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Red Flags, or Am I Overreacting?

204 replies

thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 18:43

So I started seeing a guy that I met online three weeks ago. He is charming, and acted the perfect gentleman. He insisted on paying for everything, (even my parking ticket!) and insisted on doing the same for our dates. He even bought me flowers each time, and invested in a dressing gown, towel set, toothbrush and hot water bottle for his flat for when I eventually stayed. I thought it was all sweet. He seemed very nervous too.

Last weekend, we were supposed to meet Friday, but I got rushed to hospital with kidney stones. I was hospitalised over the weekend. He was very worried, and begged to come and see me, but I said there was no point because of covid restrictions. You aren't allowed to be accompanied in hospital at present, and I felt like crap, so I wanted my space. He proceeded to tell me that he wanted to come and camp outside the hospital in his car, and then said that he'd been talking to a nurse who worked in the same hospital, and how they weren't allowed to keep me in A+E (accident and emergency) for over 12 hours, blah blah. I told him that I was in the right place, but I felt unsettled by him having conversations with a nurse, and did not know if they were sharing details about me. I have ongoing mental health issues that I don't want discussed, and was worried that this nurse would be telling him.

When I came home on Sunday, I was tired and sick, and he kept asking to come and see me. I felt awful, so said no. He proceeded to send me messages every 30 minutes and on Monday, I woke up to a huge bunch of flowers and a teddy on my doorstep. Then I started to get coffees arriving throughout the day. I could not rest or relax, because the doorbell kept ringing. He sent me pictures of all the gifts he was buying me - bath salts, bubble bath, ornaments, statues, etc. he said they were all waiting for me. It all got too much. On Tuesday, I ventured out to get some milk, and suddenly got inundated with calls from him. It turned out that there was yet another coffee on the doorstep, and he wanted to know where I was. When I said I'd just popped out for milk, he went quiet and didn't say anything. Then I got more coffees arriving.

I felt really, really claustrophobic, and it set my anxiety off massively. I felt panicky, as well as sick, and told him that I needed some space because it was too much. He got upset and said he'd ordered me lots of gifts for the next day, and told me to throw them in the bin when they arrived. He kept saying that he didn't understand what he'd done wrong, and said he was just trying to be the boyfriend that I deserved. He keeps asking where he stands, and I keep telling him that I've already told him.

I have spoken to him since, and he still does not understand what he has done wrong. It feels like he won't get it. It also turns out that he's been in prison for manslaughter - he attacked someone for hitting his previous girlfriend, or so he says. He told me this on the second date, and I am not a judgemental person at all, but I am started to worrying that these behaviours are dangerous. Some of my friends think he's just being caring, but others are saying run a mile. I have put the breaks on, but am wondering what others think? I have a horrible habit of attracting abusive partners, so I am very very worried, and perhaps I am worrying too much?

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IeatPotNoodles · 03/07/2021 18:55

Please block and move on, and maybe also report to the police (harassment?)

chickenyhead · 03/07/2021 18:56

Erm, I'm sorry, he is not behaving reasonably. He is stalkerish and persistent.

You are being made to feel guilty for being ill.

He is acting as though you are a possession whose compliance He is purchasing.

To outsiders He may look sweet and caring, but from the inside this behaviour is suffocating and controlling.

Ldelivrries trap you at home.

BrioLover · 03/07/2021 18:57

RUN

Normal people at the beginning of dating so not go and buy stuff for staying over. They also check in a few times when a hospital stay is needed and maybe send a single nice thing like flowers or chocolates. That's it. This is nuts.

baileys6904 · 03/07/2021 18:59

Dump and get cctv

Umberellatheweatha · 03/07/2021 19:02

Holy shit he is a lunatic.

thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 19:05

Thank you for your thoughts. I also agree that I need to run a mile, but some of my friends made me doubt myself by stating he was trying to be nice, and that it might be coming from a good place. I definitely worried about the prison thing, but he presented it in such a way that he had changed. Maybe I'm just gullible. I don't know.

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FlorencenotRatchet · 03/07/2021 19:06

Op. This is not normal behaviour and frankly quite scary. I can envisage him turning up on your doorstep before too long.
I would seriously suggest putting a stop to this before it gets too out of hand.

Ozberry · 03/07/2021 19:10

Did he present as though he’d changed though? It sounds like he justified, or at least minimised what he did.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 03/07/2021 19:11

Definitely you need to dump him, and be very clear that you do not want any further contact.

I second getting CCTV and I'm afraid that you need to watch your back because he sounds deranged and seriously dangerous.

Please do a Clares Law request, and tell the police why you are doing it. Do not let him know you are doing it. Do not respond at all once you've told him you don't want a relationship or any further contact, and don't be afraid to involve the police if he won't get the message (which I suspect he won't).

