Caroline Flack - search for the truth - Disney

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Dropped this morning on Disney.

Wow 😞😞😞😞 am absolutely speechless after watching this. So much we didn't know.

That was her blood on the bed, shame on you The Sun newspaper for buying this photo and stating that it was the bf .

Shame on you the detective who inserted herself into something that was none of her business and made this much worse than it was and for lying.

Shame on you the prosecutor who at Caroline's plea hearing you spoke lies.

Caroline's mum ❤️❤️❤️ her family and friend who were involved in the documentary, very well done and very informative, the newspapers need to print an apology.

Lou Teasdale spoke about this in her sitdown with Paul on the 'need to talk podcast'. Worth a listen for her view.

It absolutely would have moved forwards. You probably get 20 or 30 such cases in a local court per week. Strictly speaking, if you hit somebody and break the skin causing bleeding using an instrument, you’re quite lucky to ‘get away’ with a simple assault as you could charge a more serious offence. Simple assaults/battery are usually used for open handed slaps or shoves. Not breaking the skin and causing a bleeding head wound.

What you’ve written simply isn’t true.

I’m glad to hear it

That’s interesting I’m sure the more recent film 4 documentary (the inquest was in 2020, not long after it happened obviously) challenged the idea she’d ever hit him. Maybe it was just the blood that they disputed

What happened is obviously terrible for her family but I don’t think she was a decent or nice person. There would have been a lot less public sympathy if she’d been male.

I feel so sorry for her mum but she’s just casting about for someone to blame. Caroline assaulted her partner and admitted it, she should have been prosecuted in any right thinking world. Caroline may have been vulnerable in some way and hence could not cope with the consequences and ended her life but domestic violence isn’t on no matter what the person is going through.

i agree with this. Losing a family member to suicide is brutal, unfortunately I’ve first hand experience of that, but it doesn’t mean they’re blameless for any wrongdoing in their lives, no matter the reason for their behaviour.
The press shredded her but this documentary isn’t unbiased either.

Have you watched the documentary?

I don't blame Christine Flack at all for wanting to make the documentary or for looking for people to blame - she's grieving and, of course, desperate to have her daughter portrayed in the best light possible. I blame the documentary makers for exploiting that desire to make a film. It is, in its own way, just as immoral and parasitic as the tabloid coverage itself.

From interviews earlier in the week the film crew had said they wanted to follow her through this crisis and she agreed. It was a logical thing for them to do as they must’ve known it would be exclusive footage but not really clear why they’ve sat on it for 5 years until Disney bought it- maybe that’s why it’s taking the angle it is, it was not saleable in a different way- it’s being sold as a sort of mysterious miscarriage of justice

It seems to have been made by the same people as the 2021 documentary - so, cynically, have they just strung it out so as to get double the return on what is really one story?

Very interesting. They’ve brought the mum around, she was much more balanced in the 2021 documentary

Hmm. The channel 4 documentary is no longer available. Would have been interesting to see if there were any differences from her mum, family and acquaintances

I don’t understand the angle they are trying to take re: the court case. Yes, it probably only amounted to an assault but the domestic element would have raised that to a higher level. Then they emphasise that she had self harmed and it was her blood in the property. But also say she self harmed due to him calling the police which is manipulative in itself and surely just further evidence of an abusive situation. You’d be shocked at how many abusers use self harm as a punishment to their partner or to make themselves into the victim. It’s very common and doesn’t take away from her initial actions, rather it adds to them.

IIRC her mum was very much “she was deeply troubled and completely unable to deal with relationships- we were all worried this would happen from the time she started dating” the mum wasn’t blaming anyone else then

I'm also pretty sure the main reveal of that documentary was that the blood was hers, and that he hasn’t been assaulted.

this review doesn’t align with the responses here at all which is interesting

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/nov/10/caroline-flack-search-for-the-truth-review-a-disturbing-look-at-the-stars-turbulent-last-months

In terms of TV viewing yes but the factual legal side appears sketchy.

She wants justice, she says, and “will do anything to clear Caroline’s name”

She was never convicted, so what would this look like?

