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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Support thread for those in Emotionally abusive relationships number 7

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foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 10:46

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
Financial abuse Are you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.

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foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 10:47

Welcome to thread number 7.

We are sorry if you need to be here, but glad that you can join the huge support network that is available here.....

old and new...come on in have a Brew

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foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 10:47

Sits down and waits for Hissy to accept award and for others to join in

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iwillbefree · 10/03/2012 10:51

Brew thanks fool just the way I like it too Grin

squeezes fat arse in next to fool and waits patiently.

xxx

foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 10:53

how are you IWBF....still peaceful round yours????

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iwillbefree · 10/03/2012 11:19

Hi fool,

still peaceful here at the moment, still confised over feelings/what to do etc.

I just cant see the woods for the trees at the moment. I have sort of a plan, save some money, really try and look after myself and the kids and not let the shit state of my marriage dominate every waking thought, which it is doing at the moment, to the detriment of working on myself/my plan IYKWIM.

How are you doing? your post about being unsure about who you are a few days ago really struck a chord with me. I feel exactly the same, I sometimes worry that if/when I divorce I will end up being like him because its all I know Sad.

IWBF xx

ThePinkPussycat · 10/03/2012 11:41

Hello all, thanks for starting thread fool

ThePinkPussycat · 10/03/2012 11:44

Top Financial Abuse link seems to be out of date.

I clicked on it for fun, honest, I know ex is a cocklodger.

LittleHouseofCamelias · 10/03/2012 12:17

Well done fool for the techie bit.
I am already exhausted and in need of the Brew

I've been up since six doing a very dirty wet job to do with my hobby. I should have asked for help instead of doing it all by myself. I am just so used to getting on with things it doesn't occur to me that people would help if I asked. Story of my life really. How do I change from a prickly independent person to a grateful person people help? I don't like to bother them.

But at least I am not disappointed that H hasn't helped any more. He never did when we were together so leaving him is no loss really.

Ah well. Back for round two. Save some cake for me later! Smile

foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 13:56

alternative link for financial abuse sometimes now called economic abuse. will try to mend the links if we all nee a thread 8 (glum emoticon...don't suppose we will have changed the world in 991 more posts)

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foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 13:58

little house...i say yes to all help....then worry that I am becoming a "taking" person instead of a giving person!!!!!! But could not really manage otherwise as have no family around and far too many children....

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foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 13:59

pink hope you have fun with the link above!!!! Hmm

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ThePinkPussycat · 10/03/2012 14:11

Littlehouse is your hobby mud-wrestling?

LittleHouseofCamelias · 10/03/2012 19:10

Ha ha Pink it might well be!
Home now and snug on the sofa aching gently.

I have managed my own finances for over a year now and am considerably poorer being single, but much happier. H never thought I would opt to go without his income.

Who's around tonight?

arthriticfingers · 10/03/2012 19:30

Hi everyone,
Thanks, fool for getting new thread up.
I am around and feeling very pathetic. Could I ask for some hand holding over until Monday.
Have final appointment with lawyer to sign separation documents at 7 on Monday. Separation should be final by April.
FWit, magnanimously, says that he will take an hour off work to come; am I supposed to say 'thank you'?
FWit has been wandering around as if this is all some game of silly buggers that I am playing just to spite HIM.
I know that this is all part of the script, but, at the moment, After 30 years and behaviour that has degenerated to the unbelievable, and not a living soul I can talk to, I am feeling as if I have lost all touch with reality.

foolonthehill · 10/03/2012 20:11

...sorry, what is reality???????

My NSDH is spreading the word around that I am 1) mad, 2) an abuser, 3) in danger of arrest....Confused

My son is trying on his fathers' persona this week after too much skyping Sad

AF....you need some living souls.....any chance of finding some over the summer when you are back?????

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ThePinkPussycat · 10/03/2012 20:47

fingers you will probably feel better when the papers are signed.

My/our friends tried to take a balanced view, without knowing all the facts, it was more of a strain than having no-one in RL would have been, I think, and MN has been a life-line.

However, taking the long view, it has helped me realise that I don't need validation from others to know that what I am doing and deciding is right for me.

BibiBlocksberg · 10/03/2012 20:58

I do love to sneak on to a fresh thread, like a cat hairing up some clean washing :)

As foolonthehill so eloquently said, sorry if you need to be here but I'm glad this thread continues to exist because of the invaluable support it provides.

Love from Bibi towers where calm and happiness still reign.

LittleHouseofCamelias · 10/03/2012 21:04

fingers it is true that when you try to explain to your friends that the marriage is over quite a few will be in denial and treat you as infectious or deranged. They all know the charming persona that FWH portrays. So rant away to us, we won't try to persuade you that you are making a mistake, or try to glue you back with him.

My friends had a murder mystery dinner 3 months after I left H and couldn't understand why I didn't want him there to make the twelfth character in the plot. I put my foot down and they harrumphed every time we got to one of "his" lines! Then my mum invited him for Xmas and wanted to give him the spare room for the night...

LittleHouseofCamelias · 10/03/2012 21:06

How are you? Does the uniform fit better? How are the cats??

BibiBlocksberg · 10/03/2012 21:18
ThePinkPussycat · 10/03/2012 21:19

Would you have relented if they'd agreed he could be the victim Littlehouse Wink

BibiBlocksberg · 10/03/2012 21:22

"How are you? Does the uniform fit better? How are the cats??"

Didn't see that oportunity for shameless self promotion :)

Uniform is virtually hanging off me Dahling, what with there being no man around to tell me when I'm hungry and not I have discovered that I can regulate my own food intake very successfully (not involving massive evening meals for one)

Cats are great, both still alive and currently snoozing happliy after a day of watching their hoomin clean 'their' house, mow 'their lawn and play and cuddle with them in the lovely sunshine.

Hope you're well and happy too!

ThePinkPussycat · 10/03/2012 21:28

oh bibi I was finding shared meals so irksome, so often for the past few years I would have preferred a snack like scambled eggs on toast - although that didn't actually stop me hoovering up a plateful of meat and two veg or whatever.

LittleHouseofCamelias · 10/03/2012 21:32

Well done! Will look at your link in a mo. You sound very together and a fine role model for the poor folk still at the start of the escape tunnel you and I crawled down.

I am most happy with my house, my wonderful DC, and the Very Nice Man with whom I have been "walking out" for six months. Actually we mainly stay in and go to bed!!
But he has an obsessive hobby different from mine (not mud wrestling either) and has been training me up. It has been an energetic winter!

LittleHouseofCamelias · 10/03/2012 21:36

Pussy I did consider that option Grin

I met a strange Special Forces guy online who turned out to be Red Flag Central and had to go... He did offer jokingly (I think!) to get rid of FWH for me....

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