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Red Flags, or Am I Overreacting?

204 replies

thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 18:43

So I started seeing a guy that I met online three weeks ago. He is charming, and acted the perfect gentleman. He insisted on paying for everything, (even my parking ticket!) and insisted on doing the same for our dates. He even bought me flowers each time, and invested in a dressing gown, towel set, toothbrush and hot water bottle for his flat for when I eventually stayed. I thought it was all sweet. He seemed very nervous too.

Last weekend, we were supposed to meet Friday, but I got rushed to hospital with kidney stones. I was hospitalised over the weekend. He was very worried, and begged to come and see me, but I said there was no point because of covid restrictions. You aren't allowed to be accompanied in hospital at present, and I felt like crap, so I wanted my space. He proceeded to tell me that he wanted to come and camp outside the hospital in his car, and then said that he'd been talking to a nurse who worked in the same hospital, and how they weren't allowed to keep me in A+E (accident and emergency) for over 12 hours, blah blah. I told him that I was in the right place, but I felt unsettled by him having conversations with a nurse, and did not know if they were sharing details about me. I have ongoing mental health issues that I don't want discussed, and was worried that this nurse would be telling him.

When I came home on Sunday, I was tired and sick, and he kept asking to come and see me. I felt awful, so said no. He proceeded to send me messages every 30 minutes and on Monday, I woke up to a huge bunch of flowers and a teddy on my doorstep. Then I started to get coffees arriving throughout the day. I could not rest or relax, because the doorbell kept ringing. He sent me pictures of all the gifts he was buying me - bath salts, bubble bath, ornaments, statues, etc. he said they were all waiting for me. It all got too much. On Tuesday, I ventured out to get some milk, and suddenly got inundated with calls from him. It turned out that there was yet another coffee on the doorstep, and he wanted to know where I was. When I said I'd just popped out for milk, he went quiet and didn't say anything. Then I got more coffees arriving.

I felt really, really claustrophobic, and it set my anxiety off massively. I felt panicky, as well as sick, and told him that I needed some space because it was too much. He got upset and said he'd ordered me lots of gifts for the next day, and told me to throw them in the bin when they arrived. He kept saying that he didn't understand what he'd done wrong, and said he was just trying to be the boyfriend that I deserved. He keeps asking where he stands, and I keep telling him that I've already told him.

I have spoken to him since, and he still does not understand what he has done wrong. It feels like he won't get it. It also turns out that he's been in prison for manslaughter - he attacked someone for hitting his previous girlfriend, or so he says. He told me this on the second date, and I am not a judgemental person at all, but I am started to worrying that these behaviours are dangerous. Some of my friends think he's just being caring, but others are saying run a mile. I have put the breaks on, but am wondering what others think? I have a horrible habit of attracting abusive partners, so I am very very worried, and perhaps I am worrying too much?

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Tenohfour · 07/07/2021 03:57

He couldn't be more red flaggy. Run!

criminallyinsane · 07/07/2021 05:42

This is a very disturbing post. Statues??? My mind is boggling.
Ornaments?? Yuk. All to his taste then as how does he know what you like/don't like yet? and a HOT WATER BOTTLE in JULY ?? wtf?? Do you live at the North Pole? Maybe he assumes that now he's 'got' you you're together forever and so you'll need it to keep you warm when he's back in prison for 'protecting you' aka accidentally murdering the next man who looks at you 'wrong' and... most mind boggling of it all -- YOU ONLY MET HIM THREE WEEKS AGO!! You were out of his sight/control so he wants to camp outside the hospital???? Off the scale not normal. Stalker behaviour.

I don't have a history of attracting anything other than good men and so from that perspective can confidently say he's WAY too intense - not to mention obsessive, creepy and scary. Manslaughter where a previous girlfriend was involved??? Jesus Christ. She's probably still in therapy.
Set your bar a lot higher than that. It was a test for him to tell you about that so early on. I imagine there have been other tests too if you think about it.

Look to his history and definitely judge him!!!!! It's you protecting yourself and does not make you a 'bad person' - it makes you a SAFE person. These behaviours escalate. Listen to your instincts and get rid TODAY. PLEASE. He sounds very dangerous and unhinged and anyone with normal boundaries would have run a mile already. He HAS to lovebomb because it's a smokescreen and stops the latest victim and her friends noticing and seeing the rest of his behaviour for what it is. It is him establishing a position of control and has NOTHING to do with love as you deserve to know it. Once he thinks he has achieved that control, all that so-called 'love' will evaporate. You are the proverbial boiling frog and still in the process of the water heating up. Get away from him. He is no good for you. Please log his behaviour and report it to the police if he refuses to be dumped, get rid, block and KEEP SAFE.

criminallyinsane · 07/07/2021 05:47

He didn't even want you to be in the hospital when you were in a huge amount of pain which was definitely the right place for you to be, and if you suddenly go out to get milk and then are immediately bombarded with calls he's probably put some tracking app on your phone or he is watching you. You are absolutely right to be very very worried. Do not listen to his pleas, and block block block.

readingismycardio · 07/07/2021 05:51

You lost me at "dressing gown". Run as fast as you can.

