Parental order for donor embryo

[KazBuck]

Ok I was wondering if anyone can give me advice. I was thinking to use a surrogate with a donor embryo but when looking at getting a parental order the child must be biologically related to the intended parents… Surely there must be a way around this ? I know I should speak to a solicitor and I’m waiting on a call just wondered if anyone has any experience with this topic x

I’m fully aware of the cost process And was just looking for “helpful” advice not some conversation regarding ethics ….

You do want to adopt, you just want to bypass any checks or difficulties by procuring a newborn.
These babies are humans not commodities made to order.
Adoption is a last resort when it's the only way to give a child a stable and safe family. Creating this situation through choice is gross.

If you don't want to think about the ethics of surrogacy you shouldn't be doing it.

By your argument an adoptive parent can never be as good as a biological one. Which is ridiculous. There is so much more to being a parent than that.

What you don't have though is the right to a baby who is not genetically related to you. No-one does.

Sometimes it's pretty unfair on the child that their bio parants had the right to have them, but there isn't anything much we can do about biology without straying into eugenics....

Fertility issues are awful and are as difficult an issue to deal with as many other illnesses and disabilities. Anyone suffering from fertility issues deserves the utmost compassion. This does not mean they should then have the right to treat their disability by the creation of an unrelated human being who is removed at birth from its biological parent, solely to alleviate the pain of someone's infertility. The child's right to the best possible start in life must come first, and I don't think this is it. Unfortunately.

Obviously that's another straw man argument and not what I said or believe in the least. If you're going to disagree at least try to disagree with the point actually being made.

Please don’t refer to fertility issues as a disability.

With this argument you would be against adoption too.

Not at all. Adoption exists as a solution to a problem: children who cannot safely be cared for by their parent(s) or another adult close to them.

With surrogacy, you are creating a child with the express intention of taking it away from its gestational mother (the fact that she isn't the biological mother is irrelevant- the baby doesn't know or care whose genes it carries).

The reason it's not legally possible is because it is not ethical. Someone whose only relationship to the child is by their credit card is not qualified to make decisions in the best interests of the child, who is a real human being not a commodity to be bought.

Are you against same sex couples having children ? Such as lesbian couples using donor sperm?

If you are fully aware then stop lying that no money would be exchanged. Advice about the ethics IS helpful, and people not considering them is one of the reasons why surrogacy can be an awful process that exploits women and babies. Your situation may not be like that but you are just pretending the issue is simpler than it is which isn’t right.

Adoption is never going to be as good as having a safe and stable birth family. We don't just remove babies from birth mothers if there's an adoptive parent available who might be better.

Those children are being raised by their biological mother. Why would that be in any way similar to surrogacy?

Your posts are very "me, me, me". Surrogacy is risk to the surrogate which is increased further by using a different egg. So you are willing to put 2 women at risk - one the egg donor and 2 the surrogate to help your feelings, nevermind the baby, you may feel a lot of posters are being harsh on here, but we are at most hurting your feelings while you are willing to hurt women's health to get what you want.

Because you are claiming donor embryo created children would have identity issues that are damaging.

Absolutely not- I'm a lesbian with a baby through donor sperm! I'm only against babies being taken away from their gestational mother.

A woman having a baby using donor sperm (or donor egg) isn't really the same as commissioning and purchasing a human being, is it?

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine well some people on this thread are claiming donor embryo created kids will have identity issues. By that token so would any child with a donor parent. I was just curious.

Some children born to a lesbian couple do have identity issues if the details of their father is withheld from them.

Being taken from its mother … Carrying a child that is not genetically related to you Does that make you its mother?? Adopted children are not genetically related There is a huge difference between being biologically and genetically related !!!

I am against gay men using surrogates, as that's no different from a heterosexual couple using surrogates, but absolutely not against gay men adopting children who are in need of parents.

To be biologically related also means being genetically related and vice versa

Our surrogate did

Really well I beg to differ if that friend chooses to do that It’s her choice And why would you assume it effects her financially …

I’m talking about someone doing it voluntarily for a friend or family member. Which I’m not against.