Feb 2011- food food glorious food, all over the walls and some in their tummies!

[debka]

Ok bit lame but started a nice new thread cos I put the 1000th post on the last one!

Reastie, I think i can completely understand your mil problem with Alice. I was exactly the same when Ben was a baby, mil had him once a week while I was at work and she was only allowed to take him to Morrisons across the road! I found it ssssooooooo hard to let go of the control. I only let her drive with Ben in the car about a year ago! With Noah I'm completely confident and will pretty much let het do what she wants when she has him on a Tuesday when I go back to work. Have you thought about explaining to mil/dh and say your sure it will get easier but for the first while could she just take A out fir walks locally, then when your used to it let her take her further afield? I joke about it with my mil now but it really was terrible for at least two years of her having Ben one day a week. I found it all I credibly difficult so know exactly how your feeling.

Hi Tad, glad your dh gets to be tired for a change!

The rest of you talk sooooooo much. I pretty much didn't let Ben have chocolate til his first birthday then let him stuff himself with cake! He asks for chocolate alot but is also happy to have fruit, I have a feeling Noah will have cake at Bens birthday parties in a few weeks! Is anyone else finding it hard/boring now thinking of what to feed the babies? I'm running out of ideas!

Im surprised i didnt get a minor flaming for my food attitude,i wasnt trying to be bossy its just worked for me.I was once told by a psychologist that all food issues start in childhood,she also said that when we prohibit a desert if a main hasnt been eaten we are giving the message that sweet is a reward and savoury a toil iyswim.I buy only brown bread,wholegrain cereal and real butter as i feel that whole foods are more important than limiting a few biccys.
Um reastie nbu re the christening-i am putting D's off due to the pressure to have a "do" which i cant afford or be bothered with.
The taking her out is exactly how i would be cos i basically dont like mil so wouldnt want her to get what she wants but Dilly would like to go out and so would Alice.I learned with my ex knobhead to always act in the interests of the kids and not him-it works.
Well d has been awake since 6am,i havent managed to get anything done and feel exhausted.I wonder why they do this some days?It is normally followed by a crap night too.
I had a mad rush to get Ella to dancing and felt so stressed i had a small glass of wine at 5
Is anyone else missing their wages now?I feel really stressed about money,and cant even think about xmas.There really is no point in going back to work at xmas tho and having to find childcare for 2 kids.
I have a tiny amount of savings i am going to have to use now,i always loved knowing i had a bit put by too.Dh's wages are ok but we are used to 2 incomes.
Has anyone been watching "the fades" on bbc3 its really good,tis on tomorrow i think.

emski I'm finding it quite difficult to think of things for A at the minute, she seems to be refusing food quite a bit even her favourites, she won't put anything in her mouth apart from dried apricots and although that makes for lovely nappies (pooey) I'd feel happier if she would get back in the swing of things!

jane what time is the funeral tomorrow? Do you have to go to anything tonight or is it just tomorrow?

Sorry had to tell you this.Every night when Dilly is in the bath she leans forward and strains untill the veins pop out in her head,she then lets out a massive fart and giggles.She does this every night about 3-4 times but doesnt do a pooh just a big fart.IU cannot believe it.She can fart on demand just to make bubbles!

ledkr xposted - I'm up shit creek without a paddle re money, my Maternity Allowance finishes next week, and I took 2 weeks of annual leave for the last week in Oct/first week of Nov, but have a few weeks with nothing coming in at all Mr Ws wages are alright but eaten up with the mortgage, cars, bills, heating, insurance etc etc etc

I'm not too bad re Christmas because I'll be back working but am starting to put bits and pieces away, so I'm not stung by a huge outgoing in December especially with the big mans big birthday the feckin' week before Christmas.

I wouldn't worry about us thinking you're bossy, we've known you for over a year now, we know you're a bossy one

Hello all,
Well B seems absolutely fine today, I've been watching him very closely and no signs of anything out of the ordinary. Starting to relax about it slowly but still feel a bit

wiggles I'm certain you have some kind of super power now with your incredible memory, how do you do it? I can barely remember how old I am which isn't a bad thing on the whole

deb that is fab news re weight loss and it sounds like a really good diet. I think if you are denied anything you just crave it more so it's good you can still get your chocolate fix

delia I completely understand the no/ limited chocolate thing with C, logically I agree with ledkr in that everything in moderation but am so frightened of creating a sugar monster. Also with my history with eating disorders I don't want food to be seen as a treat/ punishment, it's such a difficult thing but then we're lucky to have the choice.

reastie it is so difficult re the mil issue (btw, with issue number one, you are definitely NBU!), as she is going to be having A for a few hours a week for a few years (I assume) then she has to be given some say in what she does with her (and from what you've told me I think it's possible she may lie to you about what she's done if you say not to do certain things). If you have certain things that you definitely don't want alice to do then it's completely up to you to tell her and have her respect this (maybe you could tell her you've told your mum the same thing so as not to single her out iyswim) but as to taking her out for special treats involving the car then maybe you could give her the benefit of the doubt as long as she tells you or texts you at work. I know I'm rambling here and hope you get what I mean, it's just that I think that for this to work you need to be open with each other.
I get a bit frustrated when my ILs look after b for a few hours and just keep him at home as he loves going out.