Tempusfudgeit · 07/07/2021 07:32

Complete side track here - but OP, please don't drink lots of strong coffee if you get kidney stones! I hope your head is clearer now you have had the benefit of lots of other peoples experiences. Have you shared what has happened with your brother so he can support you?

starsigns28 · 07/07/2021 08:15

He sounds so obsessed with you but not in a good way. Please take care as he sounds like the sort of man that will stalk you - you may need to get the police involved and with his track record and being known to the police it may lead to an injunction. I would not continue any contact with this man as others have advised RED FLAG

thewinterqueen · 07/07/2021 08:19

I only ever saw him three times...which makes it scarier, doesn't it?

The delivery driver was calling him to say I'm not in, because he thought it was my telephone number...

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starsigns28 · 07/07/2021 08:33

Have you heard from him since? Or have you cut all communication?

thewinterqueen · 07/07/2021 08:52

I haven't heard anything since the random emails. Thank god!

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user8984277 · 07/07/2021 08:56

@thewinterqueen I doubt you meet the threshold for Clare's Law.

I was just thinking maybe unblock his number so as to keep a log of texts/ calls to build up a picture of harassment.

wobblywinelover · 07/07/2021 13:44

OP keep records of everything you can, screenshots and don't delete the emails. If you hear from him again ring 101 for advice and log a complaint with them, then should you need help from the police (god forbid) there will be a bit of a paper trail of what has happened so far. Please keep yourself safe and be mindful that he could start following you covertly or spying on your house. I don't mean to scare you but please don't let your guard down, he sounds completely unhinged. I hope you are feeling better after your kidney stones, what a nightmare! Oh and I don't recommend internet dating either but that's another thread! Keep safe and sorry you've been through this

AmberIsACertainty · 07/07/2021 14:43

People talking like your brother can protect you. The last person that came between him and a girlfriend is dead. And a billion delivery drivers know the location of your home. Won't be too hard for him to find it if he wants to. Hope he leaves you in peace OP.

He tried to get you out of hospital just because he wanted your company, it was nothing to do with kindness. Buying people endless gifts they've got no choice in isn't kind. If you wanted an ornament, coffee or dressing gown wouldn't you want to choose which one? Throwing a tantrum when you tell him not to buy stuff (ie when you said No) isn't kind. He's unhinged. He could be waiting for you to "calm down" and "get over it" so things return to how they were and when he realizes that isn't going to happen that's the dangerous time.

thewinterqueen · 07/07/2021 18:19

@AmberIsACertainty

People talking like your brother can protect you. The last person that came between him and a girlfriend is dead. And a billion delivery drivers know the location of your home. Won't be too hard for him to find it if he wants to. Hope he leaves you in peace OP.

He tried to get you out of hospital just because he wanted your company, it was nothing to do with kindness. Buying people endless gifts they've got no choice in isn't kind. If you wanted an ornament, coffee or dressing gown wouldn't you want to choose which one? Throwing a tantrum when you tell him not to buy stuff (ie when you said No) isn't kind. He's unhinged. He could be waiting for you to "calm down" and "get over it" so things return to how they were and when he realizes that isn't going to happen that's the dangerous time.

Agreed. I haven't heard anything from him in a few days though, so I am hoping that the worst has passed and that he's finally got the message. He knows that I live with my brother too, and my dogs would certainly stand up for me if anything untoward happened.

I haven't heard anything from the police regarding my Clare's Law application, which is a tad disappointing.

This entire event has put me off internet dating. I seem to meet so many creeps on there. About 4 years ago, I met a guy who forced himself onto me against my car after the first date. I kinda gave up on internet dating back then, but thought I was being unreasonable, and that not all men are like that. Sigh. I seem to attract the crazies...

OP posts:
me4real · 09/07/2021 02:40

I think you were right to block on everything, I don't see that anything would be gained by keeping anything open. Well done. I think it's possible to block on email more than you have, too.

JustATypo · 09/07/2021 10:22

Run very very fast. Tell him you’re not interested, he’s being creepy and scaring you, then block him.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 16/07/2021 17:50

How are things @thewinterqueen? Hope all ok Thanks

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 16/07/2021 18:07

Overreacting??? Honestly do you have no boundaries? This is classic insane stalker material and he was probably in prison for killing his ex girlfriend. Call the police now.

MinionLover79 · 16/07/2021 20:27

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VanGoSunflowers · 16/07/2021 20:30

@makinganavalon

Hiya, I have no experience in this but I see a red flag in the fact that when you asked for space, he did not respect your right to space at a difficult time and continued pushing it. The gifts albeit it in my opinion slightly creepy is not what would worry me here, it's the reaction to your request to stop with them.
So much this.

He isn’t respectful of your requests for space. THAT is the major red flag here.

VanGoSunflowers · 16/07/2021 20:32

Sigh. I seem to attract the crazies...

DO NOT blame yourself OP. This is not your fault.

DottyDotty91 · 16/07/2021 23:05

I’m sorry but I can’t believe you even had to ask Confused Hmm

Why on earth would you see this man after finding out about the manslaughter??!

thewinterqueen · 17/07/2021 18:36

So, he made contact again today via email. He sent one line - 'Hi. Do I at least get a reason as to what happened?'

I am not responding.

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nolovelost · 17/07/2021 19:35

Why haven't you blocked him on email? He's a nutter sending that.

lompolo · 17/07/2021 19:46

Contact police and report him

thewinterqueen · 17/07/2021 19:54

I don't think I can block him on email?

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