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Outlander season 7

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KillingMeDeftly · 24/12/2022 10:24

The good news is that the the bad news is that season 7 won't be here until summer.

I've not actually read the books beyond volume 4 so don't know what's going to happen, but I presume Claire will live and she and Jamie will carry on as two of the hottest and youngest-looking sixtysomethings to ever hit our screens!

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Maggiesgirl · 02/07/2023 07:36

I started reading the books back in the 90's and have eagerly waited for the next one each time.

I was excited to hear there was to be a TV series but dud wonder if I would like it, would they stick true to the books or would they butcher them.

Presently surprised on the whole, couple of things I didn't like ( especially the Claire depending on the ether). Loved that Murtagh survived Culloden though.

This season is really sticking to the books, or so it seems so far and is much more like season 1 in that context.

The books give so much more background to each episode.

JamieFrasersBigSwingingKilt · 02/07/2023 19:35

Rather a slow episode, I thought. They could definitely pick up the pace on things. I like seeing Roger and Bree in more modern Scotland though.

Dogsitterwoes · 03/07/2023 11:09

How do they explain 2 kids with no birth certificates or records?

ChocBananaSmoothie · 03/07/2023 11:14

Dogsitterwoes · 03/07/2023 11:09

How do they explain 2 kids with no birth certificates or records?

The baby wouldn't have been a problem. The son though, not sure how you'd do that. Maybe just deal with the fine for failing to register a birth? "Oh, it just slipped our minds."

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 03/07/2023 12:09

ChocBananaSmoothie · 03/07/2023 11:14

The baby wouldn't have been a problem. The son though, not sure how you'd do that. Maybe just deal with the fine for failing to register a birth? "Oh, it just slipped our minds."

It was easier in the 60s, though, wasn't it?
You hear of people who took on new identities pretty easily, I don't think there were the same barriers then that there are now.

BorgQueen · 03/07/2023 15:37

Aren’t they in the late 1970’s now?

Maggiesgirl · 03/07/2023 16:24

Claire wrote the children's birth certificates. It was legal then in the US for the attending Doctor to do them and as Claire was still a registered Doctor she could do them. The ruse was they had been living off grid when the children were born.

The MacKenzie's have come back through in 1980. They went to Boston for Mandy's operation then later to Scotland.

KillingMeDeftly · 03/07/2023 16:39

1980? But surely they spent no more than about 5/6 years in the 18th century? Bree got pregnant with Jem soon after they arrived and he's still very little when they go back.

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KillingMeDeftly · 03/07/2023 16:39

1980? But surely they spent no more than about 5/6 years in the 18th century? Bree got pregnant with Jem soon after they arrived and he's still very little when they go back.

And the fasions looked earlier than the 80s...maybe the TV series has used some artistic licence?

Maggiesgirl · 03/07/2023 18:21

In the books Brianna went through the stones in Oct 1971. Ended up in Scotland in Oct 1769. Spent the winter in Scotland and set sail for America in spring 1770. Took 4 months to get to America then another 3/4 months to get to the Ridge. Within that time she met up with Rofer and got raped by Bonnet.

They left after Mandys birth in the spring of 1778 when Jemmy was 7.

The TV show plays a bit with the children's ages.

ChocChipHandbag · 04/07/2023 00:05

I laughed at Jamie relying on Jemmy to know where the Spaniard’s cave was. My son similar age to Jemmy would have forgotten instantly and denied he ever heard anything about a Spaniard or a cave!

Sycasmores · 06/07/2023 23:08

Do we know when the last book will come out? Will they time it to come out with the last season so folk don't know the ending?

Maggiesgirl · 06/07/2023 23:22

Each book takes Diana between 5 to 7 years to write. Book 9 only came out 18 months ago, so I very much doubt that the last bookbwill be done before the series finishes. Maybe they will finish up with a film as The Last Kingdom did.

