Dec 08 Ladies - LIghtning Strikes... and the usual gossip!

[Beans33]

Hope this works for everyone - I'm assuming Summer won't give birth in the next few hours!! x

aaahhh the old regression / new sibling thing.... yes I def think it could be a touch of that, but he was doing it before she came along, though I have said he could sense her and all.

Right both kids fed, one bathed and two asleep happy days.

Quiet on here.... that said, I've been on here waaaay too much today

I have given in and given DD2 a dummy... It works!!! She's wide awake in her cot, but silent. Little bird. She's been so good the last couple of days, I feel like a new wman.

JJ - I'm so sorry about the scare - horrid for you. And glad all ok. Oh to have a doctor husband. Although I guess an accountants useful on money front. I'm fretting now as he keeps saying we can't afford to send DD1 to nursery and I really do need the break. Besides, it's going to be so good for her to meet new littles and to socialise - she's a bit weedy round other kids. I feel bad that it's going to cost us, but by the same token, I feel like it's my sanity we're buying!!!

PS Pubes - DD never puts words together and quite a lot of her NCT mates don't have any words apart from yes and no, so don't worry at all about his speech - they all do it at their own pace and he'll come to it when he's ready.

I love take aways and DD1 loves Beebies. In fact, it was one of her first words!!!

If it's any consolation, T doesn't string any words together and often opens his mouth to be fed like a little bird! I think it just takes some a while to catch up. Least that's what I tell myself.

Rubes, the only reason I'm sure it's a boy is because I'm having an identical pregnancy and all my dreams have been about boys. So it's conclusive! Thanks v much for the offer of clothes though, I'd love to come and visit you anyway, I wonder how long it would take to get to you from Brighton?

Good news on the dummy, Beans, they're wonderful things if they take to them. I'd stand your ground on nursery though, how many days or half days were you planning on putting her in?

Beans I was very anti dummy with ds but then gave him one when he had colic as the midwife said i was doing more harm letting him cry in more air, but got rid of it in 3 swift days at 6 months, so this time I have one on standby and I pulled it out the othernight (twice) and she just spat it. I will have it still on standby.... I think it's even more essential now that we have the toddlers at the delightful age to deal with as well!
Spot you're more than welcome. I will be reminding on Friday for you to FB me your address if you find out it's another boy. I need to get rid of it all anyway as it's a big bag of clothes taking up space in dd's room, so you'd be doing me a favour! For the record, my mum had a dream that I had 2 boys close together, as did I. We only had a boys name picked out (Samuel) and I had the exact same pregnancy as well (however slightly more heartburn) I do have a feeling though, that you are having another boy too.
Apparently here to brighton would be about an hour if traffic was good according to DH - in fact db went there while he stayed and in fact did get back in an hour.

Thanks for the new thread Beans

DD only uses words on their own, and probably only has about 10 words in her vocab anyway. Actually she often answers my questions with 'no no yes no', whatever that may mean I have no doubt she'll be a chatterbox one day though, as her babbling is in a league of its own - accompanied by over enthusiastic hand gestures

Beans/Veg I'm interested why you were anti BF, but still gave it a go? I think if I'd been anti it my boobs would've stayed firmly tucked away!

I've had a lovely day today - I've had the day off work to catch up from being away this weekend. DD went to nursery this morning as usual and in 4 hours I swam 40 lengths, did my grocery shopping plus popped into the garden centre for a couple of plants, cleaned the bathroom and mopped the floor in their, hoovered upstairs, did 2 loads of washing, mopped the kitchen floor and made myself lunch that was more than just sandwiches. I am superwoman. And then this afternoon we met my best friend and goddaughter and went strawberry picking - DD is an amazing strawberry finder, like a pig hunting for truffles - but she was drenched in juice, which rather gave the game away when we went to pay! Lots of fun though

Rubes, that's my favourite name for a boy but as DP's surname begins with S he's a bit anti. I also wonder if Tom and Sam is a bit like a double act on Britain's Got Talent but we will def be going for something along those lines. Would love to come and see you, and if it's only an hour or so that's dead easy. We're around on Tues, Weds and Thurs in the week so FB me a date and I'd love to come along!

