Caroline Flack - search for the truth - Disney

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Dropped this morning on Disney.

Wow 😞😞😞😞 am absolutely speechless after watching this. So much we didn't know.

That was her blood on the bed, shame on you The Sun newspaper for buying this photo and stating that it was the bf .

Shame on you the detective who inserted herself into something that was none of her business and made this much worse than it was and for lying.

Shame on you the prosecutor who at Caroline's plea hearing you spoke lies.

Caroline's mum ❤️❤️❤️ her family and friend who were involved in the documentary, very well done and very informative, the newspapers need to print an apology.

What did the documentary claim?

This is basically her mums version of events so its not going to be objective. Interestingly almost all her friends declined to participate.

I haven’t watched it yet and I’m aware that lots of her friends refused to be involved but regardless of whether it is subjective or not - we should be able to trust mainstream media sources to tell the basic truth.
Telling deliberate lies about the blood etc is disgusting and I hope that those journalists involved feel deeply ashamed considering the outcome. But being from Liverpool, I’m well aware that those working for that rag have no morals whatsoever.

Lets just hope that Caroline rests in peace after what she was put through on earth 😢

I wonder why they airbrushed Lou Teasdale out as she was with Caroline in the lead up to her suicide and Lou’s dad helped her when she found her body. It’s an absolutely tragic story. I think Caroline should have been sectioned after her first attempt. I hope her family find peace.

Dan Wooton (and The Sun) were absolutely vitriolic in the lead up to her death. I’m surprised he wasn’t mentioned as he led a hate campaign.

I think it’s her mum’s search to blame someone else. Very unfair the way her friends were blamed

I agree that her Mum is just struggling coming to terms with it and is looking to blame someone.

The documentary revealed itself that the instant Caroline had struck Lewis with the phone and he said he was going to call the police. She said there and then that her career was over, she had lost everything and was going to end it all. She then proceeded to cut herself, severely.

So ultimately what ended up happening, was going to happen. Nothing to do with the press, the CPS, the public or #bekind. Caroline's response to the incident was to end it all and she did.
Terribly sad but no one's "fault".

I am sure her family once said she would always end up committing suicide which is tragic. I also believe it was nothing to do with the press.

Doesn't Caroline's mum blame Lou Teasdale for leaving Caroline alone? They clearly couldn't put that in the documentary - it's massively unfair and potentially defamatory - but I guess that's why she wasn't discussed in at all (I haven't seen the documentary).

It's surely time to move on. Her mum really needs to stop now. I don't know what she's expecting to happen from all of this? At the end of the day, it was a tragic incident that happened.

You can point all the fingers of blame where you like but Caroline chose to take her own life which demonstrates she must have been struggling generally and probably for a long time.

Yeah @JaquiRussell I agree. There have been multiple attempts by Caroline's DM to blame someone else for her suicide, even though she readily admits that Caroline had suffered from depression and poor MH since she was a teenager and how worried she was about her. I get that she's grieving the death of her DC and that she feels the press and the police made out Caroline to be an aggressor when she was in a very low and vulnerable place, but people who commit suicide are rarely thinking rationally at the time and she clearly wasn't. She was in a very, very bad place mentally, she was drinking and doing drugs and what happened was a tragedy, but it wasn't anyone else's fault.

Every celebrity knows that the media build you up and then tear you down at the slightest whiff of any scandal.

We don’t know what the outcome of the trial would have been but abuse figured in more than one of her relationships so it’s fair to say she was highly strung and was both a victim and a perpetrator of physical violence with her partners.

Her image would have been tarnished if she had been found guilty and she would have agonised over intimate details being revealed at the trial and then spread all over the media and I imagine that is what led to her taking her own life

Her mother wants to blame someone for her daughters death and won’t accept that Caroline was responsible for her own actions.

it’s very sad as she could have weathered the storm and people would have soon forgotten the trial and moved on to another scandal.

I think her mum also thinks she can't possibly have been abusive as she was ill and vulnerable herself, and I can sympathise with why she feels like that about her child. But the messy reality is that many abusers are mentally ill themselves and we don't say that means they shouldn't be arrested or charged for their crimes as long as they are able to understand and be held responsible for their actions. If we didn't send people with histories of mental illness to prison (not that Caroline would have got a custodial sentence if convicted) the places would be approaching empty.

I agree.