And perhaps note the friends who think he is being caring and kind and never take their advice about relationships ever again. You are clearly vulnerable and you need to learn to trust your instincts, and only trust other people's advice who have proven they have good instincts as well.

Good luck Thanks

thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 19:11

He did. He went and joined the army afterwards, I think, although I'm not entirely sure what to believe at this point. I know he's definitely been in the army though.

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Mumshappy · 03/07/2021 19:15

I would contacr the police for a request for information under Claires Law asap. Hes not going to accept you ending the relationship. He will be a loose cannon. Is there anyone else you can stay with? Do the freedom programme as soon as a place is available. You need to get this man out of your life. Id change all my contact details too. Hes going to bombard you with calls, texts and emails.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 03/07/2021 19:16

OP - honestly, it really doesn't matter if he's changed since he killed someone. He doesn't respect your boundaries and his is not normal behaviour. It wouldn't be normal behaviour if he'd been your boyfriend for months even, but for 3 weeks in its seriously not ok. It is classic 'love bombing' which is the first move in the abuser handbook to reel you in and make you feel like you owe them something.

I can highly recommend The Freedom Programme for learning what to look out for and helping you to hone and trust your instincts.

AOwlAOwlAOwl · 03/07/2021 19:17

Mate I would be ringing 101 and asking for a Claire's law check. He is sounding really unhinged.

toocold54 · 03/07/2021 19:18

I think he could have just been being nice but if you ask someone to back off and they don’t respect that then that is a big problem.

I would be completely honest with him and say everything. That you appreciate everything but it is too much and moving too fast and he needs to back off as you feel smothered. If he doesn’t respect that then just cut it off.

To be honest you have kind of allowed this behaviour. If someone I barely knew brought me a dressing gown for when I stayed over I’d have run a mile!

toocold54 · 03/07/2021 19:19

I agree with the PP who said to check Claire’s law too!

I actually don’t think he’ll be physically abusive so it might not show anything but anyone who moves that fast could easily be mentally abusive.

chickenyhead · 03/07/2021 19:31

3 WEEKS!!!!!

Not healthy or normal. Massive red flags.

But us women must be grateful, kind, trusting and compliant.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 03/07/2021 19:31

Wow toocold victim blaming and completely spurious assumption that a man convicted of manslaughter won't be physically abusive ConfusedConfusedConfused? How can you possibly say this, based on his batshit love bombing? My ex behaved similarly but actually was more restrained and he ended up being physically violent.

Though it is a good point that if he hasn't been reported in the past, or if he has but it wasn't progressed for whatever reason, then Clares Law will not return any result. I did one and it was clean. Didn't stop him hurting me. Even if it doesn't give any results OP really needs to trust her instincts and ditch him.

cordelia16 · 03/07/2021 19:32

How did he get your address? If you gave it to him, think srsly about why you would do that after knowing him for only three weeks!!

If he found it on his own, that's a whole other level of creepy. Agree about the CCTV.

CatCup · 03/07/2021 19:33

Run.

thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 19:37

I have now applied for more information on the Clare's Law online form, and hopefully will hear something back from the police soon.

I did not want to give him my address, but he pleaded for it cos he wanted to send me flowers. I thought he was being sweet. I do kinda live in the middle of nowhere, so it is almost impossible to find. I do regret it now, but I did not truly think he would send me so many things. I know that I've probably done things that I shouldn't, but I wanted to trust him. I always so suspicious of everyone usually, and I wanted this is be different. Please don't victim blame me. I am a recovered of sexual abuse as a child, so my boundaries are a bit off, but I'm trying my best.

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thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 19:38

Sorry for above spelling mistakes. Was feeling emotional.

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HoobleDooble · 03/07/2021 19:40

The constant deliveries are his way of checking where you are at all times. Just look how he reacted when you went out for milk, after only knowing you for a few weeks where you are is absolutely none of his business!

Big red flags. Please ignore your friends who say he's being nice, he's not, he'll want some kind of repayment for all the things he's done for you and bought for you.

Tell everyone you trust exactly what's happening and let them help you.

PumpkinKlNG · 03/07/2021 19:40

Why apply for Claire’s law? Just end it? If it comes back “clear” will you keep seeing him?

Changechangychange · 03/07/2021 19:41

He sounds deranged. Run!

toocold54 · 03/07/2021 19:42

Wow toocold victim blaming and completely spurious assumption that a man convicted of manslaughter won't be physically abusive confusedconfusedconfused? How can you possibly say this, based on his batshit love bombing? My ex behaved similarly but actually was more restrained and he ended up being physically violent.

I did not mean my post to come across as victim blaming at all. I apologise to OP if it did.
I meant that after only 3 weeks nearly all of his behaviour is strange and unacceptable but because you allowed it you need to explain that you feel smothered and that he needs to back off because he is saying he doesn’t understand what has he’s doing differently.