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Red Flags, or Am I Overreacting?

204 replies

thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 18:43

So I started seeing a guy that I met online three weeks ago. He is charming, and acted the perfect gentleman. He insisted on paying for everything, (even my parking ticket!) and insisted on doing the same for our dates. He even bought me flowers each time, and invested in a dressing gown, towel set, toothbrush and hot water bottle for his flat for when I eventually stayed. I thought it was all sweet. He seemed very nervous too.

Last weekend, we were supposed to meet Friday, but I got rushed to hospital with kidney stones. I was hospitalised over the weekend. He was very worried, and begged to come and see me, but I said there was no point because of covid restrictions. You aren't allowed to be accompanied in hospital at present, and I felt like crap, so I wanted my space. He proceeded to tell me that he wanted to come and camp outside the hospital in his car, and then said that he'd been talking to a nurse who worked in the same hospital, and how they weren't allowed to keep me in A+E (accident and emergency) for over 12 hours, blah blah. I told him that I was in the right place, but I felt unsettled by him having conversations with a nurse, and did not know if they were sharing details about me. I have ongoing mental health issues that I don't want discussed, and was worried that this nurse would be telling him.

When I came home on Sunday, I was tired and sick, and he kept asking to come and see me. I felt awful, so said no. He proceeded to send me messages every 30 minutes and on Monday, I woke up to a huge bunch of flowers and a teddy on my doorstep. Then I started to get coffees arriving throughout the day. I could not rest or relax, because the doorbell kept ringing. He sent me pictures of all the gifts he was buying me - bath salts, bubble bath, ornaments, statues, etc. he said they were all waiting for me. It all got too much. On Tuesday, I ventured out to get some milk, and suddenly got inundated with calls from him. It turned out that there was yet another coffee on the doorstep, and he wanted to know where I was. When I said I'd just popped out for milk, he went quiet and didn't say anything. Then I got more coffees arriving.

I felt really, really claustrophobic, and it set my anxiety off massively. I felt panicky, as well as sick, and told him that I needed some space because it was too much. He got upset and said he'd ordered me lots of gifts for the next day, and told me to throw them in the bin when they arrived. He kept saying that he didn't understand what he'd done wrong, and said he was just trying to be the boyfriend that I deserved. He keeps asking where he stands, and I keep telling him that I've already told him.

I have spoken to him since, and he still does not understand what he has done wrong. It feels like he won't get it. It also turns out that he's been in prison for manslaughter - he attacked someone for hitting his previous girlfriend, or so he says. He told me this on the second date, and I am not a judgemental person at all, but I am started to worrying that these behaviours are dangerous. Some of my friends think he's just being caring, but others are saying run a mile. I have put the breaks on, but am wondering what others think? I have a horrible habit of attracting abusive partners, so I am very very worried, and perhaps I am worrying too much?

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nolovelost · 17/07/2021 20:00

Click on the 3 dots next to the name within the email. It gives the option at the bottom of the drop down box.

me4real · 17/07/2021 20:27

CurryLover55:- One word - RUN!!

thats three words

@MinionLover79 No, as the 'RUN' is after a hyphen , so it is the one word being referred to by what's before the hyphen.

3 words would be like :-

'One word- Time to run!' Grin


Well done again @thewinterqueen x

PumpkinKlNG · 17/07/2021 20:30

Stop reading them.

Sally2791 · 17/07/2021 20:45

This man is not safe. Run and don’t look back. Change your locks if he has a key.

xsquared · 17/07/2021 20:48

Report him to police. He's had his chance.

TrueRefuge · 17/07/2021 21:07

So sorry for everything that's happening here OP. I would suggest setting up a forwarding rule so that his emails go to your brother not you (assuming you trust your brother and feel he's been supportive of you). That way, you have a written record, but you don't need to see anything or worry about checking. You can ask your brother not to mention any emails that come in unless they scare or worry him and he feels further action is appropriate.

You clearly are working on your boundaries and heard that gut instinct rumble: it's just now about validating it and taking action rather than second-guessing yourself.

