September 2004 babies!

[dinny]

Apologies if anyone has started this - I can't see one anywhere. Thought we could all meet up here to discuss our newborn darlings.
My little man is doing well - this is day five (I think!). He is feeding well but my nipples are sore - am sure my latch is OK but I suppose it can't be. MW comes tomorrow so will ask her. He's got lots of wet and dirty nappies so milk must be going down OK. He feeds lots in the day and then about 3 times between 8pm-8am. Slept from 2.30am to 8am today. Feeling proud of self as managed trip to playgrund this morning with him in sling and dd in buggy. Managed a 45 min play and about 30 min walk and he slept the whole time. It's as scary going out the first time with him as it was with dd!

Anyway, will stop whittering! Had a few tears (mine) yesterday as I was looking at him and thinking how lucky I am to have two lovely children. Couldn't stop crying. Hormones, hey?
How are the rest of you doing? Wonder who'll be next to pop? Highlander has her section on Monday, I think.....

[dinny]

I'm here...just. Ned is still feeding loads and still can't seem to settle himself without a boob in his mouth. Finding having two children hard-going at the moment. DD is toilet training (nappies came off at nursery today with no accidents - v proud of her). It's going to be hard seeing she gets to the loo when ds is clamped to my tits...

[jacksmumto1]

I'm sort of here.... last week has been v.v.hard - mastitis, eye infection, ear infection and constantly crying.... ds1 also been very "difficult" with the "terrible two's" and obviously 'feeling pushed out' Ds2 is also clamped to my tits (nice phrase dinny! ) However he is now 7lb 14oz having gone down from 6lb 6os to 5lb 10oz so doing really well and looking quite a fatty!!

Off to see 'Thomas the tank engine' tomorrow and then away for a week with my inlaws - all help required to keep me sane! So will log in and update when I get back!

[dinny]

Poor you, Jacksmum. Are you over the worst of the mastitis? Who's been constantly crying? You or bub? Me and bub and dd have been doing lots of that this last week. SO hard with two sprogs, isn't it? I've still got cracked nipple on one side - just can'tg get latch right (despite lots of help from bf counsellor)

[jacksmumto1]

Hi Dinny.... seem to have caught the mastitis at the right stage - lucky I knew the symptoms - so that is a lot better. Are you using lansinoh? MW recommended I put lots on to my cracked nipples AND onto the breastpads plus to put it on before and after a shower/bath. Also on my "worst" side I swopped bub's position and held him rugby style - it seemed to take the 'pressure' off and made it feel less painful. This seemed to help and thankfully the cracked nipples have pretty much healed. I hope your's get's better soon.. it isn't nice
The crying was mainly me - just appeared out of the blue and the silliest thing would set me off. I have had 2 "good" days so I hope hormones have settled but we'll see. GP was happy to give me AD's but said I'd have to be on them for a few months so I wanted to hang on a few days before I went down that route. Ds2 seems to have a crying phase of an evening... I think he gets tummy ache and wants to suck.. he won't accept a dummy at the moment....
It is hard with two... I knew it would be BUT I didn't realise HOW hard... DH works from 4.30pm and I can't work out how to get ds1 fed, bathed and to bed with ds2's feeds and crying... (I've had help for the last 4 1/2 weeks(!) ) I have to 'go it alone' soon [scared emoticon]

hope things improve for you soon....

[madgirl]

sorry to but in on the september thread (i'm on the jul/aug babies thread) but DINNY - seem to remember you are round the corner to me (sw17) do you want some company one day? at least to try and amuse your dd and my ds whilst having a good old empathy session re new babies? if so please contact me via mumsnet. mgx

[dinny]

Jacksmum, poor you with dh working lates. Bet you are dreading the whole bedtime nightmare. Just think, you'll have perfected it before you know it....
I've been feeling teary and bit low too - just feelings of not being able to cope with two children. And it's so hard`when sodding boobs hurt, isn't it? Forgotten where you live - is it Bristol? Not London by any chance?
Madgirl, would love to meet - emailed you a while ago (I think I did anyway!) Will try again, Dinny

[madgirl]

Dinny, please do contact me again, i replied, but then didn't hear back. i make a mean instant coffee here at rectory lane!

[dinny]

Just mailed you, Madgirl. Ooh, I know exactly where Rectory Lane is! How exciting!