I presume this wasn't the friend that the mother publicly blamed for leaving Caroline alone? Who is she blaming now?Certain elements of the media were and are awful awful people, but I think it was obvious to friends and family that Caroline was always too fragile to be in the public arena. Her boyfriend was perfectly entitled to call the police in the circumstances and it shouldn't have blown up the way it did in the media, and possibly should have been handled differently by police (but they couldn't win, DV victims try to back out of charges going ahead all the time and not because the accused is innocent, and as far as I understand no one is disputing that she smacked him over the head while he was asleep) but I don't know if C liked being held accountable at all.
It's a terrible tragedy, and if anything good comes out of it re the behaviour of journalists great, but I think her poor mum needs support in somehow coming to terms with it all.

I really don’t understand why she’s put on this pedestal and how anyone can see her as a victim. She was a repeated domestic abuser who’s partner finally reported her to the police and she killed herself rather than be exposed.

the self harm and threatening further harm js textbook abused behaviour.

It would have been better if she’d got support rather than died but why shouldn’t newspapers report on her crimes?

To be fair they didn't just report facts on the case, it was sensationlised and twisted, like that she lamped him over the head and the place was splattered with his blood etc

Just watching it now.

Who has benefitted financially from this documentary?

inital thoughts are that her Mum needs to wind her neck in. Caroline Flack was more than happy to entertain the tabloids when it benefited her, there’s a journalist on the documentary saying she fed him stories herself.

I also thing it’s out of order for her Mum to go in to her phones and share her messages and voice notes with the World.

I feel sorry for Caroline’s mum, but this was not a balanced documentary.

There’s only one person to blame for Caroline’s suicide and that’s Caroline herself. I’m not sure what her mum is hoping to gain by sharing such personal detail about her daughter.

There was a documentary about Caroline made by her family and shown on C4 a few years ago so I really cannot image why there is a need for another one.

And most of all I can't think that this is something Caroline would WANT. Her mum says she was so distraught at having her private life picked over but they are doing the same to her now in death. Also very telling none of her friends chose/were invited to take part and from what I have read there is already a subtle changing of the narrative (claims CF sister was the one to find her but no mention of Lou Teesdale or her dad being there).

Whatever she was or wasn't guilty of Caroline was obviously very troubled and really should be left to rest now.

Just finished watching it. I’m on the fence. Everyone was very honest about Caroline’s mental health issues. But would the police have pursued a prosecution if it was Jane Bloggs down the road? All this ‘we have to get serious on domestic abuse - and they choose to do that when a woman is the instigator. It was also telling that Caroline offered up ‘good’ exclusive stories to bury any ‘bad’ ones but I suppose celebrities do that all the time. Didn’t her twin say that she wasn’t there properly for Caroline and believed the headlines? But atrocious that the boyfriend took photos of the blood soaked bed and sent them to a friend who then sold the picture.
Whatever demons Caroline had I’m sure we can all agree that the press in this country are mostly scum. Oh and the friend who said they didn’t want to call an ambulance for her because the bad press was more important than saving her life 😢
The mum doesn’t want her daughter labelled a domestic abuser - who would?! And as a member of the bereaved by suicide club I understand her needing to be able to find someone to blame but I think she needs to find another outlet for her grief.

When Caroline’s agent was speaking - she was very careful how she articulated everything which makes me think she knew how volatile Caroline could be.

At the end of the day a young woman died and it didn’t need to have come to that but I can see why she took the way out she did.

Why on earth do people want to continue to be famous when they can see what the press can do and what all the trolls at home can say?

I think Caroline has been really infantilised by her mother and the press. She was a middle aged woman with an extensive showbiz career and more resources than most. She chased fame at the expense of her mental health.

I remember an interview with her twin (who is a very private married mum). She didn’t say as much but she sounded exasperated and like she had spent decades propping Caroline up during her dark episodes, only to be pretty much ghosted in between when there were glitzy awards ceremonies to go to.

At the end of the day a young woman died

She was 40 - entering middle age.

Fair enough. My mum was 49 when she killed herself and going by the ages people live to today I still think of it as youngish. Would it be better if I said At the end of the day a middle aged woman died?

Yes I remember that - was that on another documentary? In this one (documentary) it didn’t come across that they were as close. I had forgotten about another friend finding her because this program was adamant it was her twin. They also said that Caroline never locked the door yet earlier in the documentary (when the flat was trashed) I was sure one of friends said she knew how to gain access to the flat.