chalk, and half a biscuit,which I had evidently been interrupted while eating, I did in
fact discover a grubby half-shilling, covered in lint and biscuit crumbs.
“That do you?” I asked, wiping it off and handing it over.
“It will,” he said, and held out something toward me. Myhand closed automatically over what turned out to be the
handle of a knife, and I nearly dropped it in surprise.
“Ye must always give money for a new blade,” he explained, half smiling. “So it kens ye for its owner, awillna turn on ye.”
“Its owner?”
The sun was touching the edge of the Ridge, but there was still plenty of light, and I looked at my new acquisition.

It was a slender blade, but sturdy, single-edged and beautifully honed; the cutting edge shone silver in thedying sun. The hilt was made from a deer’s antler, smooth and warm in my hand—and had been carved with two small depressions, these just fitting my grip. Plainly it was myknife.

“Thank you,” I said, admiring it. “But—”
“Ye’ll feel safer if ye have it by you,” he said, matter-of-fact. “Oh—just the one more thing. Give it here.”

I handed it back, puzzled, and was startled to see him draw the blade lightly across the ball of his thumb. Blood
welled up from the shallow cut, and he wiped it on his breeches and stuck his thumb in his mouth, handing me back
the knife.

“Ye blood a blade, so it knows its purpose,” he explained, taking the wounded digit out of his mouth.

The hilt of the knife was still warm in my hand, but a small chill went through me. With rare exceptions, Jamie wasn’t
given to purely romantic gestures. If he gave me a knife, he thought I’d need it. And not for digging up roots and hacking
tree bark, either. Know its purpose, indeed.

“It fits my hand,” I said, looking down and stroking thesmall groove that fit my thumb. “How did you know to make
it so exactly?”

He laughed at that. “I’ve had your hand round my cock often enough to know
the measure of your grip, Sassenach,” he assured me.

I snorted briefly in response to this, but turned the blade and pricked the end of my own thumb with the point. It was
amazingly sharp; I scarcely felt it, but a bead of dark-red blood welled up at once. I put the knife into my belt, took his
hand, and pressed my thumb to his.

“Blood of my blood,” I said.
I didn’t make romantic gestures, either.

Feministwoman · 30/06/2023 22:00

MoChridhe · 30/06/2023 20:22

I wish they had included the part about his cock in this dialogue 🤣 . Copied from the book

Have ye got a penny, a nighean?” said Jamie, next to me.
“A what?”
“Well, any sort of money will do.”
“I don’t think so, but …” I rummaged in the pocket tied at my waist, which by this point in our preparations held nearly
as large a collection of improbabilities as did Jamie’s sporran. Among hanks of thread, twists of paper containing
seeds or dried herbs, needles stuck through bits of leather, a small jar full of sutures, a woodpecker’s black-and-white-
spotted feather, a chunk of white chalk, and half a biscuit,which I had evidently been interrupted while eating, I did in
fact discover a grubby half-shilling, covered in lint and biscuit crumbs.
“That do you?” I asked, wiping it off and handing it over.
“It will,” he said, and held out something toward me. Myhand closed automatically over what turned out to be the
handle of a knife, and I nearly dropped it in surprise.
“Ye must always give money for a new blade,” he explained, half smiling. “So it kens ye for its owner, awillna turn on ye.”
“Its owner?”
The sun was touching the edge of the Ridge, but there was still plenty of light, and I looked at my new acquisition.

It was a slender blade, but sturdy, single-edged and beautifully honed; the cutting edge shone silver in thedying sun. The hilt was made from a deer’s antler, smooth and warm in my hand—and had been carved with two small depressions, these just fitting my grip. Plainly it was myknife.

“Thank you,” I said, admiring it. “But—”
“Ye’ll feel safer if ye have it by you,” he said, matter-of-fact. “Oh—just the one more thing. Give it here.”

I handed it back, puzzled, and was startled to see him draw the blade lightly across the ball of his thumb. Blood
welled up from the shallow cut, and he wiped it on his breeches and stuck his thumb in his mouth, handing me back
the knife.

“Ye blood a blade, so it knows its purpose,” he explained, taking the wounded digit out of his mouth.

The hilt of the knife was still warm in my hand, but a small chill went through me. With rare exceptions, Jamie wasn’t
given to purely romantic gestures. If he gave me a knife, he thought I’d need it. And not for digging up roots and hacking
tree bark, either. Know its purpose, indeed.

“It fits my hand,” I said, looking down and stroking thesmall groove that fit my thumb. “How did you know to make
it so exactly?”

He laughed at that. “I’ve had your hand round my cock often enough to know
the measure of your grip, Sassenach,” he assured me.

I snorted briefly in response to this, but turned the blade and pricked the end of my own thumb with the point. It was
amazingly sharp; I scarcely felt it, but a bead of dark-red blood welled up at once. I put the knife into my belt, took his
hand, and pressed my thumb to his.

“Blood of my blood,” I said.
I didn’t make romantic gestures, either.

Oh yes!
This.

IwantToRetire · 30/06/2023 23:34

Not having read the books I found this episode like a filler to get us from one story line to the next, though heaved a sigh of relief it wasn't going to just be Bree and Roger inexplicable settled in modern times having arrived with 2 children and 18th century clothing!

Sorry I am really bad at names, so cant name the character, but did the man who had taken the Jacobite silver encourage his wife to go and dig it up knowing that it was almost certain Jaimie at least would be waiting. ie did he in fact sacrifice his wife?

Have just googled, is he really called Bug? I thought that was just a derogartory reference to his behaviour. https://www.whattowatch.com/news/outlander-season-7-episode-3-recap-legends-and-promises

I do suspect I am not getting as much out of this as those who know the back story from the books.

