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Red Flags, or Am I Overreacting?

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thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 18:43

So I started seeing a guy that I met online three weeks ago. He is charming, and acted the perfect gentleman. He insisted on paying for everything, (even my parking ticket!) and insisted on doing the same for our dates. He even bought me flowers each time, and invested in a dressing gown, towel set, toothbrush and hot water bottle for his flat for when I eventually stayed. I thought it was all sweet. He seemed very nervous too.

Last weekend, we were supposed to meet Friday, but I got rushed to hospital with kidney stones. I was hospitalised over the weekend. He was very worried, and begged to come and see me, but I said there was no point because of covid restrictions. You aren't allowed to be accompanied in hospital at present, and I felt like crap, so I wanted my space. He proceeded to tell me that he wanted to come and camp outside the hospital in his car, and then said that he'd been talking to a nurse who worked in the same hospital, and how they weren't allowed to keep me in A+E (accident and emergency) for over 12 hours, blah blah. I told him that I was in the right place, but I felt unsettled by him having conversations with a nurse, and did not know if they were sharing details about me. I have ongoing mental health issues that I don't want discussed, and was worried that this nurse would be telling him.

When I came home on Sunday, I was tired and sick, and he kept asking to come and see me. I felt awful, so said no. He proceeded to send me messages every 30 minutes and on Monday, I woke up to a huge bunch of flowers and a teddy on my doorstep. Then I started to get coffees arriving throughout the day. I could not rest or relax, because the doorbell kept ringing. He sent me pictures of all the gifts he was buying me - bath salts, bubble bath, ornaments, statues, etc. he said they were all waiting for me. It all got too much. On Tuesday, I ventured out to get some milk, and suddenly got inundated with calls from him. It turned out that there was yet another coffee on the doorstep, and he wanted to know where I was. When I said I'd just popped out for milk, he went quiet and didn't say anything. Then I got more coffees arriving.

I felt really, really claustrophobic, and it set my anxiety off massively. I felt panicky, as well as sick, and told him that I needed some space because it was too much. He got upset and said he'd ordered me lots of gifts for the next day, and told me to throw them in the bin when they arrived. He kept saying that he didn't understand what he'd done wrong, and said he was just trying to be the boyfriend that I deserved. He keeps asking where he stands, and I keep telling him that I've already told him.

I have spoken to him since, and he still does not understand what he has done wrong. It feels like he won't get it. It also turns out that he's been in prison for manslaughter - he attacked someone for hitting his previous girlfriend, or so he says. He told me this on the second date, and I am not a judgemental person at all, but I am started to worrying that these behaviours are dangerous. Some of my friends think he's just being caring, but others are saying run a mile. I have put the breaks on, but am wondering what others think? I have a horrible habit of attracting abusive partners, so I am very very worried, and perhaps I am worrying too much?

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AdaFuckingShelby · 03/07/2021 19:42

Whatever the outcome of the Claire's law enquiry ditch him. He's way too intense.

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 03/07/2021 19:44

Definitely do a Clares Law application and get a ring doorbell. They're very easy to install and will provide an excellent record of any ongoing harassment, would you need one.

I'd also suggest reading Gift of Fear [[https://amzn.to/3qI5HEK]] - it's been really helpful to me in overcoming those patriarchal expectations that as a woman, my comfort and safety should go out the window because a MAN is telling me that he is being nice to me, so I'm not allowed to "embarrass him" by setting boundaries, what am I, some sort of bitch?

This man is all kinds of wrong. Your gut is screaming at you that he's a wrong'un. Do not let social conditioning stifle that voice. It's trying to keep you alive and unharmed.

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Ludo19 · 03/07/2021 19:44

He told you he killed someone on your second date and you can only go by his story?? You thought that was OK to continue and not be judgemental? All what he's done since then is frankly scary. You need to seriously work on your self esteem. This man could potentially be very dangerous, he sounds intense and possessive. If I were you I'd turn my back on him.

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thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 19:45

@PumpkinKlNG

Why apply for Claire’s law? Just end it? If it comes back “clear” will you keep seeing him?

I have ended it! But he keeps finding ways to contact me!
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HerbErtlinger · 03/07/2021 19:45

Bloody hell. I never comment on these but your post was genuinely worrying. Run and don't look back

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Qwertywertyisme · 03/07/2021 19:46

I'm sorry for your experience and I know you say your judgement is off but seriously 😒 you stayed the night with a guy at his place AFTER he'd admitted killing someone?? Even with off judgement that cannot be normal.

If what he says is true (the manslaughter) it sounds like he gets super possessive and obsessed over the woman in his life....enough to kill for her.

I'd personally go into the police station and explain this whole situation and tell them you are scared.

Tell him you are not ready for a relationship after all.

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Geanna2 · 03/07/2021 19:46

Jeeez talk about massive drip feed..... Oh and by the way, he's been in prison for manslaughter.... Christ almighty wake up!

Perhaps invest a little time verifying his story. I once got involved with someone who told me on the second date he once went to prison for GBH. Turned out he was jailed for sexually assaulting a minor, but in his head pretending it was violent crime made him feel slightly further up the food chain than the kiddy diddler he really was.