The inconsistencies pile up thick and fast, leading Christine to believe that her daughter caused minimal physical harm to Burton but had been made an example of nonetheless

Is a noticeable head injury ‘minimal harm’? Would it be deemed as such had CF had a female romantic partner? Forget ‘what if she was a man’ stuff, just imagine if the victim was female. Would it be acceptable to call the harm ‘minimal’ and imply inflicting injuries should be let off with a slap on the wrist so long as they’re not life threatening?

While Burton did not receive any medical treatment, Caroline spent 12 hours in hospital due to self-inflicted injuries

Lots of victims do not seek medical attention or review even if recommended, and her injury doesn’t absolve what happened to him.

The message here isn’t that women don’t abuse men. Rather, it is that – based on all of the official documentation examined by Christine – Caroline wasn’t a domestic abuser, but a woman in the throes of a mental-health crisis.

I would say the majority of offenders of all varieties and severity have some kind of complex mental health condition or crisis on the go. This isn’t at all unusual, and unless it’s so severe they’re deemed incapable of understanding the proceedings, the prosecution continues regardless. CF is no different in this respect. Hitting a partner, unless in self defence, makes you a domestic abuser, regardless of your state of mind (to me).

Nazir Afzal – a former chief prosecutor of the CPS – once saw it as an open-and-shut case of domestic abuse; when he meets Christine, he struggles to understand why Caroline didn’t simply receive a police caution.

Well yes, no 2 lawyers are identical in their thinking and outcomes will see some variation according to the person who makes the charging decision. This person is infamous for ‘giving opinions in the media’ and they wouldn’t have brought him on had his opinion been the opposite. Did they interview any lawyers who thought it was justified? I assume not.

I’m absolutely baffled that Caroline was holed up in The Ned finishing the mini bar and not with her mother or sister. How can Christine blame Lou when she wasn’t with Caroline herself? It’s all weird.

Whilst I (again) agree I think the controversy from the 2021 documentary and still now, is that it is disputed that she hit him with the lamp ( i don’t think it’s disputed that she threw the phone)

I think it’s clear that Caroline was very volatile and what she did was wrong - I don’t think many people are doubting that but it’s quite clear to me that the detective who appealed against the CPS decision to give a caution obviously seen an opportunity to get a win on domestic violence for the Met.

Police shouldn’t be allowed to stand up in court and only tell half of a story and this disgusting trial by media needs to stop, as I said earlier, newspapers and media sources should be held accountable for the consequences of their blatant lies!

Ultimately without a Time Machine so we can rig the flat with CCTV, we will never know.

The evidence suggests to me that she did. He is an unreliable witness now as he withdrew support for the prosecution fairly soon afterwards, as far as I know. All we have is the evidence and to me it’s enough to pursue a charge of assault.

Here we go again.

the detective who appealed against the CPS decision to give a caution obviously seen an opportunity to get a win on domestic violence for the Met

Police appeal decisions all the time, this isn’t unusual at all. With hundreds if not thousands of DV cases in court every year in London alone, nobody is going to doggedly pursue 1 to massage the statistics.

Police shouldn’t be allowed to stand up in court and only tell half of a story

Did this happen here? If so, when?

How does the ned fit in? My understanding was that family and friends were taking it in shifts to watch her at home to stop her killing herself

any one who has had to watch a suicidal loved one knows how hard that is and how they will take any opportunity.

Have you watched the documentary?

I’m sure police do challenge decisions and rightly so but given that the victim hadn’t needed to be seen by paramedics and had no notable injury - should they have challenged it on the basis of the ‘victim receiving a significant injury’ or ‘a lack of acceptance of guilt’ despite the police reports mentioning that Caroline admitted 12 times that she had hit him and was remorseful?

and again, the documentary talks about how in court it was mentioned that the room was full of blood but didn’t mention that it wasn’t the victims blood. They also stated that she hit him with a lamp but didn’t mention that Caroline had said it was a phone and that the police report mentioned that they seized a phone with a cracked corner and a small amount of blood - which they therefore assumed was the weapon.

So yeah - here we go again!

exactly. All of this just sounds like a textbook abuser case.

Loads of domestic abusers hurt themselves after hurting their partner. Mean the victim thinks it’s their fault, that theh have to look after the abuser or makes them scared to call the police.

she also had a habit of dating men younger and less famous or earlier in their careers, a power imbalance again quite typical of an abuser. Harry styles was what? 17 when they dated when she was in her early 30’s? And the partner she was charged with assaulting was 12 years younger.