Feb 2011- food food glorious food, all over the walls and some in their tummies!

[debka]

Ok bit lame but started a nice new thread cos I put the 1000th post on the last one!

Sounds very familiar wiggles! I have a sore throat from constant repetition shouting ! Hoping she will calm down soon!

Oh and Olivia has also decided that using the word sorry over and over again gives you impunity from any kind of telling off. She is refusing to acknowledge that sorry only works if you try to not do it again - tis charming

Yes, Edward is a bit like that too. If I tell Anna off, she just says 'ok.' They're back from quiet time now, not that I heard any silence for the last twenty minutes!

Hi all, especially tad and 44me nice to see you.

Really need to go to bed but missed you lot and wanted to nosy about what you'd been up to, despite just reading it I have forgotten everything. All I can remember is ledkrs photos of lovely but scarily huge Dilly, and choc making not very Jammu chilli jam which reminded me of killer whales for some reason . Also wiggles mad doppleganger, I think I might have strange dreams tonight....

Lots happening here so probably why I'm frazzled - have to do a statement and might have to go to court (can't say any more-mysterious or what), trying to do my CV for a job that would be perfect - lovely offices just down the road and round the corner from Ns potential nursery, DH stressed with very important exam next week, but had an interview today and has been offered an A&E Consultant Job (proud wifey here). Phew.

Also took N to soft play today, kids in school so they let us go in the big kids bit. He went on the trampoline and i went repeatedly down the slide, think this will be a regular thing . Night night

Jammu rhymes with Shamu borg! Hope dh is nicer to you and doesn't take his stress out on you. Congrats on his job offer!

Sends sleepy vibes to all the babies.

Ohh borg congrats to dh, and good luck to you for the job!

Hi 4forme i missed you, glad you and the kiddies are all well. Hope T's ear is ok.

reastie how was Alice? Hope Granny is comfortable, and you are ok? Oh and step away from the credit card!

I haven't slept very much the past few weeks and I don't have a screaming baby to blame. I am so very anxious about df granny's funeral on thursday. Everytime I close my eyes I keep getting flashbacks of leaving the hospital without Zoe and of her funeral, I had a huge meltdown last night. I feel so alone and isolated at the minute. I hope this passes after the funeral.

jane. Try and be gentle to yourself, you've had a hell of a year and you're under a lot of stress with the wedding too.

reastie so???? Hope you got some sleep. Have a too :)

Ooo borg thought I was the mysterious one?! . Good luck with job and congrats to DH for his promotion.

tad poor you with naughty girl and bad sleeper, 5 teeth isn't bad though! Only 15 to go!

40 and tad I wanted to feed S same as Imy, till about 12-13mo but she is only feeding 1/2x a day now, haven't given her a bottle as I don't really want to introduce one now but it's a constant low level worry that she's not getting enough.

You'll be pleased to hear I've got the wee stinking sofa cushion covers in the washing machine this morning. Don't know what's going on with Imy, she's totally lost the plot with potty training, we're back to stickers and sweeties- any advice from hardened old-timers very welcome!

awww jane it's not suprising you are feeling about funeral. This is bound to be difficult for you given the last funeral you went to. I hope you're OK and that things settle down after thurs. How is DF doing? xx

borg that sounds so cryptic. Excellent work to mrborg though.

deb you see this is why wipeable leather sofas are so good - you can just mop up the wee, don't know why mn hate them so

Right, sleeping update. She finally settled for the night at about 9:30, she did scream in the night but tbh DH took care of the shushing and I don't really remember how many times/long she screamed for. This morning she screamed for her nap again but took 10 mins to get to sleep. I'm hating the screaming but at the same time it's so liberating to have some time to get things done while she is in the cot - makes me realise how bad things had got. Only prob is we are now running late for baby sensory - we should have left 5 mins ago but she's only just gone to sleep so we'll either miss it or turn up super late

Morning all,
Jane, I'm not surprised you feel worried about the funeral, we will all be there holding your hand virtually. Remember how strong you have been to come so far. Zoe will be watching over you and holding your hand too. Does df know how your feeling?

Reastie, it sounds as though Alice is starting to get it and you have been so strong with it, well done! It will be so good for both you and Alice.

