December 2011 - crying and grizzling (and that's just the mums!)

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

LMF Thank you for replying it's true what you said tbh.

Seven It was me who asked about weaning. Small world with your bumbo lol.

Aethel Good to see you had a good timecxa?

Sorry Sky pressed post!

Aethel that was good to see you ha a great time at the wedding.

Mopsy hope your feeling more refreshed this morning.

Sky slept 7:30 till 4:30 then awake again t 6:30. Just going to sort a bottle now

LO woke 3x for feeds last night. Rubbish!
We had another poosplosion event yesterday, but the nappy held it all in unbelievably. It was a mess. I'm not sure what this "save up the poop" phase is about, but I preferred the poop at feedtimes habit better. He's windier now too. I'm forever manoeuvring his legs to help him.
Glad the wedding went well aethel, shame you had to leave before the dancing started though,
I'm getting up. I need Rice Krispies.

Argh just typed big long post and pressed post and it got lost :(

Oi was saying you've given me craving for rice krispies but only cornflakes in this house :(

aethel was saying we must have x-posted last night as only just saw your post. Glad you'd fun and broke in your docs!

dsm, was saying hope you have a better day today and feel happier. Your partner is being v selfish and immature by refusing basically to take any responsibility and blaming you. I hope he cops on to hImself soon.

Thanks Mopsy He's being very nice at the moment. However, Darcie isn't home yet! So fingers crossed this afternoon goes well. He put my keep calm & carry on picture up yesterday - as a goodwill gesture I think lol.

Lots to do today, no energy though. Onwards?

Effing marvellous, bloody car won't start. DH said it was fine yesterday. It's part exchange for the new one on Wednesday, really can't afford this.

Gah first night feed for 2 weeks has knocked me sideways as out of practice he was up at 3.30 still up at 5, then woke again at 7 with a very loud poo explosion.

Morning! Had a great night out, met my friend's new boyfriend, who is lovely and got on really well with DP. Amazing food too, duck in plum sauce and good wine! We didn't see the DDs...far too busy playing. When we went to get them to go home they were all asleep in a pile. Miri slept in the sling wonderfully, didn't wake at all!

Re weaning. I aim for somewhere around the middle of the first year. DD1 was 9mths before she ate anything, DD2 was 7mths. We do BLW, and I start offering when they are sitting up, can get things to their mouth and have lost the tounge thrust reflex. Then they decide when they are ready.

aethelglad you had a good time!

Edward's doing a lot if coughing and yakking, I'm worried as last time he started like this we ended up in hospital. I know it's unlikely to happen again, but I'm paranoid:(

lmf, if you're worried ring the OOH docs while it's daytime and you can get him checked more easily? Hope he's OK -shouldn't get bronchiolitis twice ina season so hopefully just a viral thing.

seven: how annoying:can you get it patched up just til you can exchange it?

Weaning wise I say 4-7 months, depends on baby. I like mush feeding baby little tastes of stuff gradually rather than 0-60 with sudden intro of " meals". So the odd taste of squashed veg/fruit to start with, then ice cubed portions (you can buy lidded weaning cubes to freeze or use a regular tray) and finally mini portions. If any of you wean before 6 months avoid dairy and wheat to prevent allergy risk. After 6 months crack out the yoghurt and wheat!

Thanks aethel At the minute he's sleeping, feeding and periodically spewing all over himself. He's warm but not burning and although coughing, his breathing isn't laboured, so I'm going to just let him get on with it while I beat my paranoia up with the 'shut-up' stick:)

lmf hope he fights off whatever it is, maybe try some calpol?

Eva last had a feed at 6.15 and has now been sound asleep for nearly 4 hours. Should I wake her up or leave her to it. She seems ok by the way, I keep checking on her.

Cancel that, she started waking, now having a sleepy feed.

Why am I such a failure of a mum, girlfriend & person?

I know what I do is wrong when it come to DP disciplining Darcie I shouldn't say anything or interfere but most sometimes I can't help it, which therefore starts an argument and DP said Darcie & I have driven a wedge between us and is seriously thinking about calling time on the relationship and kicking me & the girls out. He's a fantastic dad why am I such a failure

How're you feeling now mopsy? I've forgotten what it's like to have a hangover... not sure whether to be pleased or feel ancient!

LO much more vocal now seven, it's great; I know it's projection, but it does really feel like he's trying to communicate. It's so much more fun as they get older.

Glad you made the wedding OK aethel, sounds like you had fun and coped with the Tube wonderfully. I know the pain of wearing in Docs; I've still got scars on my ankles from wearing in a pair of Doc shoes in my teens. My boots I've had for over half my life, and even though they're falling to bits I don't want to get a new pair because they're soooo comfy.