Jane glad you're feeling brighter after last night, crying is actually proven to make you feel better (something to do with releasing a certain chemical in the tears) so don't bottle it up.

Am amazed at 6 teeth granny , can I ask what ones have come through after the four front ones? so I'm prepared for the next teething tantrums

So tired as have been walking for six hours and need to go and catch up on downtown before I have an early night, sorry if I've forgotten anyone but hope you all have peaceful nights

So glad B is better Needto - walking for 6 hours? Where have you been?

Hope all the money stuff sorts itself out. Bloody freezing here today. Might put the heating back on. Tis only 18C in the house! Wishing you all peaceful bedtimes.

needto a 6 hour walk?? Im glad Ben is ok today.

wiggles Funeral is just a cremation and a wake, a different crematorium to the one we had Zoe's service in thankfully! I have just told DF I am not able to go in the funeral car and he is feeling exactly the same. God it's such a relief to know he has the same feelings.

I'm having a quiet night, just had a relaxing bath and heading to bed soon. hope all the babies sleep well.

NeedToSleep great news about B, hope you sleep well.

jane you take care of yourself tomorrow, will be thinking of you and df - I've a feeling you've a keeper there . Anything you don't feel you can handle, just excuse yourself and leave and if anyone gives you any grief, I'll knock their bleep in xx

tad bloody freezing here and dark and windy, I've dug the girls v cute winter hats out and heating is already on!

needto the last 2 to come thru were the 2 either side if the top2 front ones. Now think they're might be more coming thru ..he was well narky, refused some food & some naps today...hoping to god he sleeps thru tonight!

Thank you much for the IAM(U)R comments. I like ledkrs logic of ignore what I think go with what's best for Alice. Thing is, I can't see how a big day trip of being constantly over stimulated and ending out exceedingly over tired (should she want to have her the whole day) is a good thing. I WILL be more relaxed when Alice is a bit older (obv ) but at this point while she's little and while I'm getting used to leaving her personally I think I'll ask for her to stay at home, just initially, and then reassess in a few months after i'm back. I may be being unreasonable but I think so long as I tell my Mum the same thing and until I get used to the idea of leaving Alice etc it's not so bad . I'm glad ems understands me though and makes me feel a little less freakish

needto glad ben seems OK today . 6 hours walk? goodness me. Btw how is the knee injury?

ledkr and to the farting on demand. I wonder who she gets that delight from

grannyapple hope you get some sleep

Sleeping update here - took an hour and a half of screaming before she went to sleep and she's crying again now :( Cc guru deb shouldn't it be better by now? I could put up with the crying initially as I thought it would only be a day or so but this is day 3 now and it's getting harder to cope with. She is better with day time naps so it is having a big effect but she also looks so upset and distraught when she wakes up from her naps in a hopeless looking way and she's never been very good at sleeping in the evening EVER so I'm not sure if it's just a harder nut to crack or if she will just always be up in the evening - deb advice please

jane I hope you manage to get a bit of sleep tonight and will be thinking of you tomorrow. Apologies if I missed this but what time is it?

It's cold here tonight too, but no heating yet, just wooly socks and jumper to bed [cheap skate]

Wow lots to read -

wigs thanks for the message, interesting ending to the american one.

reastie no advice but you've done so well so far and A won't remember anything about the cc soon enough - good luck for tonight! Oh and YANBU, the only person I let look after A is my mum, partly b'cos she doesn't know/recognise anyone else (except my sis who loves her but would no way change a pooey nappy ) and partly b'cos I can be bossy and tell my mum what she must do and when in a very pfb fashion So not sure about how nursery will go But do what you think is best for A, you're her mum, you know whats best.

jane will be thinking of you tomorrow. If you don't sleep well tonight hopefully you will tomo night.

Needto glad B is ok. SIX hours of walking

Ok I have to confess that I bought A a choc baby pudding in a jar today so I did laugh when I saw the baby food comments (especially reasties ) I also bought her some ellas fruit pouches and made her chicken and basil from AK book so that ok isn't it

Oh and A weighs 15lbs 3oz - moving up towards the next centile, must be all the chocolate pudding (joking!)

We took A to goose fair (if anyone has heard of it) this evening before bed, she had a very serious expression the whole way around but was looking at the lights and people too. Hopefully it has worn her out for a good sleep though she is moaning a bit on the monitor now...