Has Jamie always been religious or is this increasing with age. I dont remember from earlier series, but then I am bad at detail.

Outlander season 7 episode 3 recap: Legends and promises

Here's what happened in Outlander season 7 episode 3.

https://www.whattowatch.com/news/outlander-season-7-episode-3-recap-legends-and-promises

Maggiesgirl · 01/07/2023 00:52

The Buggs have a far larger storyline in the books, MrsBugg in particular is much loved as the Family's Housekeeper.

Yes Jamie is more religious in the books.

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 01/07/2023 01:14

Hello can I join in? :)

I haven't read the books either, I haven't found this series one of the strongest so far but glad they're done with the malva storyline!

Don't get why bree & co. aren't planning to head back once mandy is cured?

Also thought Jamie's dreams of the future must explain him watching clare in the first series, looking forward to seeing how that plays out.

Does anyone else find the jacobite gold turning up just a bit too convenient?

MoChridhe · 01/07/2023 02:07

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 01/07/2023 01:14

Hello can I join in? :)

I haven't read the books either, I haven't found this series one of the strongest so far but glad they're done with the malva storyline!

Don't get why bree & co. aren't planning to head back once mandy is cured?

Also thought Jamie's dreams of the future must explain him watching clare in the first series, looking forward to seeing how that plays out.

Does anyone else find the jacobite gold turning up just a bit too convenient?

Bree and kids can't return because there is a war coming.

Feministwoman · 01/07/2023 02:10

Jamie has always had a deep religious belief.
Really, you need to read the books to get the nuances and background, I think

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 01/07/2023 02:18

MoChridhe · 01/07/2023 02:07

Bree and kids can't return because there is a war coming.

Oh that's pretty obvious really

Don't know why I didn't think of that

Maggiesgirl · 01/07/2023 09:25

Claire also felt that each time coming through the stones was harder physically.

It's not like a revolving door (as Diana wrote) Claire herself feels that she coukd not return, not only because she would not leave Jamie but because she would not survive the trip.

Remember not all of Otter Tooth and Donners compatriots made it through either.

So unless it was a case of life and death, as in Mandy's case nobody would do the trip out of choice.

blibblibs · 01/07/2023 10:42

I'm wondering how this next bit is going to play out, they surely can't put the whole somewhat long winded journey to Scotland in but there are important bits they can't miss out.
If you like to read I would definitely recommend the books, they give far more insight to the characters and their actions I'm not sure I would have enjoyed the show as much without having re read the books so many times.
I have two friends that watch but haven't read and one loves it and the other gave up at season 4.

Shinyandnew1 · 01/07/2023 17:07

I'm wondering how this next bit is going to play out, they surely can't put the whole somewhat long winded journey to Scotland in but there are important bits they can't miss out.

I reckon they’ll gloss over the long journey to Scotland. I wonder if if they’ll do the separate journey back (Claire goes back early due to the emergency)-there’s a lot there that follows which they could choose to include or leave out!

aqiarious · 01/07/2023 17:20

That makes more sense now re. stone travel and physical toll. Thanks again book folks.

I really might actually read them, even though not the quick read I'd imagined, though probably best to start at the beginning.

I hoped they might actually stay in Scotland. I can see Claire returning there (possibly) if Jamie died first. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has found the Frasers Ridge dull at times.

I wonder if Bree and Roger will return to FR in the past. I can't see them doing it unless they think they need to warn about some danger again. I like that they're possibly going to buy Lallybroch?

Munchyseeds2 · 01/07/2023 18:06

I've not read the books ( I want to tho)
I feel like Bree and Roger will buy Lallybroch

Prahaps they need to find the hidden gold after all

Maggiesgirl · 01/07/2023 20:17

Bree and Roger won't need the gold.

When Claire came through the stones she had set everything in motion for Bree to be left the Boston House and all her bank accounts and worldly goods.

So when Bree came through she had sold everything apart from her personal item which she had crated up and sent to Roger for safe keeping.

All the money from the Boston house sake and Claire's accounts, Bree sent to Joe Abernathy to be held in trust for when she got back ( remember Bree had thought she would only be gone for a short time, maybe a year.

So now they have all that money to buy Lallybroch with.

IwantToRetire · 01/07/2023 20:42

Spoiler! Or was it mentioned and I just forgot?

Mookie81 · 01/07/2023 21:19

Ginger1982 · 24/06/2023 21:25

I've never really understood Claire. I get she loves Jamie, but as a mother I've never been able to fathom how she could leave Bree to travel back to find Jamie and think she would never see her again.

Have you seen him naked? Grin

fiftyandfat · 01/07/2023 21:21

The books are way better than the TV series.

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 01/07/2023 22:12

fiftyandfat · 01/07/2023 21:21

The books are way better than the TV series.

As a bookworm this is tattooed on my forehead but I've not read the Outlander ones and I feel oddly loyal to the TV series lol

I've decided I'll read them once the final series has finished Grin

blibblibs · 01/07/2023 22:35

I saw the TV show first and wasn't sure I'd bother with the books but I'm so glad I did. They are much better than the TV show, although not at all taxing. I now have the 25 year anniversary editions up to the 4th book, it's going to take me a long while to complete the collection!
It was good having a vision of Jamie cause I'm not sure I would've had the imagination for something quite as wonderful as Sam in a kilt. But I have found a few of the characters quite wrong to watch. Mid Willie was all wrong and Lizzie. And I've just seen a picture of Mandy and she's all wrong too but it's no biggy really as Sam in a kilt or not makes up for it 😁