Hope the stick is working LMF and the paranoia is now cowering in a corner!

Just had another look at some of the pics, and all our LOs are so sweet, just going slightly gaga over mini Oi and HLC...

Friday night was a right pain; it was less that DP is nervous, as 99% of the time he's the loveliest, best Dad, but that he'd decided to have an almighty flap at the wrong time. I have one hour a week which is inviolable, when I have a glass of wine and Skype my Mum. He chose that hour, and even if he couldn't get DS to settle he should've just taken him off somewhere, but didn't. Not helped by the fact that my Mum, instead of telling me to go off and sort it when she saw the chaos erupting behind my head, just gave me catsbum face about having her Friday night entertainment interrupted.

Weekend has been far better though; got loads of new plants for the garden (loads got ruined when the fence collapsed last summer) at 20% off at the local garden centre, and then got three matching pots half price. Thai curry for dinner too .

The best however is that since DS's last awake extravaganza, he's currently going through the best stage. I swear he's read the Purple Book, as he's currently feeding; then awake for 1.5-2 hours; then squawks. I take him upstairs, bounce him for two minutes, put him down awake (with white noise and dummy) walk away and he then sleeps for a good hour. Repeat to fade. It won't last but it's currently brilliant !

Anyone got exciting plans for the week?

Just seen your post DSM- you're not a failure at any of those things, you're simply a woman under a lot of pressure from all quarters.

Can you get any breathing space, get someone to have your older ones for a bit longer so you and your OH can talk things through? Is it worth considering counselling? He needs to be more supportive of you, and realise that this is a tough time with a baby and older children not taking it well, but it's something that will get better, especially if got through as a family.

Really hope he doesn't mean what he says.

determined you are not a failure, but you are hormonal and have a new baby and a difficult/challenging older child to deal with, its normal at this stage to find everything difficult and also very common to argue with partners, they say make NO major relationships decisions in the first year of a babies life for a reason!

you say you have a referral to camhs, phone them and try and push it forward, do you have anyone at the school you can speak to, my kids primary has a parent support advisor or something like that who is good. it sounds like you and dp need an outside person to talk to, someone neutral who can help and advise and i think you need t come up with some ground rules that you both stick to re you, your dp and how you deal with Darcie (lovely name btw :) )

take a step back and have a think what you think you could do to help things, try writing everything down and maybe your dp can do the same, this can be less confrontational that trying to talk things through wehre you are bound to get emotional etc.

you do sound very down (understandably) so keep an eye on yourself and dont hesitate to speak to hv or gp if you feel you need to ok?

i am easilyboreds big sister btw! and occasionally lurk on her thread and see how she is getting on! and i couldnt leave your post unanswered!

((determined))) cos you need one xxx

Oh dear dsm, it sounds like hard work. You are NOT a failure, you're just going through a really hard time. I'm sorry to be harsh but it sounds to me a little like your partner is the one who's being a bit crap right now. But I know I'm not there so maybe I shouldn't be commenting but really, threatening to walk out is awful, aren't you BOTH Darcie's parents!? It's not all your responsibility :( I hope things go better soon. I feel so bad for you, you're obvs being a brilliant mum but it's clearly not a situation that's going to sort itself in a day or two. But please don't say you're a failure, you're so the opposite!

northern, I felt rotten all day! Was in bed by 20:30! Had great fun but ii think in retrospect wd have had as much fun with half the amount of drink so next time i get a nIght out will go easier on the boozles!!

Mum and one of my sisters coming tomo til Thursday-SO excited!

P.s. 4madboys, you are more than welcome on the thread! Are you and easily Irish? Noticed a few uses of 'mammy' !!! (I'm Irish living in england)

Irish? no english, not from anywhere in particular as dad RAF so moved around a bit :) i havent used mammy maybe easily has? :)

and i dont want to gatecrash her thread, so althought i may pop in from time to time, i shall leave her too it, just when i saw determined post there were no replies and i didnt want to leave her unanswered :)

right it sounds like i have ww3 going on in the living rm, 2 boys on xbox another 2 trying to play with light sabers... and dd trying to learn to walk, thank goodness its dinner time and then bed for them all!

Oh must be someone else! This thread moves so fast, it's hard to remember!!

she may well have used it but i cant say i have ever noticed her doing so in rl :)

and yes this thread moves fast, as does mn as a whole tbh :)

DSM - He is wrong to say that he will live a women with a newborn. You are tired, hormonal and needs more support and love than any other time. What your partner is doing is emotional abuse right now. You need to both sit down without the kids there and write up some house rules and rewards and punishments for breaking them and both be consitant with it. Tell him that his words hurt and they undermine your relationship more than the kids behaiour.

(((hug))) you are a great person

(We never get anything that we cant deal with or come thru stronger xx)