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My partner of 3 years won’t tell his children about us

195 replies

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 00:09

Hi everyone.

I’m 46 with two children, aged 14 and 18 and I’ve been seeing someone for three years that I was vaguely friendly with for 8 years prior to getting together.

We have now been together for just over 3 years. And the recurring issue is that he spends a lot of time at his house visiting his children and helping his ex wife out.

He says his children won’t come to his flat to see him because it’s too small and it’s inconvenient for them, and his 21 year old daughter has what we suspect is agoraphobia and doesn’t like to leave the house.

He still has all his tools stored at the house (which he often needs for work), he has a lot of clothes still there, has his paperwork there so he goes there to do admin (he says it’s because his flat is so small). He also has his post and all his deliveries sent there.

He’s a builder so if any work needs doing he goes and does it (which I understand), he also maintains his wife’s car and runs errands and covers any additional charges like parking fines. He also has the only ring doorbell app on his phone, so he gets an alert anyone knocks at the house.

He’s often there every day, sometimes quickly to pick something up, albeit usually when his ex is out at work, and he’ll often sit and watch a film and have lunch or dinner there - to keep his daughter company.

I totally understand that he wants to and should see his daughters and I totally understand that he wants to help his wife where necessary but I feel like it’s a lot and that he’s still very enmeshed with the family unit and the house.

Recently he said that his ex had become upset and that she thought they might get back together - he told me he’d assured her they wouldn’t.

Because of all that, I’ve said that I want him to sit down with his ex and clarify exactly what’s going on and that I think it’s time for him tell his daughters that he’s seeing me - but he’s said no.

He says they’ll always hate me because they’re close to their mum and won’t like the fact that he’s moved on. That there’s no point upsetting them unnecessarily because they’ll never meet me and I won’t be part of their lives.

He’s a fireman, and a few weeks ago he had a scary close call at work. He jokingly said to me after that if he’d died, I wouldn’t have been able to go to his funeral which really upset me.

I understand that he what’s to protect his daughters feelings and doesn’t want to look like the bad guy for leaving their mum, but after three years, I feel hurt and unimportant and like I’m his dirty secret and like he cares more about hurting their feelings than he does mine.

He’s saying I’ve got it all wrong, I’m thinking too much into it, and he’s effectively left his family and home for me and that should be enough and that proves how much he loves me. I feel very confused.

I’d love some advice please.

Thank you so much

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 06/11/2021 02:42

His children aren’t going to meet you and he doesn’t think you can go to his funeral - which part of that is supposed to say I love you? How has he left his family for you? He doesn’t seem to have left his family full stop. Sorry OP, this guy is a complete waste of time.

Bananarama21 · 06/11/2021 02:46

Your still the ow op.

Rainbowqueeen · 06/11/2021 02:55

I agree it sounds like he is still married.

No ones flat is too small to do paperwork.

Why would you want to be with someone who says you won’t ever meet his children or go to his funeral??

I’d end it and look for someone who deserves you

SinoohXaenaHide · 06/11/2021 03:39

It's completely obvious. As far as his family is concerned you don't exist and there is no prospect of him leaving. He lives there. They probably don't know about his flat either. You are the mistress, you are not his partner and never have been. He is not a good man. Have some self respect and stop hanging about for the scraps of time and attention he is willing to make available to you. He doesn't want to share his life with you and he isn't worth your effort anyway.

CircleofWillis · 06/11/2021 04:08

How long have they been separated? If it is still early days and you were having an affair, the caution is understandable.

NumberZ · 06/11/2021 04:39

His flat is his shag pad by the sound of it.

Graphista · 06/11/2021 04:56

I'm betting the nights he's at the flat side thinks he's working and the nights you think he's working he's at home

You're the ow op and I think you knew it but he's led you to believe he's left his wife when he hasn't

TheGirlCat · 06/11/2021 05:05

He is still very much a married man, in every respect of the word. You are the Other Woman. He is having an affair. His comment about his funeral outed him clear as day.

Sorry but you're the OW.