MoChridhe · 07/07/2023 14:23

Just finished watching episode 4. I like William and I think he is well cast. Love the chemistry between Ian and Rachel. Loved Bree taking down the patriarchy like her mama.
I don’t remember the gold musket in the books maybe someone here knows. Is it of any significance? I must admit I skipped most of this book, it was a challenge. Too many characters.

I’m glad the dismal swamp was wrapped up quickly. It nearly took up a fifth of the book.

Maggiesgirl · 07/07/2023 16:29

The musket ball wasn't in the book. Wish the children's book that Jamie wrote and the medical book that Claire wrote had been in there. Not sure how they are going to get round the missing book later on.

Yes the Great Dismal did go on a bit, show has done that well.

Acor who plays William is good, seems to have taken on some of Jamie's mannerisms.

Liking Bree in this series, much more like the book Bree.

Loved the look on Claire's face when Tom kissed her.

KillingMeDeftly · 07/07/2023 18:18

I'm still struggling to get my head around how time works in Outlander. By the look of the kids, Bree and Roger have been back about 5 years now and they're noticeably older to what they were last week. But Jamie and Claire are still on their way to get a ship to Scotland?

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MoChridhe · 07/07/2023 20:18

I don't think the past and future are in tandem. Bree is reading the letters telling them what happened after they left. Notice there is a whole bunch of letters in the box written at different times then collectively put in the box years after they had been written.

aqiarious · 07/07/2023 22:14

I'm liking the modern day Scotland at the moment. I'd hoped the others would be on their way to Scotland too, but now they're drawn into more fighting.

Not much else to add. Did Tom explain how he was free or did I miss that somehow (a possibility !)

Feministwoman · 07/07/2023 23:28

That was good. It's really noticeable how much better the tv series moves on, with Diana much more involved in the dialogue!
And yes, the Great Dismal stuff really dragged in the book!
Loved Bree overcoming the Patriarchy!
Off to read the book (again, for the 10th time) to get to the start of the next episode

Maggiesgirl · 08/07/2023 00:29

I think Bree and Roger are not suppose to have got the letters as soon as they got there, so they are reading what happened out of sync.

It's like Ian being in the Great Dismal before Jamie and Claire get to Ticondarosa. The timings of the three stories are different.

storminamooncup · 08/07/2023 08:36

Not read the books. I want to know what's going on with Jemmy!

ChocChipHandbag · 08/07/2023 10:04

I don’t understand how the letters got there and how they found out about them. Why were the letters not there when Claire and Bree visited Scotland together before Claire went back through the stones and found Jamie working as a printer in Edinburgh? And why has nobody else opened the box and read them?

KillingMeDeftly · 08/07/2023 10:09

I find 1970s Bree a lot more tolerable than 1770s Bree. I like her bangs and cosy jumpers too!

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ChocChipHandbag · 08/07/2023 10:04

I don’t understand how the letters got there and how they found out about them. Why were the letters not there when Claire and Bree visited Scotland together before Claire went back through the stones and found Jamie working as a printer in Edinburgh? And why has nobody else opened the box and read them?

The bank was given instructions to deliver the box of letters in the year that Fiona received them.

So basically, in 1770 something when Bree and family travel back through the stones, Claire and Jamie know that in the future Bree will at some point visit Fiona. So they start writing all those letters as events happen in their lives. Jamie even wrote a book " A Grandfsther's Tales" with lots of children's stories. However it appears the book hasn't made it to the show.

When Jamie and Claire eventually make it to Scotland, they will put all letters and book into the box addressed to Jemmy and then deposit it in a bank to be delivered in the late 1970s or whatever year. The box wasn't there yet in the 1960s.

ChocChipHandbag · 08/07/2023 11:42

The box wasn't there yet in the 1960s.

OK it’s all Back to the Future then, in that Claire, Bree and Roger going back changed the course of history (at least on a small family level). Is that not a bit dangerous though, what if somewhere along the line it has changed things so that Roger had never been born or something?

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