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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Park Bench!

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HammerMouseOfHorrors · 18/10/2010 10:54

Hello Smile

I'm Mouse and one of the Brave Babes on the Battle Bus.

The bus is never full and you'll find a real mix of people on board, all with the same goal.

To take control of their drinking. Whether that's to stop completely or cut right down.

Everyone is welcome to get on the bus at any point. You will receive a warm welcome and plenty of support.

Some come meet the others.........

The journey so far.

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HammerMouseOfHorrors · 28/10/2010 10:23

Wasindi - so sorry about your uncle lovely, here, have a Mouse hug (((((x)))))

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daddywillbehomesoon · 28/10/2010 10:37

wasindi so sorry to hear about your uncle - xposted earlier.

Am hoping tonight that there is lots of wine tasting going on with spitoons (right word) so i can taste without ingesting. Restaurant booked for afterwards so that should be fun

TheAntiChristi · 28/10/2010 11:34

I am very sorry wasindie about your uncle

I think I may be off too, I feel I can't keep up and now a bit criticised for being stop starter! I am feeling very sensitive but I am having a bad time at mo. DD2 still wheezing. No time to look for a job as DH now really really down, can't even get out of bed, it's appalling, so am having to do every single little thing. So so so broke. Am really struggling but all will be fine I am sure. Will try to stay off the booze, drinking very far down the priority list and i certainly can't afford it!

Sorry for moan, just trying to explain.

Take care all

witchetychicky · 28/10/2010 11:44

Please don't go christi
Sad

zombieinhighheelswhatnext · 28/10/2010 11:51

come on christi!!, i think you need a bit of a hug!!, you sure are taking on alot right now, it wont last forever though love! no is criticising you, you have to do whats right for you!

hang around with us a bit longer!

see you later babes, im off to AA in a mo, missed it all week as i have been so busy with work, it will be nice to catch up with people!

Silver66 · 28/10/2010 12:04

Christi don't go - I think that maybe a lot of us felt a bit stung yesterday but i can also understand how frustrating it is for those of us that have succeeded in staying sober to watch those of us that haven't slip again and again.

We are all in the same boat - just at different stages of the illness - I for one am on my, erm, 5th or 6th attempt to stop and I cannot say for certain that I will not drink tonight.

BUT my whole being is focussed on getting through today. Tomorrow can take a running jump until it arrives.

ALL of us are doing fantastically in that even though we may be stop/starting - we are f**king trying and we need eachothers support.

Anyway it's your turn to change the oil.....

[hgrin]

please stay xxxx

desiretochange · 28/10/2010 12:06

Christi you are by no means the only stop/starter on here and don't go anywhere, please:( As JWN you have a lot on your plate at moment so keep talking to us.

witchetychicky · 28/10/2010 12:08

christi I feel myself heading into a bit of a dip and am likely to be wallowing in self pity for a while - please stay and wallow with me!
x

Silver66 · 28/10/2010 12:15

Christi, Witchety, desire and Loopy* - today we are going to visit the mud baths of iceland? scandinavia? norway? well where ever they are - and wallow together - get your cossies - Gerald is leaving in five.........Wink xx

witchetychicky · 28/10/2010 12:18

Sounds like heaven - I'll make sure I leave my ds at home - he would just make farty noises with the mud!!

desiretochange · 28/10/2010 12:21

Just shaking mothballs out of my cossie (have no idea when it last seen the light of day):

loopylouwitchywoo6 · 28/10/2010 12:25

So sorry about your uncle :(

Christi get your arse back here NOW :)

Silver today destinations sound great :D

Silver66 · 28/10/2010 12:28

Christi the bus is leaving hurry up!!!

Wasindie So sorry about your uncle xxx

MIFLAW · 28/10/2010 12:46

Dear stop starters

I just want to chip in here.

You are certainly not alone in what you are doing - I took a year to be convinced. Nore, as my own example proves. does "slipping" now mean you will never get it - if I make it to December 16 I will be eight years continuously sober (i.e. no drink of alcohol in that time) one day at a time. For someone who drank every day, that can't be bad.