And that's why he can't introduce you to his children. He knows they will expose his cheating to his wife and out him. Hence why he keeps you separate.

TheGirlCat · 06/11/2021 05:13

I also hope you have text messages, photos etc of you and him as proof that you can show his wife what a cheating prick he is. I'd give him an ultimatum. You meet them this weekend, or his wife will be getting a message/letter with proof and you'll out him to his wife. And she is still very much, in every way his WIFE. And I think you know it. His wife deserves to know the truth.

icklekid · 06/11/2021 05:14

Have you ever been on holiday together on the 3 years? What did he do during lockdown? Stay at ex house or the flat? The funeral comment would have cut me deeply and I would have had to tell him if he didn’t think I was worthy of attending his funeral then what were we doing together??! If you were together surely it would be natural for you to organise it let alone attend it??!

FatCottonBuds · 06/11/2021 05:46

Oh dear! Wake up and smell the coffee OP.
You're his bit on the side.

isthismylifenow · 06/11/2021 05:51

No OP. Take a step back at look at what is going on.

This isn't a proper relationship. He's using you and I would bet my last dollar he isn't divorced.

BraveGoldie · 06/11/2021 05:56

I think the OP knows she WAS the OW originally, but she was hoping after he moved out to become the proper partner, but clearly isn't and will never be.

He is being very clear with you OP - you are not a legitimate or important part of his life and never will be.... believe what he shows and tells you.

If I've understood the situation correctly, then my only advice is to look for someone who is actually single next time, rather than being involved in a mess like this.

Rosegoldivy · 06/11/2021 05:58

Shamelessly following this as I agree he is having an affair

YanTanTetheraPetheraPimp · 06/11/2021 06:00

You’re still the OW I reckon, and he’s not divorced. I bet he has told his wife that he’s doing building work in another town to cover the fact that he’s away a lot.
Leave. He’s not worth it.

isthismylifenow · 06/11/2021 06:08

OP how can a flat be too small to do admin....

Moonface123 · 06/11/2021 06:24

This arrangement obviously suits him, two women looking after him, what more could he want ?
He doesnt care that you are on the sidelines, your wasting your time, he will never be what you want, look at his actions, zero progress in three years.

MsDogLady · 06/11/2021 06:34

OP, do you ever go out in public with this man? Do you and he go to restaurants, shop together, etc.? Are your children ever included?

It really sounds like you are his secret mistress. You need to use your agency and walk away.

RantyAunty · 06/11/2021 06:35

He's clearly lying to you and he's still married

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 06/11/2021 06:37

Re the jobs. A couple of firefighters I know socially, also have trades that they work in on their down time. Shift patterns can often give then about 4 days off in a row. One’s a carpenter, one’s an electrician. You can’t join the fire and rescue service until you are 18, they qualified in these trades between finishing school and going into the FRS.

50ShadesOfCatholic · 06/11/2021 06:39

Interesting. I have a friend who could well have been the wife in this situation. He told her what she wanted to hear and the other woman what she wanted to hear. It went on for four years. No-one was happy.
She's now divorced him and the other woman left him. The kids don't see him either.

Respect yourself, what would you advise a friend in this situation? You deserve better.

Tiredofbs123 · 06/11/2021 06:43

He ‘left’ his wife for you?

So your relationship was born from an affair where you participated in the betrayal of his wife and children. He probably has a point that his girls will never like you.

But aside from that, sounds as though the affair fizz has faded and he doesn’t know what to do with you both. How fantastic for him to keep two desperate women running.

Cut your losses, he’s not worth it.

trevthecat · 06/11/2021 06:53

Another vote for still with the wife. Have you met his family or his friends? I'd leave this relationship.

Laladell · 06/11/2021 06:55

I wouldn't put it past him to still be married to this woman, and even by the off chance he's not, it's still a very unhealthy relationship imo.

Go find someone who wants to show you off and you won't feel doubtful about x

ittakes2 · 06/11/2021 07:01

Did you know you had used the word wife instead of ex wife in your op? Speaks volumes don’t you think?