Sorry can't reply to anyone else, hope everyone gets a good nights sleep xx

at goose fair! Will be taking the kids to the pumpkin patch over the next couple of weeks to pick out our pumpkins etc!

Hello!!! how are you all? it's so bloody hard to keep up with you guys!!
needto sorry I missedwhat was going on with Ben, but glad it's getting better.
ledkr I missed the pudding debate but I agree and so does my recipe book (the river cottage baby and toddler book).
Well done D for the farting on demand, I haven't mastered that skill yet!
I also will spend half Nov and the whole of Dec with no wages, going back to work in Jan but won't see a payslip until Feb!!! and on top of things we are paying for my parents to come for Christmas. Eating up savings is horrid.
granny six teeth!!!
P is doing well, he's started pulling himself up, which is really stressful as he's already cried from head-bumps a million times today, and due to co-sleeping he's not in a cot for naps, so his dives out of the bed are frankly terrifying. BLW is going well, yesterday we had mushrooms in and today out as if they had never been inside him at all!
Sorry to be so out of the loop with everything else, but you guys are always in my mind. Xxxx

Thank you for my birthday messages, have had a lovely day and the kids have enjoyed all the excitement (I am a birthday diva- dancing round the kitchen singing "today is all about me me me!") but still have made tea, done two loads of washing!!

jane big hugs. Think about you loads.

reastie well done with the cc, it'll be worth it in the end.

Well done deb !

Night night sleep well babies.

Just quickly before b wakes up, so sorry didn't say before 44me but glad you had a good birthday!

Jane I hope things go as well as they can today, will be thinking of you x

Just to add, I may have exaggerated about six hour walk (I'm not Ben fogle's sister or something), I just meant I'd been out for six hours with b in the pram and had walked a lot!

Testing new Halloween name.....

Hooray!

Great name needto id say if you have a history of ed then defo chill around food.I had 3 under 6 so im afraid food went on the table and was cleared away afterwards,i never stressed about it.Ella used to go a few days with hardly a nibble but then eat like a pig for another few days.
I was worried more about dilly cos of her cleft but ive even found since i stopped bothering she's been great,ehr cleft nurse cant even believe what she manages to eat.
reastie With knobhead,i see it as my job to help her to enjoy a relationship with her Dad even tho i hate him,that said i use my judgement re what he does with her cos he drives like a maniac and smokes weed!So its short daytime visits only.Mil may end up one of A's fav people and that can only be good!
Thanks for the sharing re money.I feel a bit better today i will have to use my savings and stop stressing about xmas,my boys will understand and dh said he can keep us.and Dilly has to be my priority.
I think i had astressy day cos D wouldnt nap.I woke up at 6 with the worse migraine and was sick about 20 times.In the end i had to call my Mum who rushed up on a mercy mission to get the baby and drop Els at school but now i dont feel too bad,i feel abit fraudulent but am going to have a rest now its done.
milkGlad you are well and P is eating/poohing well Im amazed how many people agree about the food too.
Jane God its a relief when someone admits to feeling like you isnt it?It will soon be over and you can get on with planning the Wedding of the year.I was thinking we could have another pink day on that day ladies-as we arent invited-tsk.Or wear button holes and drink champers cava at the same time and have a toast.

Afternoon,

Lots to read, have forgotten everything as usual. ledkr oh that sounds nasty, hope you get some rest and glad you're feeling a bit better.
needtocreep ha ha, great name. Glad Ben is okay. Apparently there is reflex anoxic episodes where babies pass out due to stress e.g. crying, some do it with breath holding. It's nothing to worry about but scary - it may have just been that, and if no more episodes then sounds very reassuring. I like the idea of you and Ben out on 6 hour walk up hill and down dale, please let me keep that image!
jane good luck with the funeral, you are so brave, and so thoughtful to think of DFs family and try to put them first.
44 hope you had a nice birthday. I'm asking for sleep for mine!
milkmachine congratulations pablo on the pulling up, clever baby

oh sorry have to attend to the snotty one. He also has a minging rash at the moment. I'm a bit worried (not for him) but we have his photoshoot on sun and I want him to look pretty!

Sorry for not getting round to saying hello to everyone, just to quickly say reastie I am really PFB with N and frankly don't let anyone do anything with him. Have only just started letting my dad take him in the pram as I thought my dad was a bit old and wobbly on his feet and they might fall down a ravine

Hi ladies, just checking in. Ledkr interesting what you say about money etc. as DH and I were both saying only the other night that getting my first full salary again (September's paycheck) came at what felt like just the right time, we hadn't by that point started to feel the pinch that much, but were losing the ability to cover unexpected things like repairs to stuff or whatever.

