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My partner of 3 years won’t tell his children about us

195 replies

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 00:09

Hi everyone.

I’m 46 with two children, aged 14 and 18 and I’ve been seeing someone for three years that I was vaguely friendly with for 8 years prior to getting together.

We have now been together for just over 3 years. And the recurring issue is that he spends a lot of time at his house visiting his children and helping his ex wife out.

He says his children won’t come to his flat to see him because it’s too small and it’s inconvenient for them, and his 21 year old daughter has what we suspect is agoraphobia and doesn’t like to leave the house.

He still has all his tools stored at the house (which he often needs for work), he has a lot of clothes still there, has his paperwork there so he goes there to do admin (he says it’s because his flat is so small). He also has his post and all his deliveries sent there.

He’s a builder so if any work needs doing he goes and does it (which I understand), he also maintains his wife’s car and runs errands and covers any additional charges like parking fines. He also has the only ring doorbell app on his phone, so he gets an alert anyone knocks at the house.

He’s often there every day, sometimes quickly to pick something up, albeit usually when his ex is out at work, and he’ll often sit and watch a film and have lunch or dinner there - to keep his daughter company.

I totally understand that he wants to and should see his daughters and I totally understand that he wants to help his wife where necessary but I feel like it’s a lot and that he’s still very enmeshed with the family unit and the house.

Recently he said that his ex had become upset and that she thought they might get back together - he told me he’d assured her they wouldn’t.

Because of all that, I’ve said that I want him to sit down with his ex and clarify exactly what’s going on and that I think it’s time for him tell his daughters that he’s seeing me - but he’s said no.

He says they’ll always hate me because they’re close to their mum and won’t like the fact that he’s moved on. That there’s no point upsetting them unnecessarily because they’ll never meet me and I won’t be part of their lives.

He’s a fireman, and a few weeks ago he had a scary close call at work. He jokingly said to me after that if he’d died, I wouldn’t have been able to go to his funeral which really upset me.

I understand that he what’s to protect his daughters feelings and doesn’t want to look like the bad guy for leaving their mum, but after three years, I feel hurt and unimportant and like I’m his dirty secret and like he cares more about hurting their feelings than he does mine.

He’s saying I’ve got it all wrong, I’m thinking too much into it, and he’s effectively left his family and home for me and that should be enough and that proves how much he loves me. I feel very confused.

I’d love some advice please.

Thank you so much

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Frazzled2207 · 06/11/2021 08:28

under no circumstances would I enter into anything even close to a relationship with him unless he had ended his marriage officially and wasn’t living at home.

So did they divorce?

Honestly this is situation is ridiculous. You need fo end it today. The comment about not being allowed to go to his funeral should be the death knell for the relationship. You’re a mistress. Nothing else.

TheChip · 06/11/2021 08:29

Honestly, you deserve a much more secure relationship.

Tiredofbs123 · 06/11/2021 08:29

It does seem like the script OP.

Your post makes it clear that he has given you just enough to keep you quiet and make you feel like you’ve been ‘validated’, meeting work colleagues etc while keeping you away from where it really matters his daughters. And he’s happy to tell you that you will never meet them, because they’ll ‘hate’ you. What does he envisage your life like into the future? Is that what you want?

If (and only if) even part of what he is saying is true he’s an absolute coward and a weak and selfish man who just wants to have his cake and eat it and be damned with the long term fallout for all involved.

He is not worth it.

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 08:31

You’re so right. We are all in separate compartments

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Yirty · 06/11/2021 08:31

Personally it wouldn’t be for me and I would bring it to an end.

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 08:32

He’s both. Almost all firefighters bolster their income with a second job as they work 4 day/night shifts every 8 days

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TheChip · 06/11/2021 08:35

"Their income" even you don't see them as seperate.

TheChip · 06/11/2021 08:36

Ha sorry. Just realised you're talking about firefighters Grin

HelloDulling · 06/11/2021 08:36

There is only one person hindering this relationship, and it is not you! This is awful, OP, and it’s never going to change. End things this weekend.

AllyBama · 06/11/2021 08:40

OP even if he’s not seeing you on the side while still married to his ex, it doesn’t actually matter does it? Because in practice, that’s exactly what’s happening. He pretty much lives at her house, has all of his stuff there, won’t tell his kids about you and has a joint email account with her?

