Parental order for donor embryo

[KazBuck]

Ok I was wondering if anyone can give me advice. I was thinking to use a surrogate with a donor embryo but when looking at getting a parental order the child must be biologically related to the intended parents… Surely there must be a way around this ? I know I should speak to a solicitor and I’m waiting on a call just wondered if anyone has any experience with this topic x

Because a child growing up being raised by parents who are not genetically linked to them will have identity issues! They will not just merrily think how lovely that my parents created me because they wanted me - they may resent you, they may seek their genetic parents, they may be angry, they may develop mental health issues! Have you not considered any of this? You're only thinking about what you want. It's selfish.

My health issues are of no concern to you But if there were issues with creating an embryo from donor eggs and sperms it would not be legal But it is !!! Plus different countries have different Laws regarding surrogacy. I have every right to not want to adopt even if I’m able to ….

Plenty of kids are born by donor embryos and are just fine. Just the same as plenty of adopted kids are just fine.

Do you get excited when someone posts about something you consider to be a human rights abuse? Hopefully not.

Who else will advocate for the babies who will be created for this commercial transaction?

Babies aren't commodities to be bought and sold. I thoroughly disapprove. That is why there are legal barriers to those practices. And you want a way to get round them. Not on.

And plenty aren’t, so it’s worth considering before making the decision.

Where's your evidence for that claim? And even if it's true, it doesn't mean that 'plenty' of people are very much not fine. There's no way to know how a child will feel about it when they grow up.

Every single child born via fertility treatment is created via a financial commercial transaction, so unless you’re against all forms of fertility treatment, it really isn’t a valid point.

Would it be a human rights abuse if I decided I would be a surrogate for a friend who couldn’t have kids ? Voluntarily? I don’t think so and that is my opinion. Just cos that is your opinion does not make it fact so stop presenting it like it is. Sorry.

No but do you consider the people who have natural pregnancy and become parents with absolute no checks or safeguarding and are not good parents at all and then said children end up in the care system. Its a difficult subject and I was just looking for advice not judgement or assumptions !!!

@KazBuck where is the guarantee that you'll be a good parent?

Plenty of children who are born in the normal way aren’t fine either. Another point to consider. Get off your high horse.

Really I don’t know what country your in but when your best friend offers to carry a child for you for absolutely no monetary gain What’s that then ?

Your human rights wouldn't be an issue in this scenario (although you'd need to need to consider how you would feel about giving up a baby who had lived inside your body for nine months).

The baby's human rights, however, would be an issue in this scenario. The baby would be removed from the only person it had ever known. Surrogacy is never in the baby's best interests.

Of course it does. You can’t just get a ‘friend’ to hand over a baby that shes carried for 9 months at her own personal expense. You’re pretty naive if you think surrogacy is free.

Babies born to their genetic mother via fertility treatment are in an entirely different situation to those born to a woman who then hands them over to a woman who may or may not be their genetic mother but who to the baby is a complete stranger.

That's a straw man argument and completely irrelevant to the question.

Honestly if you are going to do it you need to reimburse her costs for loss of work, maternity clothing etc

Thank you I assumed the same … it’s something I’m looking into and may well not do I was trying to gain more information x

@KazBuck if your friend does this, she'll need time off work, she may have health issues or birth injuries. She could even die from birth or pregnancy complications. These are all very real possibilities. What then? Youre just going to say 'ok, sorry about that, but thanks for my baby' and waltz off into the sunset?

I really just don't think you thought through the very real moral, ethical and legal implications of what you're proposing

Again, a strawman. Irrelevant to the discussion of deliberately creating children to be separated from their mother at birth and potentially being raised by parents with no genetic connection.

Sorry but I think this is absolute rubbish and full of holes. With this argument you would be against adoption too. Some biological mothers are absolutely awful and terrible parents. Carrying a child in your womb doesn’t automatically mean you are the perfect parent for your child.

Don't be daft. I know several women who’ve had IVF via the NHS and it hasn’t cost them anything.

Adoption exists to provide parents for children. Surrogacy exists to provide children for parents. Completely different situations.