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Support for those in emotionally abusive relationships 2

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bigbuttons · 28/06/2011 06:45

try againHmm

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ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 28/06/2011 21:36

This website has its place in the links on the first page of this thread: You are not crazy

MadameOvary · 28/06/2011 21:43
Shock X does that. I was listening to the dialogue between the couple with the abusive relationship, and X does that "You never want to spend time with me, you never want to come over my house" ALL THE TIME. And probably everything else too.

My friend actually posted that link on FB, ItsMe but I hadn't looked at it till now as I dont have Flash on my iphone. Thanks again Smile

bigbuttons · 28/06/2011 22:15

Jesus, I just did that quizz. I chose the blaming option. It sent shivers down my spine. That was like listening to stbex. Fuck

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dementedma · 28/06/2011 22:16

hi all, still reading, still nodding!
madam ovary - I used to get reeled in all the time, but am becoming more and more detached.
this morning DH said in that tone of voice (you will all know it, aggressive, peeved, slightly threatening)..."and I have NO idea what's happening with DS tonight after school". For this read "nobody tells me anything round here, why does nobody keep me informed, what arrangements have YOU made and why haven't you told me?"
I suppressed the old feelings and calmly said "you do know what's happening, you've been told 3 times, you've just overheard me reminding DS to go to Grandma's after school. And, if you really didn't know you could have asked to be reminded in a much nicer tone of voice. Now I'm going to work. goodbye"
I am feeling just a tad empowered. Grin

bigbuttons · 28/06/2011 22:22

Oh God and another thing stbex was always saying he was going to record our arguments so that he could prove what he said and I couldn't accuse him of stuff etc. The recordings would show what an irrational and unpleasant person I was and how I hogged all the conversation space., how he couldn't get a word in edgeways. And he would go on and on and on and on and on.
I said i wouldn't speak if I thought he was doing that because it was so not normal, it gave me the creeps.
Then he said he had recorded our arguments secretly but he wouldn't let me listen to any of the recordings. It was for him to prove to himself that he was right, he said
In the clip the abuser allows himself to be recorded because he thinks he is totally in the right. Stbex believes he is totally right.
It's really scary isn't it?

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Misspixietrix · 28/06/2011 22:28

am i ok to come in again too please? Sorry rather tired tonight but will update and catch-up with you all in the morning hopefully

HerHissyness · 28/06/2011 22:34

Always welcome MissPixietrix ((hugs)) Sleep well love!

ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 28/06/2011 22:42

'Night all!

MadameOvary · 28/06/2011 23:47

Of course MissPixie the more the merrier Smile
I am feeling somewhat restored now thanks to you lovely people and a couple of lovely RL phone conversations.

Night everyone ((hugs))

Misspixietrix · 29/06/2011 07:26

Bringing you up to speed. he still refuses to move back out.. His friend actually had words with me yesterday & i'm the mad one in their eyes too! Hmmm? wondering what they could have been told! Yesterday summed it up... When I was out I saw him with 2cpso's he'd got a £60fine for littering. I was in trouble for not being telepathic because the t**t gave a false name! I have a get-out plan in place for the summer holidays, as i'm not hoping on him to move first.

cathkidstonbag · 29/06/2011 08:12

He did it again!!! FFS after waking me up last time in the middle of the night for sex he tried it again. I thought he actually listened to me when I told him never to do that again. But this time I'm woken up by him with his hand in my knickers. I was so angry. So there's no affection or intimacy unless he does this??? I got out of bed and went out of the room till he'd gone back to sleep. Apparently it's my fault because I'm not affectionate enough and never want to spend time with him! And I need to start discussing with him what the counsellor is telling me as it's ruining our marriage!!!
Okay vent over feel a bit better now.

dementedma · 29/06/2011 09:00

So there's no affection or intimacy unless he does this???

OMG - oh, I HEAR you!! Same here. Stay strong!

ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 29/06/2011 09:12

Pixie sorry to hear you're being harangued by his friend. Remember that other people's opinions don't matter, infuriating as they can be, as long as you know what you need.

OMG that's just shit. I am Angry at the threadbare excuse "It's your fault, you make me do it." It's utter BS. His own action: his own responsibility. If he can't respect you and listen to your concerns... well, maybe he just can't. I'm so sorry.

bigbuttons · 29/06/2011 09:25

omg that's really shit, how horribleAngry

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HerHissyness · 29/06/2011 09:26

omg: You need to discuss with HIM what the counsellor said to YOU as it's ruining your marriage? why DO we bother with client confidentiality? Oh yeah I remember, because it's PRIVATE.Angry

As for the hands in the pants.... [fume] What would this be if you were touched up like this in the eyes of the law? Indecent assault?

Tell him he is not to sleep in your bed from now on. How the bloody hell dare he do this to you? He is not respecting you at all!