Borg, well done to dh on new job, wow, you'll be a consultants wife! Good luck with your job too, sounds ideal!

Deb, glad your cleaning the wee off the sofa. I'm sure Ben had accidents for a good while after he was toilet trained, he even occasionally has them now if he's too busy to 'go'. Finders crossed she gets back on track.

Good to hear from you Tad and Four. Glad all ok

I've been to nursery today to sort out Noahs intro sessions and am surprised by how upset I feel about leaving him. I know he'll be happy but I really enjoy m time with him and am going to miss him so much!

Have a good day all

reastie that is FANTASTIC, 10 minutes is awesome. Imy cried for 10 minutes before EVERY sleep up until she was 1, so don't be surprised if that continues. Some babies just need to 'cry down' a bit. You will feel like a new woman and probably a bit fonder of A too

Thanks for encouragement ems, bit frustrating since she's gone from NO accidents for about 2 weeks to suddenly free-weeing . Sitting on sofa with her now with no covers on, bit nervous.... Good luck with nursery btw. I've never left either of mine, except Imy with my mum occasionally so I can't imagine how hard that must be.

debka don't panic too much about Imy, she's probably just having a bit of a brain block and will be on track soon, she isn't coming down with anything is she? Sometimes mine got a bit side tracked by the not weeing if they were under the weather.

Borg well done to dh, and fingers crossed for you, at Borg and Nates soft play fun - you big child you!

emski I'm the same with A, I feel like I don't want to let her go sometimes, deffo think its because she's the last one, and she's much more fun at this age than S&O were or maybe thats because I'm getting a little more sleep this time

reastie well done on A and the sleeping, it sounds like you are doing really well.

jane sweetheart, some weeks are just shit, your mind is all over the place knowing you have the funeral this week and the wedding, the trying to conceive and all the other life stuff. You don't have to be strong, I know you want to be for df, but you can just wail and howl either in rl or here. If it helps think of Zoe and her great granny together sucking on chocolate buttons and granny type sweets sending you all their love.

wiggles I love the image of zoe and great granny munching on worthers original choc buttons

ems I feel bad enough at the thought of going back to work with DH/DM/MIL sharing care of Alice when I'm away. Hopefully once you're back at work it will be better than the run up to it IYKWIM

DOn't get too excited by the 10 mins to sleep with cc guys - she does seem better in the day than at night anyway so it will be when she goes to sleep at night in 10 mins that I start getting excited. Btw one of the boden outfits has been shipped today - I'm tres excited.

Gtg give alice some munchies....

reastie there's a great PRO CC thread in sleep atm, I've c&p'd a post for you (below) which I thought was really encouraging and contains some good advice from an HV

"I did this with DS1 when he was 6 months old. He was a TERRIBLE sleeper before then. Once he fell asleep - you couldn't move him - or he'd wake up and you'd have to start all overa gain, and the ONLY places he would fall asleep were

A) in the pushchair (being pushed around of course)

B) attached to the breast.

At nights he was sleeping in bed with us (not at all planned LOL) - and once he went to bed I had to go to bed as it was the only way to keep him even vaguely settled. He'd wake up hourly and feed for about 1hr - so I was feeling like cr*p.

When we moved to our new rented house when he was 6 months old we took the plunge.

I did CC as my HV advised..........

Put him down in his cot - on his own (with reassurance - but without looking directly at his face - just patting him while lying down) then walk out.

She said to stand there outside the door for 2 minutes (while they screamed of course lol) then go back in - reassure again - without picking up or direct eye contact.

Then leave the room go downstairs and put the kettle on and make a coffee. - That will take about 5 minutes - go back upstairs and repeat reassurance.

Go back downstairs and drink the coffee/tea.....about 10 minutes...repeate reassurance.

Go back downstairs and crack open the wine (yes honestly that's what my HV advised - and I did) - it helps ease some of the guilt and make it easier for you - as it's not easy listening to them - after 20 minutes return and reassure........repeat ad nauseum every 20 minutes until baby is asleep........

Repeat as nessecary during the night. BUT don't go rushing in the moment they make a noise - leave them 2 minutes first of all.

