Feb 2011- food food glorious food, all over the walls and some in their tummies!

[debka]

Ok bit lame but started a nice new thread cos I put the 1000th post on the last one!

wiggles You should be my p.a.
Yes Happy Birthday four4 Hope you have some nice presents and cake xx

reastie you dont get hungry on sw cos you can stuff your face with lots of rice and pasta,oh and yummy spuds too,i love it.
Off to baby bounce and rhyme in a bit,Dilly doesnt seem very refreshed after her 10 minute morning nap,i cant think why

Ah ledkr you've discovered my long lost secret, I was indeed a top PA, when they were still called secretaries a long time ago before I got fed up with picking up my boss' new and tres expensive shoes etc!

but ledkr I'm sure deb said she was hungry on it . So, can you really eat AS MUCH potatoes/rice/pasta as you like on it? If that's the case then where do I sign up? .

I think wiggles is secretly in MI5 working on hush hush cases along side mr w's - how else could she remember everything about everyone

Good news - after just 3 minutes of screaming Alice has fallen asleep for her nap

Hello all, where is deb I want to hear more about how sw works too

Well don't hate me but A had such a good night last night, I didn't have to get up to put the dummy in once and she slept til 7, am now racking my brain thinking what I did yesterday but think its down to luck mostly isn't it. She's asleep now and had a late morning nap yest so might be part of it...

reastie 3 mins is fab! Good girl alice.

Four4 happy birthday!!

wiggles and reastie and anyone else who watched the american killing, could you tell me the ending please? Don't reckon I'll watch it but would like to know the different ending.

ledkr do you have fx channel? The walking dead series 2 starts on 21st Oct, I am SO excited and looking forward to it, should be great.

Off to get A weighed in a bit, not had her weighed since August so should be interesting!

ponyo well done on last night , Anna was a real cuddle monster last night, I almost didn't want to put her down I'll tell you the ending but I'll wait until Reastie tells me she's seen it or I'll pm you.

Funny story - Olivia #1 She is very tired at the minute, doing longer hours this week, home early today because of strike - she turned round to us and said "I'm exhausting" - she has no bloody idea!!

Oh and Anna is crawling

ponyo have pmed you, sorry it might be a bit of a muddle

Afternoon ladies, hope the day is going OK for you.

It feels weird being back at work but coming on here because I can't post 'oooh Claudia just did x' and stuff. Still like reading everyone's updates tho!

C is still waking up snotty. I don't know whether I should do anything about this. It's been about 4 weeks now, she's just snotty, sneezes a bit, but otherwise seems OK. Is this something I should see a Dr about on the basis of it lasting ages? I would feel a bit silly tho...yeah, she's errmmm...got a runny nose. I'm pretty sure there is no ear or chest involvement, she seems to be in every other way fine. Is this just a starting nursery thing?

But today as we actually had to go in and wake her at 7, so we all had a nice long sleep [cringes], sorry.

She's having 3 days at MILs this week as my Mum is still in Spain. MIL showed me a bag of baby chocolate snacks and a jar of choc pudding the other day and said 'I got these but thought I'd better check with you first'. I'm afraid I did what would probably be described on mn as a catsbumface. I'm not completely precious about chocolate, she's had a bit, but I don't see the point when she loves fruit (and it's all just sweet to her) and really don't want her being pushed round in a buggy with a bag of chocolate snacks. Sorry, I know I'm being really PFB, but I just don't see the point in starting a potential problem when she's fine without.

reastie sorry you're having a tough time with cc but fingers crossed you're breaking the back of it now. Maybe you really have lost 11kg !

wiggles lol at 'I'm exhausting', I love it when kids come out with things like that. I was once at a prize-giving type thing with some cub scouts, and one of them was presenting the prizes to other cubs, and was all self-important, and kept shaking their hands in v grown up way and saying 'contragulations'. Twas v cute & funny.

jane sorry to hear you're going through a tough time re funeral etc. It's a horrid thing at the 'best' of times so can only imagine how it feels for you. Don't beat yourself up about it tho, Ledkr is right, you need to look after yourself, you've been through more than enough.

Ponyo stop trying to work out what made the amazing night of sleep! That way lies madness.

That's about it for now.

Dx

Oooh and forgot to say I think DH almost poisoned C with Olbas oil last night. We've been putting a couple of drops on her muslin when she goes to bed to try and help the runny nose, and he put her down without, she was quiet and sleepy, and he then went up and did the Olbas oil and came back down again, well did she wail, I then went out into the hall (still downstairs) and could smell it from there, so went and removed offending over-aromatic muslin and she instantly stopped wailing and went straight to sleep. Mean Daddy.

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deliaskis you are not being precious at all. Sofia didn't have chocolate for 18 months or so, think O had it a little earlier because of Sofia and Anna has had a few buttons. Even now S&O would rather have strawberries and grapes than anything else.