[madgirl]

great Dinny. let's try and meet up next week. will wait to hear from you via mumsnet, will leave your september thread alone now! mgx

[dinny]

Madgirl, think my email playing up - please resend your mail to me....

[hermykne]

hi dinny
i have two just under age 2!, ds is now 9wks and just saw your contributions here about coping with two. i have not made it to the july/aug (ds born july 30th) babies thread as i just have not had the time and your words - teary, low - hit me. exausting stuff, bf too and hes is a bit of a divil at the moment but we have had a crazy week of visitors from US and dd birthday (2 today). i will read this again - time allowing- to get a better idea of how you all cope.
dh on hols at moment and i am dreading bedtime next week when he goes back as ds is not settling in the evening after a day of very little sleep!

[dejags]

hello everybody, hope you are all well.

Sorry not much time so I haven't really had time to re-read all the posts - I lurk most days and check to see how you all are.

We are very well - I was starting to get a bit low last week because things have been so higgledy-piggledy in our house (I am a bit of a control freak ). Anyway it wasn't anything serious and I feel okay now.

I have started trying to get Tate into a routine - i.e. bath, bottle, bed and ensuring he is awake by 5pm so ready for bed by 7pm. He stayed in his own bed for the whole night last night - yipppeeee!! Fed at 11.30 and 4 so not to heinous...

He is a real pig - and is now on 7 x 7oz bottles everyday. I bought some hungry baby formula yesterday to try and get this under control.

Anyway time is precious - got to run.

Love
dejags

[weeboagie]

hi - new to mumsnet - dd1, baby bella was born on 6th sept. first week or were fab - regular feeds etc - now stuck to boobs all day - a wee star at night though - just a couple of feeds and straight to sleep in between.
It's so good to read your chat and see that I'm not alone. They must be magic wee things to cause us so much grief but still be the centre of our world!!

Any advice on overenthusiastic grandparents - this is first for both sides and they're driving me round the bend.
Being a mum is better than I ever thought it could be.

PS - typing this one handed as Miss Limpet Lips is stuck to me for a change!

[highlander]

I've just had the 24 hours from hell. On Monday night DS went to bed at 10pm, woke at 1am and then was awake (with v brief 30 min naps) until 1am this morning - last night he was hysterical for a a couple of hours. It was awful. He seems to go through this every couple of days and I can't figure out what's wrong. Yesterday he was feeding so much I was sure I was running out of milk. Don't know how much more I can take. DH goes back to work full time next week and I'm dreading it.

[dejags]

Highlander - hang in there, I know how bloody exhausting it is and made even more difficult to deal with because there is no rhyme or reason to the behaviour.

Just keep telling yourself "this too shall pass", I promise you in 6 weeks time it will all seem like a distant memory.

Unfortunately there is little you can do besides being at DS's beck and call - he's too little to let him cry it out besides this would probably just result in an even worse time of things.

Thinking of you... [hugely sympathetic emoticon needed]

[dinny]

hi everyone and welcome weeboague.
highlander, sounds like euan is having growth spurt - is he about 3 wks now? ds did exactly the same - nightmare. don't worry, you will have enough milk - that's why he's feeding so often - to create more. hang on in there, it will pass (till the next one!) my doula told me to eat really well and rest to increase`supply.
bye for now d xxx

[highlander]

I think you're all right about the growth spurt. Weighed him on Wed and he's put on another pound in a week and grown 3 cm in 2 weeks. What a scoffer - I'm stunned that this is all down to breast milk I'm absolutely starving as well! I've stopped changing his nappy at night and that seems to help settle him without affecting his nappy rash. He's definitely more settled the last couple of days - yes!!
Thanks for your support.

How's everyone getting on?

[piximon]

Hello everyone, I'm new to MN. My daugter was born on September 14th and I wish I'd found this thread sooner. Am finding being a mother second time round much harder. My son (20mths) was a model baby who hardly ever cried but dd is either constantly feeding or constantly crying. The minute she's put down she begins to wail and nights are the hardest. I know it will pass but it's hard to see the light just now.
Everything i read said breastfed babies don't get wind but she seems to be having a bad time with wind and stomach pain.
Have had to put a nightlight in son's room as since she was born he took to screaming the house down every few hours overnight.
I too under estimated how hard it would be.