For the first few days the HV advised to try not to let him sleep too much in the day (to compensate for lack of sleep from his crying during the night) - and to use the technique for his naps too.....amazingly after the first night he settled well for his naps.

Well it was a bl**dy MIRACLE. OK yes - first night it was 2hrs and 52 minutes from first being put in his cot - but he finally went to sleep. He stirred once in the night....I crawled wearily out of bed and waited at the door - 30 seconds later he'd settled himself again. And slept the entire night!

The following night only took 30 minutes, then the night after that 10 minutes (with no waking during the night once he was asleep!). The 10 minutes lasted for 2/3 weeks (and by the end of week one I just left him for the full 10 minutes rather than doing the 2,5, 10 minute thing). Then suddenly he stopped - and it was 2 seconds of crying as I walked out the door of his room and then he settled.

It was a godsend. From hour long feeds every hour during the night, and a baby that wouldn't go to sleep unless he was attached to my breast (literally) to a baby that slept through........AND he suddenly became a happier baby - he laughed and smiled more than ever before because he wasn't so tired.

Thanks deb that is reassuring, but I guess different things work for different babies. I have a q for you cc guru - Alice is waking from day naps alot sooner than she would usually, so has only been napping for 10 - 30 mins at a time. I don't go in straight away to see if she will settle again but I assume it's OK to go in and pick her up as if her nap has finished in this instance or should I leave her as long as I think she might need (which is hard as tbh I never know). Btw Alice has started crying every time I take her in her bedroom now even if it's to change her nappy

Just bumped into 3 elderly neighbours as I walked to the recreation ground with Alice so they all had a good gander at her. One slightly alcoholic neighbour told me it would snow next week - I couldn't actually work out if he was joking, serious or drunk

Btw - am going to look at another second hand high chair tomorrow as our posh wooden one just isn't working very well for us and I've been envious of how well the plastic ones are more comfy/practical since Alice used benneedtos high chair when we saw them. She's put on the ad (on netmums ) £20 but will accept sensible offers. Since we've already gone out and bought one highchair and I'm buying another (although the posh one we'll keep as it's one of those ones that turns into a chair when they are older) is it incredibly cheeky to only offer £10 to her and see what she says? I'm terrible at this sort of thing and don't want to be rude but equally don't want to spend much

deb i reckon thats my kind of cc involving some wine seriously tho,i hardly drink anymore cos i find it makes me feel too groggy to deal with Dilly if she wakes.
Well my Dills surprised us all by doing 8-7 I was all worried.As i said before tho i dont get excited anymore as we've been here before.
She has oral thrush so spent all day in Drs or chasing around pharmacies for the prescription.Dh was a bit as to the thrush as he associates it with fanjos
jane Its a pity you have to go tbh.In my family we would be happy for you not to but i can imagine my pils would be horrified.If you feel too bad make a f'ing excuse,i had the funeral of a friend a few weeks aftyer my cancer diagnosis and found it very hard as i was imagining id be next,his Mum was lovely and said they hadnt expected me to go.
Bloody funerals are horrible,i want my family to have a big party when i go-preferably before haha.

reastie I wouldn't offer her 50% less than she's asking, but then I'm notoriously crap at stuff like this too. We used to have the worldest worst window cleaner and I used to almost pay him double for windows that were dirtier after he left Mr W depairs Btw - our cheapo Ikea highchair which is fab was only £16 with the tray.

Hello all,

Jane How are you feeling this eve? For what its worth I completely agree with wiggles in that you have every right to howl, get angry, sad or hide away. I can't imagine how tough this is but you will get through it and you will be happy again x

reastie at converting you to the plastic high chair! Must admit it's very easy to clean, offer £10, I don't think thats a bad offer at all. Fingers crossed for tonight with A....

Had a horrible afternoon, b woke up after his afternoon nap absolutely screaming and worse than any time before. Managed to calm him down after about 30 mins and as he was refusing his bottle I tried to give him some food, he had a couple of mouthfuls then fainted. It was only for a few seconds but he just slumped in his high chair and then came to. Was so frightening, took him to the walk in clinic and doctor reassured us that it was a result of him crying and that he has a sore throat but everything else is fine but I'm so scared now. Has anyone else experienced this? Keep thinking of the epileptic children I used to work with and panicking, completely over the top I know. He's now sleeping and he had all his bottle and seems fine but don't know what to do with myself.

needto God that soounds so scarey, I hope you and Ben are ok now?