I always associate a runny nose with teething!

delia tbh I would have done the exact same catsbumface too in that situation . I always when I look down the baby food aisle and see 'chocolate and vanilla pudding' etc - just doesn't seem right that being sold as a baby food. Nothing at all against those filling their LOs with chocolate and such like it's just I want to leave it as late as possible. I'm sure she was just trying to be helpful though

I have a few AIBUs re: a few issues with MIL I would appreciate some honest opinions on if I really am BU or not (as I am happy to be made YABU). Would I bore anyone by asking?

ponyo I've finished the killing but I'm not sure if needto has. I'm worried about needto now as not heard from her since last night - hope her and Ben are OK today.

back to the killing - wiggles can you fill me on on the alternate ending on the danish version as I was most unsatisfied with US version and tried to watch a bit of the danish one to see who did it in their version but got confused by all the different characters . Go Anna crawling btw

Just put Alice down for another nap - 5 mins and she was asleep . I don't know if it made a difference or if I'm doing something wrong here but I put her in her grobag today and she seems to get to sleep much quicker - could be coincidence though

Dilly had a runny nose for about 3 weeks and lots of sneezing,it did coincide with her 2 teeth as well,there was me thinking that was an old husbands tale.
Dilly is doing my nut in today,has had 2 10 min naps and i cant get on to do anything as she cries when i am out of sight grrr.She's not keen on food cos of her tongue and is too tired to play for long.I had to put my foot down just now as i havent eaten all day,i just plonked her in her high chair whilst i shovelled food into my gob and she threw bread sticks about.
Dilly has choco pudding sometimes,she loves it,its a tradition in my house,i have a picture of all of them with choc smeared all over their mouths
I will just say that i have been very [ahem] relaxed about food with all mine and they all eat healthily have about 3 fillings between them all and are fit and thin.They all eat anything given to them.Ella has crudettes,olives and houmous for lunch today with a yogurt and some oreos for afters,i think all things in moderation.Over the years i have had these children for tea who have restricted pc diets and they are always the greedy ones who cant stop scoffing biscuits. God dont i bang on?Im quite passionate about it can you tell?
ponyo I found just messing up D's routine seems to stop any sleep issues,i too dont analyse any more cos it all goes wrong and as d says makes you mad.
I am going to have to go back to work asap i think ,i am really struggling for money now.

Oh thanks for the walking dead tip ponyo.I will mark it on my calendar.You must read world war z if you like that you will love it.
Come on reastie share the mil strife.I decided mine is a witch when she made dh travel down when he was so tired.

Wow you lot talk a lot!

Having a nightmare with this car, think we'll finally go for it this afternoon (don't ask, it's boring and frustrating!). poor poor woman we're buying it from, 3 kids, lives in a lovely big house but has to sell the car and they have to move from their beautiful family home because her bastard of a husband left her in the summer. I am so angry at him, she seemed just so sad. Going to take her some flowers this afternoon when we finally pick up the car, to say sorry for messing her around and because I think she deserves something nice for her.

reastie 5 minutes is brilliant, she will settle down into sleeping longer soon I'm sure. As delia said you've broken the back of it now, OMG your life will be so much happier and easier now.

Right SW round up. You can eat as much fruit, veg, pasta, potatoes, rice, couscous, lean meat and eggs as you want. They advise you fill your plate with 1/3 fruit and veg though. You also have Healthy Extra A, which is fibre and is crispbread/2 small slices bread/2 weetabix etc, and Healthy Extra B which is calcium so milk or cheese. Then everything else has a SYN value, you can have 5-15 syns a day. Galaxy bars (small) are 12.5 syns. 1tbsp mayo is about 10 . So basically you eat 99% Free food, and have a few extras.

Yesterday I had 4 rashers bacon, 2 eggs, 1 small slice bread fried in Fry Light and an apple for breakfast.

Lunch was leftovers from night before- SW chicken tikka which was YUM, couscous and salad, then some grapes.

Dinner was SW shepherds pie then an Alpen Light bar.

Girls In Bed Reward was a Galaxy Bar.

I can honestly say I was not hungry at all and really enjoyed my food.

Glad I'm not being too PFB re the chocolate pudding then. She has had some (grabbed my biscuit on holiday and scoffed and has had a few tastes of ice cream but she looked very confused), it's more that she does really love fruit so it seems like a question of filling her with one of two things that she likes equally, only one is a bit better for her, and not something I'm going to be trying to limit her eating later on. Ledkr I honestly do try not to be all evangelical about it, I suppose it's the 'in moderation' bit that I don't quite trust MIL with. She already says things like 'well she had had enough dinner then she scoffed all her pudding and was crying for more'. I do kind of worry about her ending up just eating sweet things all the time, as MIL has her two days so it's not just 'the odd occcasion'. But I do need to chill a bit as well. As ever, searching for the elusive middle ground!

reastie do share your latest MIL woes.