[dinny]

Hi Piximon, and welcome Sorry you are finding it hard - I am too, and I was well prepared as dd was a nightmare as a baby and so is ds. Finding it really hard - ds is also constantly feeding or crying. Dh has reminded me that we swore we wouldn't make the same mistakes with ds that we did with dd (ie never putting her to bed properly - instead keeping her up and rocking/jiggling her). It's so hard, isn't it? Ds also showing signs of being colicky as well. Where do you live, Piximon?

[dejags]

Hi all,

Sorry to hear that some of you are having a difficult time of things - hope they improve soon .

We are doing pretty well - settled down into a fairly consistent routine. Still feel really knackered all the time though. We are due to emigrate 3 weeks tomorrow and there has been so much to do before we leave. This has left me absolutely no time to have a rest in the day - have hardly slept at all in the day since DS2 was born.

Tate is still a very quiet baby - loves his grub for sure and does get uptight if a feed is more than a few minutes in the making but otherwise he is pretty calm. Luckily DS1 has really settled down well - the age difference has made the world of difference I think (there is 3yrs3monts between them).

One thing I am so proud of is that my baby is a "mummy's boy". I had really bad PND with my first child and didn't bond with DS1 until he was well over a year old . Everybody notices how much Tate loves his mummy [proud emoticon] - he settles down as soon as he hears my voice and is smiling at me all the time now. I feel so relieved that we didn't get PND again

Hope you are all well

[dinny]

Hi, Dejags - thnks for your post on my thread about sleeping (or lack of!). ds is now grizzling in moses basket in bedroom - first time I have actually put him in it since he was born (has been either in my arms or in our bed - have made a rod for my own back!) god, I feel awful letting him cry but I have just been in to feed/change/burp/swaddle him (he is so strong he always gets his arms out of swaddle, however tight it is). he's so tired I don't know what else I can do to help him sleep.

[piximon]

Hi dinny, I live in woolwich SE London. I don't really know any other mothers so it has helped coming on here and hearing I'm not alone.
DD finally managed some sleep in her moses basket last night but I was at the stage where I was too exhausted to sleep unfortunately so I couldn't make the most of it. Ah well at least progress is being made.

[jacksmumto1]

Hi everyone - back again!! Ds2 is 6 weeks today and we had our chk-up today. He passed with flying colours... I on the other hand didn't The tearfulness isn't going away and GP thinks I have PND. She wasn't 100% sure if I could have AD's while bf so is checking up on that. Not sure what else I can do though tbh

ds2 has spent the last few days constantly crying... he wants to suck but won't accept a dummy but also I am sure he isn't hungry all the time(!). He just wants to be held in a curled upright position in order to sleep - woe betide me if I put him down... so tiring and not good for ds1. Not sure why this has suddenly come on as I have been making an effort to make sure he sleeps in his basket upstairs and downstairs (so he is used to quiet and lots of noise) so I can spend time with ds1. I have a sling which was great with ds1 but can't get me or ds2 comfy this time....... any suggestions.. anyone?

Hope all is well with you all?? Dinny, how are you now? (I am in bristol btw)

[littlemel]

Hello everyone, i am finding this very tiring being a mum business!! dd just wont stop crying between 6pm-midnight. She stops when we pick her up, but the starts the minute we out her down again. dp has started back at work tonight and so I am dreading tonight on my own. Luckily she hasnt started yet!! We are lucky though in that she sleeps from midnight til 6/7am without waking.

[dinny]

hi everyone, jacksmum - sounds like you are having a hard time, hon. i hope your gp can help. [smile}

the crying (and littlemel's dd) sounds like colic to me - dd was really bad from 6 wks-nearly 20 wks. it's supposed to pass by 3 months tho (depressing thought, hey?) my suggestions for coping are baby in sling while you bounce on swiss ball in front of tv drinking wine, infacol, baby massage (can do anti-colic massage), have deep bath with baby....all helps but we never found a "cure". just rode it out.

i am feeling a lot better thisweek. ds been having cranial osteopathy and it seems to have helped. have given up trying to get him into a routine - been carrying him round all evening in a karri-me sling, which you can bf in. he is in 7th heaven! really helps when doing dd's bath and bed if he is tired and` cranky.