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Support thread for those in Emotionally Abusive Relationships 30

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CharlotteCollins · 10/08/2014 21:39

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
A check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
Why financial abuse is domestic violence Are you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
Warning signs you’re dating a loser Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie If you’re a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out - You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
Heart to heart - a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

What couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
Should I Stay or Should I Go bonus materials This is a site containing material for men who want to change - please don’t give him the link - print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
What you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

OP posts:
sugarcoatedthorns · 03/02/2015 21:21

its a really tough call Madi but it looks from the outside to have been the perfect opportunity to get him out, and maybe one to be ready for another time if you think you could do it then?

I often dream of winning the lottery! perhaps then i could be warm, relationships wouldn't be any different but i could do more with my life.

MadiSontRoy45 · 03/02/2015 21:40

If i won the lotto I could move out of here came home from work tonite didn't speak to me suits me I pray he finds someone else and runs away with them or movesvout because he's found another woman!

MadiSontRoy45 · 03/02/2015 22:14

He's gone to bed alleluia!he said that I never go to bed same time as him he always goes up first that a partner should go to bed same time that it frustrates him that I stay up watching telly or talking on my phone why can't I just go to bed and go asleep what's he's problem what's annoying about a partner not going bed same time as you!

sugarcoatedthorns · 03/02/2015 22:40

its cloying isn't it.. claustrophobic. and when i go to bed he watches stuff i hate on telly... well that was my life. Now i can lie in the middle of the bed with all my pillows and cosy stuff, and watch whatever I want Grin

hope you will too Madi very soon

MadiSontRoy45 · 04/02/2015 09:58

Not soon enough started again this morning saying the baby gonna choke on that toast you gave her,had my phone charging this morning if the baby gets hold that she get electric shock he don't care bout kids when he out drinking for two days I didn't even answer him!

ninilegsintheair · 08/02/2015 21:57

Really struggling to keep going here. He's being really nice. Too nice. I think I've chosen our estate agent so now I have th pressure of getting house ready for photos etc. I also have a new boss at work who is making life hard at a time when I need it to be easy.

Im permanently on edge and I dont feel mentally sound. This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I need words from someone to keep me tethered to the ground, please.

ponygirlcurtis · 08/02/2015 22:56

Sending strength nini - you know it's an act, although it's hard not to get drawn in by the sense of wishing it weren't and it were all real.

Can you speak to someone at work and let them know what you are going through? HR or something like that? Or your new boss, if you don't think they would use it against you (some people are just bastards like that). This is a tough time. Hold on. What about a visit to the doctor for something to help?

ninilegsintheair · 08/02/2015 23:50

Thanks Pony. Sadly our HR are draconian and I dont trust them. Work is not a place to show weakness at the moment. My work counsellor is on long term sick unfortunately. But I am going to the hospital for an unrelated health problem this week so I may raise this with them. Last time I went to the doc in the autumn his suggestion was to sign me off work (I refused) but he was reluctant to give me anything.

I think im just very tired.

sugarcoatedthorns · 09/02/2015 01:29

Keep strong lovely... you're on the last leg here.. your final run for home and freedom. You are bound to feel wobbly, just one thing at a time, cross each hurdle as you come to it, and resist all and any urge to feel anything but contempt for his 'niceness' which of course is a tactic too.

Sending you strengths, and some xx

ninilegsintheair · 09/02/2015 08:27

Thanks Thorns Smile

ninilegsintheair · 10/02/2015 08:49

And its all good - house goes on the market in a few days and hes back to being an arsehole. The world is in alignment once again Wink

ponygirlcurtis · 10/02/2015 09:30

Smile nini
Hope it gets some viewings quickly. Fingers crossed for you. Stay steadfast.

Colinbutterfly · 10/02/2015 18:18

nini stay brave

Just popping on because I don't have cause to use this thread anymore, some of you might remember me, I don't mind if not! I had lots of support from Alice, nini, pony girl and many others. I still think of you all and hope you are okay. I never forget the support I had, it was a lifeline.