What has ruined your marriage is the abusive and disgusting treatment by this dreadful man. omg, you can do nothing about this, get your therapy to focus on getting you through splitting up with him. Surely this has to be the straw that broke the camel's back?

Misspixietrix · 29/06/2011 09:37

Omg so sorry to hear what he did:( I've been woken up in the night before too because he's needed it & I probably like you just needed to sleep! Big hugs coming your way omg & to everyone else too.

barbiegrows · 29/06/2011 10:09

puppy - regarding his STUFF being sent back and forth - essentially, try and add this as fuel to your fire. The fire that you are going to burn him with. Not literally, but legally. What he has done is just another incident of abusive behaviour - he's trying to control and undermine you, run rings round you, provoke you. I would suggest you stay strong and do just what he wants but make sure it's all recorded. He wants you to fight and battle, say "no I won't have it your way" - when you do that he has drawn you in again. It's the disengaging thing that you know all about, but perhaps can't see it in perspective here as it's kind of drawn out over time.

mo - selective hearing, selective memory... Perhaps they are natural symptoms of being an abusive person. Perhaps they genuinely can't hear or can't remember because for so long they have been blocking stuff out that comes from you, because it's not about THEM. Narcissistic stuff. But I would agree you are going down the right track to have other people witness things, do put him on the spot in this way.

I remember about 15 years ago, leaving my OH, my friend going over to tell him and he said 'I thought you just wanted to move out, not end the relationship'. I believed that he didn't understand. Naive me just went along with it and accepted this feeble excuse. How soft am I.

obrigada · 29/06/2011 10:14

Hi all, ok if I join ye on this thread. I was in an emotionally abusive marriage for over 12 years, and have been out of this relationship for 14 years. A lot of the stuff I have been reading on here has brought back many painful memories that I thought I had buried but realisation dawned on me this weekend that during my marriage I learned to detach from what was happening to me but unfortunately I have carried this detachment with me throughout the years in the sense that I often feel that things happen around me and to me without me really being part of it IYSWIM. With this realisation also came the realisation that I have been carrying a lot of bitterness around with me for years.

ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 29/06/2011 10:17

Welcome obrigada.

Spill it all out here, if you want. We're listening.

cathkidstonbag · 29/06/2011 10:18

Tried to discuss this reasonably with him (not sure why I bothered!). Apparently there's no time for affection because I'm always so busy with kids/house etc. I reminded him that he hasn't been home before 9pm most nights for the past few weeks, that's irrelevant in his opinion. Also I never let him cuddle me in bed anymore. That's true and this is why (please tell me if I sound petty!). He used to like to cuddle up to me but basically rearrange how I was laying, move my pillows around and me around until he was comfortable. Usually I would be in an awkward position but he couldn't sleep unless he could lay next to me like this. I'd have to wait till he'd gone to sleep so I could move him off me and be able to sleep myself! Also he would quite often when I was a normal size, squeeze any flabby bits, not hard but just enough so I would be aware of them itkwim? He'd say it was an accident etc. Now I am a lot skinnier and he liked to rap my hipbones with his knuckles, just lightly but I hated it. Or he would touch my breasts and complain how small they are but in a joking way again.
Basically a few weeks ago I had enough of feeling like a piece of meat, none of this was done with love or affection so I said it had to stop. Which he has respected but now I'm getting it thrown back at me that it's my fault :(

ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 29/06/2011 10:28

omg I'm really sad at everything you describe: the lack of consideration of your comfort, his "need" for this and that which was indulged to your detriment, unspoken comments on your body shape, your weight loss, ... .

And no, you do not sound petty to me at all.

barbiegrows · 29/06/2011 11:30

omg I did a long post and then lost it. Puppy summed it up though, his pinching and poking are unspoken comments. His expression in bed is the expression of someone who cares only about himself. You sound like you are 'detaching'. I've just got myself a single duvet. It helps. Especially if you lie on one edge of it so they have to make an effort. Sad but true...

MadameOvary · 29/06/2011 11:57

omg like everyone else here I am alternating between rage and sadness for you. That is unspeakable, callous, disrespectful behaviour...and you KNOW its him. This is nothing you've done/not done.

Please read the Verbal Abuse links, I think they will really strike a chord with you, if they haven't already!

MadameOvary · 29/06/2011 12:12

obrigada welcome to the thread Smile
MissPixie sorry to hear that he is involving his friends in your personal business Angry It smacks of real playground stuff, getting your friends to back you up...proves what a weak little specimen he is.

Anniegetyourgun · 29/06/2011 12:16

I wonder if he put you in an uncomfortable position on purpose? Sort of a test for your devotion, kind of weird thing. There are loads of comfortable positions he could have been in that would fit with your own comfortable position. No, he had to arrange you along with the pillows and stuff; you were just another bit of the furniture. You exist for his comfort and don't you forget it. What a turd.

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