ZJ that sounds like a lovely day, blimey you don't half put me to shame with all your activity! I think I'd have spent my day off reading the paper and eating cake!

Hello everyone, I'm back from holiday in Sweden and we and other road users survived my driving on the wrong side of the road. I have tried to read through and catch up with what's been happening but sorry if I've missed anything/anyone. In no particular order:-

Beans How scary for you having that accident in the car. Sounds like you handled it very well and were very kind to the cyclist. Sorry to hear about your sister. Sweet though that she thinks of you as the little sister that needs to be protected from all nastiness in the world. On a happier note, hurray for DD2 rolling over. What a talented little girl.

Zoe Glad the train trip went well. It's funny that you mentioned your DD wobbling your tummy. My DS is fascinated by tummy buttons and I have to confess that I had to use this to distract him on the flight home from Sweden - sorry to other travellers who may have had a flash of my wobbly tum.

LadyT You must be relieved to have had some good advice from the dietician and I'm another one waiting for the details. On holiday, my sister's little girl ate nothing voluntarily other than chocolate and my sister is at her tits' end. Glad you had a well earned pampering in Brussells.

Summer Like Indith, once I had accepted that I was going to be induced, DS came along on his own (fast!).

Rubena I hope the Lansinoh helps and sorry to hear you are missing your family. I hope one of the Dec 08 mums pop round to cheer you up.

Urbane Hope your DH has chilled out and that you are now enjoying your holiday.

Avo I had the baby voice thing with our DD1 and you have my sympathy. I read somewhere not to respond to the baby voice other than to ask for her to repeat what she had said in her Katie voice. It helped a lot and she only does it very occasionally now. at the money in the gutter!

JJ Sorry to hear about your scare. It was lucky your DH was able to check and put your mind at rest.

Congratulations Jolly. Fingers crossed for you.

Trace Hope you are having a lovely time in Wales.

Now for a bit of a me post, apologies in advance: DH was in such a bad mood when he picked us up from the airport on Sunday and for all the rest of the day. I was very upset as, although things have been tricky between us, I was surprised to discover I missed him a lot while I was in Sweden and so his behaviour was a real slap in the face. This made me suspicious of what he had been up to while I was away so, although I know it is really bad but, I did some digging and found he has been up to his old tricks again. This is the third time I've caught him and I had promised myself no more chances so I rang him at work to say not to bother coming home that evening. I know I'm probably not making a lot of sense. It's a long story and probably too boring and sordid for anyone to read about. It's not an affair though. DH said he was coming home right away to talk and I took the DCs to my mum's to get them out of the way. As I'm an idiot, I've let him talk me into trying to sort this mess out but I have insisted that he sees the GP and he has made an appointment for Friday. I've also said we need to have counselling together and he will ask the GP if he can recommend someone or tell us how to find someone. I have also stipulated that our DIY SOS house needs to be sorted out pronto so we can sell it as this is the other big wedge between us. Well if anyone's still awake after that thanks for reading, writing it down has done me some good as it's not something I can discuss with friends and certainly not with my mum without shocking her out of her mind.

Oh Nolda I have absolutely no idea what's going on but it all sounds quite a stress for you, but good on you for hitting it head on. Also I can't believe you had all that going on but you still wrote personal responses to people first! I wish I could make you a nice cup of tea and some chocolate cake.

ZJ I wasn't actually anti BF I just found the idea of it a bit yuk. I used to feel a bit urgh whenever I walked in on a mum at work expressing. But as I grew up in Australia where it's considered the usual thing to at least start off BF I always knew I would BF just maybe for not very long. As it turned out I really loved BF and became quite intrigued by it so actually read up on it a bit and was quite amazed by it and obviously I got into the medical- political history too.