Take care Flowers

QueenBee52 · 18/07/2021 05:25

@thewinterqueen

I don't think I can block him on email?

of course you can

ShimmyYay · 18/07/2021 06:34

His behaviour sounds controlling in a passive aggressive way. Very carefully and gently let him down. Make sure someone close by knows his details in case he start to stalk you

GreyPaw · 18/07/2021 08:47

Please don't block him on email.

I know it's counter-intuitive, but it can significantly increase risk to block a stalker on all communication platforms. A stalker gets a fix from making contact, and if they can't make contact remotely they will look for other ways to do it, and usually that means getting closer in person.

It's a very very good idea to leave an email address or social media platform open for him to send messages to. It's more likely to keep him at bay physically, and it also works as a way to collect evidence. However DO NOT REPLY.

This is the advice we give out to all our stalking victims where I work (domestic abuse / stalking agency) because time after time the situation escalates alarmingly after a victim blocks the perpetrator everywhere.

Have you managed to get in touch with a local domestic abuse agency or someone like Paladin? They can help with a personalised safety plan.

GreyPaw · 18/07/2021 08:49

I should have added: if you keep a social media platform open, don't use a current one. There's too much a risk there are things like location tracking on there, or just hints about what you might be doing and where you are. I've had clients who have used a decoy account really successfully. However keeping the email address open is far easier. Setup a rule that diverts the emails into a separate folder so you don't have to see them, but keep all evidence and don't reply.

PumpkinKlNG · 18/07/2021 12:09

You don’t have to block his email but why keep reading them? If he was going to show up I’m sure he would have by now tbh you posted this like 3 weeks ago. Did claires law ever get back?

thelastgoldeneagle · 18/07/2021 12:27

Run a mile.

He's not listening to you. He's putting what he wants first. Love bombing. He sounds unhinged.

Iwannamove · 18/07/2021 15:43

Or he could be a lonely man without social skills. Not everyone is a monster.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/07/2021 15:46

That made me feel the same way I do when I hear the 12 Days of Christmas.

Suffocated.

Blech

PumpkinKlNG · 18/07/2021 15:52

Iwannamove are you commenting on the right thread? he’s been done for manslaughter

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/07/2021 15:54

Oh my word. Sorry OP. I'm on the app and it has been playing up recently, not scrolling to the real end of a thread.

Stay safe. Keep those emails and push for that Claire's Law disclosure. Ring 111 and tell them he is still harrassing you - he is, you told him not to contact you again.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/07/2021 15:55

@Iwannamove

Or he could be a lonely man without social skills. Not everyone is a monster.
So... women need to be nice, no matter what the possible danger to themselves, in order to make inept men happy?

Nope!

Iwannamove · 18/07/2021 16:23

@CuriousaboutSamphire No. I just think the OP, although right to cut contact and be careful, doesn't need to panic. I feel that it's an uncomfortable situation, but people are making it sound like a horror story.

thewinterqueen · 22/07/2021 17:03

Hey lovelies.

So just an update - I did qualify for a disclosure under Clare's Law, and let's just say that I did the right thing by running a mile. Thank you for all the advice, and for making me feel less foolish about the situation.

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ItPearl · 22/07/2021 17:08

Oh wow. Close shave. Exhale and treat yourself to simething nice xxx

xsquared · 22/07/2021 17:35

Oh well done op. I'm so relieved and proud of you.

Now go and enjoy your freedom. 🍷🌷

NotaCoolMum · 22/07/2021 17:43

Good for you OP!! He sounds crazy! I think you’re stronger than you think you are x

Queenie6655 · 22/07/2021 17:48

Well done op

Wish I had done that with my ex

Would have found out he tried to murder his ex wife

forumdonkey · 22/07/2021 20:55

@thewinterqueen

Hey lovelies.

So just an update - I did qualify for a disclosure under Clare's Law, and let's just say that I did the right thing by running a mile. Thank you for all the advice, and for making me feel less foolish about the situation.

Don't feel foolish, we've all been too forgiving and kind to people who don't deserve it or we shouldn't have. It's a life lesson.

Has he left you alone?

thewinterqueen · 22/07/2021 21:05

I have not heard from him since the email on Saturday, but the police have filed his actions as harassment for now. If he continues, they will pay him a visit.

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