What actually are you doing? Do you really see this ending well? Stop wasting your precious years and wake up.

over2021 · 06/11/2021 08:45

Forget having two jobs, the bloke is living two lives!

Tuliptulip · 06/11/2021 08:49

Are they actually divorced?

Tiredofbs123 · 06/11/2021 08:49

The more I think about this the more angry I am on your behalf. I believe you when you say you made it clear he had to leave before you’d enter a relationship. He has then compartmentalised you and used your sense of fair play and morality to tie you into a situation where he can have and do exactly what he wants.

Skeumorph · 06/11/2021 08:51

I’d dump him and tell his wife he’s a cheat.

Pumpkinsonparade · 06/11/2021 08:51

A bluff to be blaming you for not being together at night..
I would be driving to his flat late on to confirm he really isn't there..
Then Ltb.
You are wasting your life op.

SpookyScarySkeletons · 06/11/2021 08:52

I'm still ConfusedConfusedConfused at the joint email account!

user1000000000009 · 06/11/2021 08:54

What do they need a joint email account for if his kids are much older?

I think the wife phoning your hotel was when she discovered your affair.

Since he's a fireman and a builder, I bet the flat he has is so he has a base that doesn't disturb his wife and adult kids when he gets in from night shift/long day.

He's given your the bare minimum and you are accepting this. After a 3 year relationship I would have expected for you to have met his children, close friends and family.

Chickychickydodah · 06/11/2021 08:55

I’m sorry but he’s still with her. If you want proof then tell him he’s got to store his tools and stuff at yours and tell the kids about you. My guessing he will panic and then you will find out the truth.

samesign · 06/11/2021 08:56

He's not your partner, he doesn't respect how you are feeling, to be treated as a secret from family in his life after 3 years. Sounds like he's doing too much than he should for his ex, seeing as they have adult children. It's a bit suspicious why she wants him back now, no smoke with fire, she's getting mixed signals from him at least or at worst he's still with her casually.

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 08:58

I’m not sure what I’m doing. I suppose I thought that the longer we were together the more he would extract himself, that he’d tell his kids and that maybe we’d move in together and he’d the remainder of move is stuff out. He’s retiring early next year, he’s getting a lump sum of money and we’d talked about him using it to buy a place in the country and us sharing both. If that we’re to happen then he’d have to tell them and it’s 6 months until he retires. But I guess I’m just fooling myself. He’s keeping us separate because he doesn’t want to upset the apple cart

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Novemberchild2 · 06/11/2021 09:00

@littlelokey

Also he pushes to see me more, he guilts me and says he’s lonely sitting in his small flat alone every evening and wants to come and hang out with me and have dinner etc. I’d love that too and I did tell my children I was seeing him and had him over a few times but I stopped because I wasn’t happy with the fact that he goes to his house/helps his ex and wouldn’t tell his kids. I said when he tells his daughters, then I’ll tell my kids it’s serious and he can start spending time at my place in the evenings. He argued that it’s different because I have no need to be around his kids but he does need to be around mine (I need to be hold for my 14 year old daughter) and that I’m hindering our relationship,
Just wow. He is using you. You are the bit on the side. He knows exactly what to say to keep you quiet and play along with him whilst he deceives his wife and children.

Please stop this. You deserve more.

Theuniverseandeverything · 06/11/2021 09:00

It doesn’t sound like they divorced. They obviously didn’t sort out a financial settlement if he’s still maintaining the family home. Also his comment about you not being able to go to the funeral.

If he will never tell them about you, then the relationship can’t progress and there’s no future for you as a couple.

I think you should end it and leave him to it.

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:00

I suggested storing his stuff at mine but I just don’t have the space and his house is nearer to his flat. I know he’s not sleeping with her but I think he’s looking after her and is still on husband duties

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TheChip · 06/11/2021 09:03

I wonder what excuses he pulled to his wife to explain the hotel situation.

littlelokey · 06/11/2021 09:04

No he got the flat just after lockdown. He has his own email but they did/do have a joint one still. I think somehow one of his cards was still linked to it and so she got an email or something.

Yeah maybe you’re right about her discovering the affair then but he had moved out by that stage. I helped him unpack

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