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delia I wouldn't worry too much about C, if she is happy in herself and well otherwise. Soem kids just seem to be snotty (sorry!). I'd have been the same with Imy over choc pudding but with S I'm so much less bothered . If it was every day then I might be a bit though.

ponyo yay for a good night :)

ledkr can you stick D in the sling or is she a bit heavy now? I do that with S when she's tired and just wants me all the time. BTW I totally agree with you about food, I mean, we ate rubbish a balanced varied diet when we were kids and we turned out ok.

BTW new car is a Jeep Patriot.

OMG I just spoke to my Mum. My mad aunt went in to my Grannys house and took all the food from her cupboards despite Granny telling her not to and then went and told Granny in hospital she had taken everything . So Granny is distressed and upset as are all of us that she did it. . Granny had written lists of all her foods and who she wanted to have what (bless) . We don't care tbh about whether we got them or not, it's just the principle that mad aunt did this.

OK, MIL bits. They are really really small things (haven't seen them since before holiday so no juicy goss) but I just get confused as to if IABU or not about these things.
1- alices christening is in 5 weeks. My Granny has been give 4 weeks approx left to live. We don't want to cancel the christening again as we just want her christened but my mum is hosting the after tea gathering and it's just too much for us as a bereaved family to host a big do (well, not that big but YKWIM), so we have wondered about just having absolute immediate family come, as in parents grandparents, great grandparents (or lack of ) and god parents. This will be less stress on my mum to host the tea afterwards and I just don't think we will be up to much at that point. So effectively the only people dh have to uninvite (his family are small) is a distant uncle and MILs friend who for some reason got invited (I've only met her twice so don't really know her). I have to uninvite my aunt (not the mad one), uncle and his family and another aunt and uncle (the mad one), oh and my godmother. One of my aunts in particular I am quite close to but we decided if we invite one aunt we'd have to invite them all type thing or it wouldn't be fair. So DH rings MIL to say this is what we might do and came off the phone talking about why can't MILs friend still come and why do we need to reduce numbers and it's not fair to uninvite people etc. It seems MIL isn't happy about her friend not coming (although said she will go along with what we choose). IMO given the extenuating circumstances she should understand why we want to keep it so small, esp given her friend isn't someone we know at all. She thinks it's rude to uninvite someone - maybe it is??? But this isn't a usual situation. Anyway, DH has of course been manipulated by MIL and thinks my family and I ABU for reducing numbers
2 - So DH is going to tell MIL soon re: work arrangements (she will only have alice for a few hours a week not a whole day. There was much discussion about how many hours exactly my mum and his mum were doing from him . He wants MIL to be able to take alice wherever she wishes when she has her one morning a week and that if she wants to take alice on a day trip or whatever she can have alice for the whole day. I'm thinking on it but I want to say no. I (pfb) prob wouldn't at this stage let my parents take alice on a day trip (as in for alices pleasure, not just her tagging along if they went out type thing) and I'm v dubious of MIL taking her out for a prolonged period this young given over tired issues alice has with them and SIL has had big over tired issues with her dds. It's too young. I also don't see why MIL has to take alice out anywhere when she has her - it's just 3 - 4 hours in the morning and she would be welcome to walk to the local shops/around the village/recreation ground if she wanted to get out and about with her. It just feels like if I let her take alice out in the car I have no idea where they are going or what she has decided to do. If she really wants to take alice someone specific then I can get her car seat moved into MILs car but not every week dragging her goodness knows where. Maybe IABU in my thoughts here too??

As I said, they are tiny things but it's so hard to know where my personal annoyance alters my opinion of what is acceptable. If you've got to the end of the post, well done

reastie I'm a bit hmmm about both things. I can sort of see both sides, but with number 1, I think your side takes precedence bearing in mind situation with Granny. I mean it is rude to uninvite people but there are extenuating circumstances. Maybe she would get it more if you just worded things differently? I mean I know I don't know her, but am trying to think about how I would do this with someone who didn't really get the problem. I think I would say 'we're not having a do afterwards at all, because of granny etc, but if you and FIL want to come around for a cup of tea/cake etc. then that would be nice'. So the focus is on there not being a do, but that they are special so they can pop round, rather than on the people being uninvited, IYSWIM. Just a thought...