On the other hand, you need to get into your head that your adversary is not us, or your own willpower, or even alcohol. It is alcohol ABUSE, and, whether you like it or not, you are playing for very high stakes. It is like a game of Russian roulette and every time you pick up a drink is another pull on the trigger because, unlike smoking or biscuits or many other addictions, you literally do not know where it is going to take you or what the consequences will be.

I can also promise you that, if you are alcoholic, it is not going to get any better. Whatever problems you have in life, a drink will make them worse. And you will wake up the next day (assuming you do wake up the next day) with that same feeling of paranoia, loneliness and dread.

In other words - and this is only my opinion, as ever - don't beat yourself up if you have a drink. You're human, you're a problem drinker, it's an entirely understandable temptation and no one can blame you for being suckered in. Most important of all, PLEASE don't feel judged or that you have let anyone but yourself down. And KEEP COMING BACK!

But don't expect it to get any easier either. If you could control your drinking, you probably would be doing so already (as, I am aware, some people here are successfully doing.) You would know if you were one of them - if you're not, and if you've tried it and failed it more than a couple of times, don't expect the next drink to be any different in those terms.

During that year of slipping, I had a different reason every time I drank. Looking back, it was the same reason every time, and yet I never guessed it - it was that I did not take my alcoholism seriously enough and still believed in miracle cures. Now I don't, I find sustaining and enjoying sobriety very easy.

witchetychicky · 28/10/2010 12:59

Thanks for that miflaw

Silver66 · 28/10/2010 13:27

Forthe - >

I didn't do anything about the bogus will - I just haven't got the energy and want the case to be finished - it's looking good in my DD's favour and she should end up with a good nest egg - just interupted by call from solicitor!! - anyway as much as I would like to pursue the fraud angle, at the moment my priority is getting back on an even keel.

where have you been lovely??? Smile

Silver66 · 28/10/2010 13:29

Wise words MILFLAW [hgrin]

Fortheverylasttime · 28/10/2010 13:29

Long post lost.

www.nta.nhs.uk/uploads/nta_review_of_the_effectiveness_of_treatment_for_alcohol_problems_fullreport_2006_alcohol2.pdf

p140 or thereabouts. Internet support, as supplied by M, V, and JWN.

Grr. (At lost post)

Fortheverylasttime · 28/10/2010 13:33

Diabolik. Did you post something about the lizard brain? I am googling but can't get your link?

(Diabolik, feel free to give help with the smoking.) Out of interest, is there anyone here who is not a smoker or ex-smoker?

diabolik · 28/10/2010 14:04

Hi FTVLT

www.orange-papers.org/orange-addmonst.html

as for help with smoking - dunno whether I am of much help . I am using lozenges so I haven't really quit yet - did try to yesterday .. but within 4 hours I was gagging for a cigarette and nearly gave in . So for now back on the lozenges, at least I'm not polluting my lungs ..

MIFLAW · 28/10/2010 14:10

Thanks for link, Forthe. It certainly seems very positive about AA.

Fortheverylasttime · 28/10/2010 14:21

Miflaw, I thought the bit about Internet support was interesting, in the sense of being a new area of treatment.

witchetychicky · 28/10/2010 14:33

fortheverylasttime I'm an ex-smoker - stopped 12 years ago - and since then only had a handful if I have been really pissed - so hopefully that's the end of them now

thurso · 28/10/2010 14:40

Hi, I have been watching this for a week or so, and am so touched by your support, and kindness to each other. But I was really, really upset by the shouty msg, I felt so worthless for even trying, so far from joining in, I think it's best if I go.
Thank you MIFLAW for your words today.
I hope you all succeed. xx:)

HammerMouseOfHorrors · 28/10/2010 14:47

Oh dear.

It looks as if my message caused far more harm than good.

I shall ask for it to be deleted and then bow out Brave Babes.

I am truly sorry for the upset I have caused. xx

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