My life has moved on significantly that I have cause to hang out with the pregnant vipers. I'm so glad my life has changed. It wasn't because I was brave getting out, it wasn't my choice...but staying out and not getting hoovered up, that was a choice. Every day just gets better these days.

Hang in there....better weather on the other side once you're out. I absolutely guarantee it.

Lots of love Flowers

ninilegsintheair · 10/02/2015 19:30

Oh Colin how wonderful to hear your life has taken such a good turn! You really deserve it after everything you went through. Much love to you and bump (how exciting!)

Thanks Smile

ponygirlcurtis · 10/02/2015 20:17

Colin what a lovely, lovely update, am totally made up for you and you little caterpillar-to-be. Smile
You went through the mill, I know, but you got away (it wasn't just his choice, it was because he sensed his control over you slipping), you stayed away, you did it, with bells on! Would love to hear the news when your little butterfly emerges. Hope your pregnancy is going well so far and you are keeping well and enjoying it. Have lots of Cake and Brew and some Flowers too.

sugarcoatedthorns · 10/02/2015 21:25

oh hey Colin wow! yes I remember.. you have really turned your life around and many congratulations Smile

SillyOldFox · 13/02/2015 23:09

colin just catching up on things, and so delighted to hear your news :) Happy endings can happen.

nini is the house on the market yet? Isn't it funny how you actually feel relieved when your husband is horrid to you! How many people would say that?!?

Wishing everyone a nice FW free weekend

sugarcoatedthorns · 14/02/2015 17:12

Can i say? Happy Valentines to all you lovelies big Grin enjoying it in whatever way you want (so long as its not about feeling over a piece of card arriving through your door or not, or needing to water some plant life).

Its a daily thing, and should be seen in action, and deed, words .. pah!

its a thing, yes it is.

hope you enjoying fox Smile

ninilegsintheair · 14/02/2015 20:10

House goes on the market in a few days Fox. I cant wait!

My FW has gone out 'looking for ladies' with his single friends. The theory being that single ladies will all be in pubs tonight. Hmm

Happy valentine's indeed. Fortunately we've never celebrated it so I'm not missing anything.

sugarcoatedthorns · 14/02/2015 20:28

put out a 'look out ladies' alert nini I often thinkthere should be some kind of 'FW OUT ON THE LOOSE' alert.

smotheroffive · 14/02/2015 20:55

Calling all vixens of the inn on the moors! Halloooooo? Who's out there?

I spent many a night in there niched in the lovely welcoming fireside, dog sleeping at foot.

I remember you nini, and Silverypussycat (fond of a puff round the back), Charlotte and my dear friend amazeballs, who rather self-effacingly just called herself maggieonthesofa (I think?), amongst many many others who were there through some of the most really really shit times for me, having a place to come to and escape the madness of the crazy situations was huge and something to cling to through the turmoil and terror.

For any that are reading this thread and needing to know it gets better, oh wow, it really does.

The self-belief they batter out of you is just, well, really don't under-estimate it, and the power of the head-fuck.

Oh and bounty and Pony and so many more.

so hoping that you are all doing well and liberating yourselves in all and every small/big way possible Smile

and yes, enjoy Valentines for your own sake Smile Wine Cake

ninilegsintheair · 14/02/2015 21:27

Hallooooo smother! Good to hear life is treating you well. You're welcome back to the Vixens anytime Smile Thanks

ponygirlcurtis · 14/02/2015 22:04

^waves to smothers >
Vixens is a 24/7 establishment, welcomes all-comers at any time of the day (or night) they need some refreshment or dirty-minded wotsits. And tonight of all nights. Often wonder what happened to lovely Maggie, always hoping she is ok.

Support thread for those in Emotionally Abusive Relationships 30
smotheroffive · 14/02/2015 23:33

.. is that photoshopped!??

ha ha! I remember those dirty-minded wotsits! ha

smotheroffive · 14/02/2015 23:37

Mink was it.. that always turned up with them? that one's just come back to me. Awwww... some good nights there having whatever we fancied