With number 2, I think in some ways you might have to bend a bit on this one. The thing is, that I don't know what C will be doing at nursery until it's done, they filled in her report on Monday and told me she had been to rhythm time at the library, which was great, but I didn't get advance notice and a 'say' in whether she went or not. I mean we feel as parents that we should get to make all the decisions, but maybe when childcare gets involved (whether family or not) we have to accept that we can't know everything all the time in advance of it happening. I'm going to hope you don't take this the wrong way but maybe part of this is a bit of control-freakery (I say this as a fellow control freak) and as you say some of the personal annoyance. You see, C goes everywhere and anywhere with MIL, she's met DH's aunties way more than I have and went to a baby play session at a village hall near DH's aunty's house the other day (nowhere near where we live). I think the first few times it's happened, it's errmmm...surprising, and then I just kind of got used to it. I suppose I wouldn't want to find out she had been in the car longer than about 45 minutes without knowing about it (only cos for C that is considered a 'long ish' drive), but up to that I would consider ir fair game. I get the concern about over-tired issues etc. but you could argue that she will sleep better having had a full day, and will have the opportunity to sleep in the car/pram etc.

Just my opinion, but she's not my MIL, so might be wrong. Also, YANeverBU when it comes to MILs as we know that on the whole, it's totally fine to think the worst of them at all times .

Dx

I meant might sleep better - this is Alice after all!

reastie you did ask me

1. I don't think you are being unreasonable at all. Immediate family and godparents are fine, you aren't really dis-inviting people, circumstances have changed due to an imminent death in the family, no-one should have an issue with this, especially not a friend of a grandparent.

1. Afraid I'm with your dh, if mil is minding Alice she should be able to take her out for the day, go to whichever shops she needs to go to. If Alice is tired enough she will sleep, she will be almost 9-10 months when your mil takes her (I think), she's fine to go to new places without you. I know you and mil don't get on for good reason but you can't let this colour her time with Alice. Mil either minds her and you trust her or you find another arrangement. She will be minding her in Winter so a walk around the local shops mighn't be feasible and it might be better for them to get out somewhere than stay in.

Thanks for your YA(N)BU comments. I think the second one is a little hard to see that I"M NBU unless you know MIL - I wouldn't mind if it was accompanying MIL to shops or whatever to do bits and pieces but MIL has odd ideas and is a bit warped as to what is acceptable or not and very mindful as to doing what SHE feels is good/right, so the issue there is I can't trust what she will do (I have previous SIL experience with this too). Maybe I should point her in the direction of the lovely tea and cake shop a 2 min walk away . Also, she only has her for 3 hours so it's not like she can do much day trip wise. If she takes her for the whole day that defeats the point of DH having half a day off to spend him with her. I'm glad you think IANBU on the first point though

Totally unrelated but since returning to work a fab new Waitrose has opened up near my office, and I have had lunch from there a few days - posh picnic (brie, pate, ciabatta, sundried tomatoes etc.). Tis v nice and posh, but what cracked me up was the baby product section only has one brand of everything (nappies, wipes, baby food, formula, etc.), and they are:

Apatamil (I think the most expensive formula)
Organic eco nappies
Organic eco wipes
Ella's pouches (not a jar or packet of any other baby food in sight!

Tis my kind of shop
Dx

delia to your waitrose. I am learning new things though - is aptamil the posh milk choice? I must admit, I would have expected a few pampers too - most people I see with Sophie la giraffes seem to se pampers

Forgot to say delia excellent idea re: the asking peeps to christening service but not do a tea after except for the immediates, only thing is most of the uninvited parts of my family are coming a long way (one from scotland) - I think you can't exactly not offer them tea if they were to come

Sorry about your granny, mad aunt and christening problems, reastie. It's tough deciding what to do but everyone should understand. Re: MIL. Are you worried that you will get back from work, go to pick Alice up and find they're not there without any word or notice? I wouldn't worry about her taking her out (but make sure you fit the car seat yourself - my ILs were awful at that!) but it's nice to be able to plan properly with the spare clothes, etc.

Well done on the weight loss debka! Congrats on the new car and the flowers are a lovely idea.

Lol at 'I'm exhausting', wiggles. Oh yes!

I miss Waitrose delia. My Dad works in the petrol station one day a week and the bonus pays for his and my Mum's flights here once a year!

Happy birthday 44me!

I agree with the moderation thing ledkr (though Anna would happily just eat sugar if you let her! ). I have a great photo of S eating a piece of Edward's chocolate birthday cake! Must see if I can upload them!

Well done on the sleep Ponyo. Finally got dh to get up with S last night. Now he's tired - bless!

Jane - best wishes for tomorrow. Look after yourself.

Granny - good luck with the nursery sessions. You get that feeling in the pit of your tummy for about half an hour, then realise you are free!

Hello emski and everyone else. Another coffee is needed methinks. Anna only at school for 2 hours on a Wednesday so I need fortification.

hi tad.

reastie I don't think you are being unreasonable about the christening at all! I do agree with wiggles re: your mil though - sorry.
Hope your Granny is ok.

Happy birthday 4forme, hope you are being spoiled.