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My partner of 3 years won’t tell his children about us

195 replies

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 00:09

Hi everyone.

I’m 46 with two children, aged 14 and 18 and I’ve been seeing someone for three years that I was vaguely friendly with for 8 years prior to getting together.

We have now been together for just over 3 years. And the recurring issue is that he spends a lot of time at his house visiting his children and helping his ex wife out.

He says his children won’t come to his flat to see him because it’s too small and it’s inconvenient for them, and his 21 year old daughter has what we suspect is agoraphobia and doesn’t like to leave the house.

He still has all his tools stored at the house (which he often needs for work), he has a lot of clothes still there, has his paperwork there so he goes there to do admin (he says it’s because his flat is so small). He also has his post and all his deliveries sent there.

He’s a builder so if any work needs doing he goes and does it (which I understand), he also maintains his wife’s car and runs errands and covers any additional charges like parking fines. He also has the only ring doorbell app on his phone, so he gets an alert anyone knocks at the house.

He’s often there every day, sometimes quickly to pick something up, albeit usually when his ex is out at work, and he’ll often sit and watch a film and have lunch or dinner there - to keep his daughter company.

I totally understand that he wants to and should see his daughters and I totally understand that he wants to help his wife where necessary but I feel like it’s a lot and that he’s still very enmeshed with the family unit and the house.

Recently he said that his ex had become upset and that she thought they might get back together - he told me he’d assured her they wouldn’t.

Because of all that, I’ve said that I want him to sit down with his ex and clarify exactly what’s going on and that I think it’s time for him tell his daughters that he’s seeing me - but he’s said no.

He says they’ll always hate me because they’re close to their mum and won’t like the fact that he’s moved on. That there’s no point upsetting them unnecessarily because they’ll never meet me and I won’t be part of their lives.

He’s a fireman, and a few weeks ago he had a scary close call at work. He jokingly said to me after that if he’d died, I wouldn’t have been able to go to his funeral which really upset me.

I understand that he what’s to protect his daughters feelings and doesn’t want to look like the bad guy for leaving their mum, but after three years, I feel hurt and unimportant and like I’m his dirty secret and like he cares more about hurting their feelings than he does mine.

He’s saying I’ve got it all wrong, I’m thinking too much into it, and he’s effectively left his family and home for me and that should be enough and that proves how much he loves me. I feel very confused.

I’d love some advice please.

Thank you so much

OP posts:
Frazzled2207 · 06/11/2021 09:04

@littlelokey

I suggested storing his stuff at mine but I just don’t have the space and his house is nearer to his flat. I know he’s not sleeping with her but I think he’s looking after her and is still on husband duties
YES! Why would you put up with this
Frazzled2207 · 06/11/2021 09:06

So most of your relationship he didn’t have the flat? Where was he living? Presumably with his wife? So he hadn’t even “left” then (but he still hasn’t really has he).

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:08

Because he’s a builder and instead of paying for a maintenance man or similar he does it. His friend is a mechanic so he takes her car in so she doesn’t get ripped off. I think he’s brainwashed me into thinking I’m unreasonable and I saw his point about wasting money when it’s something he could do in half an hour

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/11/2021 09:08

"I know he’s not sleeping with her"

How do you know this?. Short answer is that you do not.

"but I think he’s looking after her and is still on husband duties"

It seems that he has life just as he wants it and with two women in it, a cake eater. Both she and you are being thoroughly played by a master manipulator. Do not further waste your own life on such a man.

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:09

No he lived in a shared house with two friends and then he found a flat. I’m really not lying about how we got together if that’s what you are implying..

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TheChip · 06/11/2021 09:10

Does he still pay towards her living expenses too?

learnasyougo · 06/11/2021 09:10

When his wife (she's not his ex) rang the hotel and got upset, she was behaving in EVERY way as a woman discovering her husband's affair, not someone upset about a finality. She rang the hotel to see if he was there with another woman (and he was).
You are his bit on the side, his escapism. Your relationship is a shame. Ask yourself why you value yourself so little to let him use you like this and take you for a fool.

learnasyougo · 06/11/2021 09:11

Sham, not shame. The shame is on him ( and to lesser extent, you, for being a doormat and a mug)

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:14

Yes he does, a lot. He supports his two adult daughters and one of their boyfriends who live at home because one won’t leave the house and the others are saving for a house

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northernlight20 · 06/11/2021 09:15

how do you know he's not sleeping with her? I cannot believe that a 46 year old woman could be this gullible!