Thanks girls, I am much the same today I have a friend on her way round just now (df is working in sheffield).

reastie fingers crossed for an easier night with A. I would offer her the £10 too, the worst she can say is feck off no.

Needto how scary and horrible, I'd be scared shitless too, even though I'm sure like the doc says he's fine. Sorry to hear about panic attack too, how are you feeling now? What a rubbish couple of days for you! At the least the monkey suit might stay out of the way now

reastie I thought you meant you were going to offer Needto £10 for her high chair and wondered why you were posting it on here Well done for sticking out the cc, think you are very strong to be able to do it and sounds like its benefitting A too?

jane hope you're ok, not surprised you're feeling rubbish about Thurs, like others have said do you have to go? Hope the feeling does pass after thrus anyway.

Can I have a moan please ladies, I had a job interview today (my mum was here since last night looking after A which is why I've not been posting, just lurking ) it was my ideal job and a year and a half ago I applied for it and was offered it. Then I found out I was pregnant with A so turned it down - obv best decision I've made as A turned up months later! - then I saw the job advertised again but with part time hours Anyway I just missed out on the interview, they said I was good ( I thought I was crap) but someone else was just that bit better. /i am gutted - I thought I'd be ok but feel a bit woe. I have to help Just thought I'd have a massive little moan about it - any tales to cheer me up like Imy straining to wee or Borg charging round the soft play? Oh orwgs gate crashing ledkrs holiday haha.

ledkr lovely pics of giant Dils and bootiful Ella btw.

needto-did he have a temp?could it have been a febrile convulsion?id keep a close eye on him and see dr if he gets hot.
poor dilly cant eat much as it hurts her tongue,its spread to her bottom now too.

needto that sounds so frightening, I know it easy to say but if the Dr had any worries he'd have sent you to A&E right away

Ponyo I was wondering where you had disappeared to Absolute shite about the job, I hate it when things like that happen, you are not being woe is me, its bloody annoying and I always feel personally rejected when that happens.

jane glad you have some company tonight xx

ledkr missed your earlier posts - poor Dilly, hope she feels better soon

Thank you for your support, feel like crying which is very over the top I know.
ledkr he didn't have a temp at all, at first when he was screaming I thought he'd hurt himself in his cot but he doesnt have any bruises or sore bits. We keep checking on him and have the monitor on. The doctor said it can happen after a baby has been crying a lot and it's not uncommon so praying it doesn't happen again.
So sorry to hear about D's feeding, she's been such a trooper with this and that operation can't come soon enough.

ponyo so sorry about the job, its good you got the positive feedback though so concentrate on that and you never know what will come along next.

Forgot to mention earlier but good luck Borg for your job and well done mrborg!

Hi all, just got back from Rainbows Autumn Fayre. We were selling cakes, yum. Came back to loads of washing as Noah had been sick all over dh, the sofa bed, his sleep suit and grobag. Am crossing my fingers that it's a one off!

Need to, I'm horrified for you, that must have been so frightening. Keep an eye on him over the next few days, not that you wouldn't, and that will hopefully reassure you.

Ledkr, sorry about D's thrush, must be really unpleasant for her.

Ponyo, sorry about the job. I too have always taken it personally when I haven't been successful at an interview. At least you know they liked you though, chin up!

Reastie, I've read that if baby wakes too early from nap to try to get them back to sleep , but give up after 10 minutes and just move the next nap forward. It sounds as though your both doing really well with the cc.

I'm very excited as I requested the mums net book of the month and just had an email to say my copy is on the way!! I never 'win' anything!

ledkr poor Dilly with thrush. What medication did you get? I only ask as Alice had it and the GP prescribed some useless medicine (forget the name) which didn't work. Mw told me daktarin is the best thing but GPs can be about prescribing it for babies for some reason.

needto to the fainting episode. That's so scary but I think wiggles is right - they are always over cautious with this type of thing so if the doctor was worried you would have been told to get it checked. Do you think the sore throat was due to the crying or a sore throat? Maybe he just had a pain in his body for a little while?