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 03/07/2021 19:47

Sorry, link correctly formatted
The Gift of Fear
amzn.to/3qI5HEK

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chickenyhead · 03/07/2021 19:47

@thewinterqueen

I have now applied for more information on the Clare's Law online form, and hopefully will hear something back from the police soon.

I did not want to give him my address, but he pleaded for it cos he wanted to send me flowers. I thought he was being sweet. I do kinda live in the middle of nowhere, so it is almost impossible to find. I do regret it now, but I did not truly think he would send me so many things. I know that I've probably done things that I shouldn't, but I wanted to trust him. I always so suspicious of everyone usually, and I wanted this is be different. Please don't victim blame me. I am a recovered of sexual abuse as a child, so my boundaries are a bit off, but I'm trying my best.

Scary OP Flowers

I think you need to let someone know your fears IRL. Living remotely is scary. Anyone local you trust?
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Geanna2 · 03/07/2021 19:47

Then keep finding ways of blocking him, like reporting him for stalking.

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Ritascornershop · 03/07/2021 19:47

I’m so glad you’ve done a Clare’s Law request, well done! My boundaries are not great either, but he is definitely a lunatic. That amount of stuff is way past normal. The bathrobe within 3 weeks is way too presumptuous, like he was firmly attaching you to him within weeks of meeting. The wanting to stay in the car park, the constant coffees, all of it really. He’s not normal.

Personally I’ve come to the conclusion that in the unlikely event I ever meet someone I want to spend time with I will not tell them about past abuse as it alerts them that your boundaries can be pushed past. It might not happen at first, but it will happen. I’m going to do my best impression of a woman who’s never been emotionally or physically abused and present strong and see if that attracts a better class of fella.

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Iamaperiwinkle · 03/07/2021 19:48

@PumpkinKlNG

Wait I just missed the end bit?? You were ok with dating him after you found out he had killed someone? Are you ok 😐

FFS he murdered someone and told you and is love bombing you and he knows where you live - tell him to stop and inform the police
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thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 19:53

I live with my brother, and we already have cctv, so I feel secure. I have broken things off with him, and we have been broken up since the gift bombing on Tuesday. I am working hard on my boundaries, but it is very difficult when you've been sexually abused as a child. I would not wish it on my worst enemy.

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BewareTheBeardedDragon · 03/07/2021 20:17

@PumpkinKlNG

Why apply for Claire’s law? Just end it? If it comes back “clear” will you keep seeing him?

Agree that OP needs to end it regardless of the result, but if it does come back with info it will inform OP as to the level of threat he poses and may continue to pose.
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PumpkinKlNG · 03/07/2021 20:19

And if it comes back “clear” I wonder if she will take that as oh well he isn’t that bad then? Her boundaries are obviously non existent

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chickenyhead · 03/07/2021 20:21

She came on here BECAUSE she sensed it wasn't right. She has said they are split now and she struggles with boundaries due to abuse.

Please be kind.

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BewareTheBeardedDragon · 03/07/2021 20:23

Sorry OP - posted my last before seeing your updates. You are doing all the right things, this is not your fault - at all. None of it. You are trusting your instincts and acting on them which is amazing. Is your brother supportive?

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thewinterqueen · 03/07/2021 20:25

@PumpkinKlNG

And if it comes back “clear” I wonder if she will take that as oh well he isn’t that bad then? Her boundaries are obviously non existent

Clearly you aren't reading the thread. I've already broken up with him. I am sorry that you're so judgmental and unkind. I am a survivor of abuse, as stated previously, so my boundaries are skewed. I have already acknowledged that.
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Geanna2 · 03/07/2021 20:26

@chickenyhead

She came on here BECAUSE she sensed it wasn't right. She has said they are split now and she struggles with boundaries due to abuse.

Please be kind.

He told her he'd been to prison for manslaughter and she didn't 'sense' anything was wrong with that, so much do that she continued seeing him and only 'sensed' something wasn't right a considerable amount of time afterwards. I'd seriously be questioning my 'sense' of judge of character by now. Who in their right mind continues a relationship AFTER a revelation like being jailed for manslaughter?
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PumpkinKlNG · 03/07/2021 20:27

That was my point the murder didn’t put her off just him sending loads of coffees Confused maybe give dating a rest for a long time?

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mindutopia · 03/07/2021 20:27

Fuck no, that’s terrifying.

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ElspethFlashman · 03/07/2021 20:30

You haven't Googled him??

Surely manslaughter would throw up some search result.

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Movinghouseatlast · 03/07/2021 20:34

Fucking hell. This bloke is mental. He is obsessive and weird.

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2021DNA · 03/07/2021 20:37

Run for the hills. Don’t look back. Block his number. Never think of him again.

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shakeitoffshakeacocktail · 03/07/2021 20:44

Jesus

Paraphrasing your post

Great guy
Over invested early
No boundaries
Love bombing
Doesn't like the word 'no'
Doesn't 'understand' what he's done wrong

Etc etc

MANSLAUGHTER!!!
Over an 'ex'

Ffs OP get a bloody good security camera, have a safety net/ emergency contact

Run and never get back with him!

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