Southernbellenot · 06/11/2021 09:15

OP, this could be my ex.

We are absolutely separated - but not yet as divorced as it suits me better and he isn't forcing it. He lives by himself and sees other women (even had relationships with women) but he has clothes here, mail gets delivered here, runs errands for me, sees the kids here as they dont stay at his and lends me his car when mine is off the road to ferry the kids about. He is even coming on holiday with us at xmas.

It doesn't bother me so much as I am in no way to even start looking for anyone one else ( and we actually get on) but when I do I think there maybe issues. I know it causes issues with him and his girlfriends ( even had one ring me up) but its nothing to do with me.

I know ex stills sees us as his 'core family' and his private life he keeps boxed away out of sight. I know in his head he is having the best of both worlds.

No way would I put up with that if I was one of his GFs

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:15

Ouch okay. Thanks for your response

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MyButteredBread · 06/11/2021 09:16

Those are nice stories, op. I wonder what stories his ex/wife would tell.

Jonnylovesjazz · 06/11/2021 09:22

@PferdeMerde

and he’s effectively left his family and home for me and that should be enough and that proves how much he loves me

Even he’s admitting you’re the OW if he’s saying he left his family for you.

(You didn’t proofread your post btw. You’ve given him 2 careers.)

He can be a builder and a fire fighter. They can have two jobs, particularly if he’s a retainer fire fighter.
HeartsAndClubs · 06/11/2021 09:22

OP, surely you’re not really that stupid. Seriously?

He lives round his house, spends the odd night in his flat, who knows maybe they were on a trial separation and he got the flat while they worked things out and he hasn’t officially moved back. But they are 100% together, and the reason she goes off the deep end is because she knows he’s shagging around.

Why do you insist that he loves you, he doesn’t give a shit about you, or his wife, or his children, or any of the other women he’s probably shagging.

Is this the kind of example you want to be setting for your daughters? Grow up ffs.

ScrumptiousBears · 06/11/2021 09:23

My father was a firefighter. It's very easy to live two lives doing that job. Oh and he took the OW into the station regularly and they all kept the secret.

You need to wake up and see it from the outside and not just from your prospective.

He's having his cake isn't he.

Rainbowheart1 · 06/11/2021 09:27

I think your in love, so he tells you a story and like a soppy teenager you believe it.

We are not in love with him, so when you tell us the story, with no emotional attachment in it for us, we can see it’s all bullshit.

Your blinded by love.

His still with his wife

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:41

He isn’t still with his wife and she knows about me.. he just doesn’t want to tell his daughters because he doesn’t want to upset them

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AllyBama · 06/11/2021 09:43

Oh babe, do you really think his ‘husband duties’ don’t extend to still sleeping with her? Even occasionally.

I think you’re eyes are starting to open to what’s really going on, you probably really always knew deep down didn’t you. It’s been 3 years, if he was going to make a move he would have by now. Don’t waste another 3. Or 1 for that matter.

TheChip · 06/11/2021 09:44

How much does his wife know of you though? You only know what he tells you.
Not upsetting his adult children is a load of bullshit.
Theyre not stupid. They know if a relationship ends then more often than not, another one will begin. Him saying they'd hate you, he will have no way of ever knowing this. But he knows that by saying it, it will hopefully be enough to put you off from trying to meet them. Why would you want to meet people you know are going to hate you? Is how he will be thinking it will work.
Open your eyes, OP.

Frazzled2207 · 06/11/2021 09:50

@littlelokey

He isn’t still with his wife and she knows about me.. he just doesn’t want to tell his daughters because he doesn’t want to upset them
If they are adults they will be fully aware that that their parents don’t have a normal relationship and will understand. That is just pure spin and an excuse for not leaving her properly. Finish it today.
littlelokey · 06/11/2021 10:01

I have!

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KatherineJaneway · 06/11/2021 10:11

You've been played.

Notthesamegirl · 06/11/2021 10:19

OP - leaving all the other issues aside - imagine living a life where the daughters of your partner ‘hate you’ and want nothing to do with you till the rest of your life. This means you being left behind at any family get togethers, celebrations, holidays. You’ll be compartmentalised and only participate in a part of his life as hell avoid any confrontations with his ex or children. He’s weak and selfish and will not stand up for you. It’s really, really not worth it. Cut your losses as soon as you can.

Sleepinghyena · 06/11/2021 10:23

He's a fireman and a builder? 🤔