We're also moving house this month so I would be having a cow if I wasn't getting my salary by that point as there are always things you spend money on unexpectedly, no matter how carefully you budget.

D

Hello ladies, just spent an age catching up but I'm so crap I have forgotten most of it already!
ledkr/wiggles I am the same re money, the timing is bad with Christmas coming up too.
debka sounds like you are doing really well on SW, good on you!
reastie I know MIL issues are a minefield so rather than weigh in I shall offer a sympathetic hand squeeze!
delia eek re moving house, most stressful thing ever IMO, but I bet you are looking forward to being in your new house.
ponyo sorry about job, but at least you know you give good interview which should be a confidence boost after being in mummy land for so long! Glad A enjoyed goose fair, think we will be taking all 3 DCs on saturday, I am secretly looking forward to a pot of mushy peas with mint sauce!
jane hope you are as OK as possible today, I know it will be horrid x
milkmachine I swear Cass has bashed her head a million times since she learned to stand, she seems to forget she's meant to hold on to things and just plummet to the ground, horrible isnt it?

Quick moan from me, I am zombified with exhaustion. Cass is being such a nightmare. She has started rejecting milk in the day then expecting 2 full bottles during the night, plus lying awake for up to two hours at a time, last night it was from 12 30 til 2 30. I can't nap in the day when she does, never have been able to, DP is gently hinting that our sex life is suffering cause I'm always tired (sorry if TMI) and I'm just getting really sick of not being able to predict her sleeping patterns. I know its part of the deal with babies but I hate it :( sorry to whinge but when I actually type it out it makes me feel a bit sad. Don't see things improving any time soon. Ah well, never mind hey, I have had my moan!

hello all,

jane how are you getting on?

mizk for the sleeping situ. Hope it improves soon. I'm not suprised you're not up for any action being so tired - why can't men understand this

Re: money we are going to be super tight with chrimbo this year - I'm making gifts for most people (so they can jolly well lump it whether they like them or not). We arn't great money wise at the min but hopefully have enough to still eat until christmas and we have a nice dining room fireplace we can burn lots of wood my dad has saved up in his garden and live in the dining room if needed

ledkr I started watching that prog you mentioned (forget the name) on BBC 3 but it was too scary for me - where did my rock hard exterior go . Btw I have no doubt that MIL will be really good with Alice (from Alices perspective) when she is older, it's just MIL isn't v good with babies I don't think. She doesn't seem to realise (no matter how obvious it is) how tired they get and how easy it is to over do it. In a couple of years I may well be singing her praises in a limited type of way

delia hope the house moving goes OK. I know most people say it's better to move house when pg than with a baby but IMO I would have rather done the actual moving with Alice than when pg, I guess the prob is finding the time to pack etc unless you can afford someone to do it all for you

borg I hope N looks beautiful for the week end and I shall expect to see photographic evidence to judge this

needto love the nn change. I've been trying to think of one but just can't have any wit today

Will someone tell me what a goose fair is please? Is it actually anything to do with lots of geese?

I need some hand holding ladies with the cc. We are on day 4 and she's gone back a step. We had screaming for about 2 hrs last night and today she's screamed for over half an hour to get to sleep despite being tired. She got herself to sleep fine when we were out this morning in the car . I feel like such a horrible mother and it's going against every instinct I have. I could take it if it was only a couple of days but I thought she was meant to be settled by now . She has a croaky throat from all the screaming this week bless her so whenever she talks or cries she sounds all funny . Spoke to hv today who said if I'm going to try it I should give it 2 weeks to know if it will work or not. So I might have to put up with another 10 days of this. She's started crying whenever she goes in ehr room now even if it's a nappy change as she thinks I"m going to leave her there. I feel such an abandoner :(

mizk that should have been a not an

Afternoon all, I've been told to come and say hello by Reastie So hello! Hope you and yours are all doing well. Things are marvellous here, A is doing so well. No idea how much she weighs, I think it was about 20lb last time I got her weighed but I can't remember how long ago that was- a month maybe? She's a whopper, she's tall with long legs like DH.

Still tandem feeding and A has taken to solids V well. She loves cucumber (I think she's teething so it's nice and cool on her gums) and the other night she scoffed some meatball. Most things still go on the floor so the cats are getting a bit porky.

Right, I'm going to have a read through and try and catch up!

Hi Eau! Glad to hear you and A are doing well.

ledkr poor you with the migraine, i hope you enjoyed your rest.

borg You could ask the photographer to airbrush Nate!

The funeral was ok, I didn't cry during it though. I did however shed a few tears afterwards when mils friend spoke to me about Zoe. I don't know if I'm being unreasonable but during the funeral the minister mentioned all of the grand children and great grand children by name but nothing about Zoe. she was granny's great grandaughter too and still very much part of the family's life. I am feeling rather upset about it.