Spot I don't know why but I think your having a boy too.

Nolda: whatever it is, your DH needs to respect your views and justify your trust in him. It must be so hard not being able to talk about it. Besides the couples counselling, could you look into some counselling for yourself? A neutral sounding board may be a help in working things through in your head. Am thinking of you xxp

No idea how that p got in there. Bloody phone!

Thanks for the virtual tea and cake, Veggie.

Effie I hadn't thought of having counselling for just me. Could well be a good idea as my trust levels were rocky before this as my only serious relationship before DH ended as my then boyfriend was shagging our mutual flatmate! Would mean me taking some positive action though as it has been much easier to make DH do things, as some kind of punishment, I guess.

Spot I think you're having a boy too but maybe your certainty is just infectious.

My thinking is that even if he doesn't cooperate in the couples session, you would still be making progress. WG may have more advice as i think she and her DH have done some couples sessions.

beans thanks for the new thread!

Nolda I'm sorry about your troubles with DH, I am not very good at this sort of thing. But i do hope that you manage to sort it out.

Not had a proper catch up but wanted to say to Rubes that DS is practically mute, well apart from 'tadpole' and yesterday he screamed 'Hannah' so very clearly when his little friend called Hannah was colected from creche by her mum! Other than that we have grunts and loads of finger pointing.

DH off work sick with a bad back so I now have 3 children to look after! Hopefully back later.....

Oh and summer get a bloody move on girl! I want more birthing tales

Hello everyone,

nolda Sorry to hear you are having a hard time. Effie's suggestion re counselling is a good one. I wish I could say something reasurring or help in some way.

zoe Wow what a productive day! Domestic Goddess! I'd have been slumbed on the sofa with a magazine .

ladyT I'm really interested to hear what the nutritionist had to say too. I think we are all confused by our DC's approach to eating at times (apart from those blessed with super duper eaters!). I can't believe people were tutting you when you were taking DD out of the dining room! How very rude.

Rubes You sound like you are coping amazingly well!

Thank you all for your congrats . We weren't trying, just being careless! I'm amazed it happened though, as it took us 6 months of proper TTC for DD. No nausea so far but my stomach is already bloated in a 'eaten a pasta supper before my period' way. Lovely!

Rubes and anyone else worrying about their child's lack of words, I would like to pass on a recommendation of a book that was given to me when I had similar worries with DD (who now aged 4 has amazing vocab and never shuts up!), it is called Baby Talk by Dr Sally Ward. I'm not saying that you have any cause for worry, just that sometimes its good to feel that you are doing something to help your child along. It is a programme of 30 min/ per day sessions of one to one with no external noise interruptions. It's easy to follow and good fun. She also suggests books and toys suitable for the child's age/stage which I have found useful.

Any news from a certain beer? Just checking...

Nolda, sorry to hear about your troubles. I must say I'm a bit confused, but feel free to come and tell us how you are feeling on here anytime, as I agree it makes you feel better. Hope things improve.

Well the HV has just left. She was very nice. She was here about an hour and did all the usual stuff plus the hearing test etc which is all fine. DD is just 80grams off her birth weight and is 2 weeks so she is happy with that. She said she has very dainty features and too agreed she doesn't look her weight! Lucky girl as it will really pay off when she is older! She's only 10th centile, but again she isn't worried as she is steadily gaining. Told her about the painful latch etc, and then dd was hungry -again- so was able to feed her, and low and behold it was the easiest feeding ever. I suspect it is because she had just fed an hour earlier and therefore I wasn't very 'full' at all and it was my non-sore side that I put her on. She had a quick look and said the latch looks fine, but I explained that I have been near tears in pain for the first 30 seconds until after let down and she wants me to go to the BF clinic tomorrow which I am glad is very nearby and dh will be home so I can go - yay! She had a look and thinks dd has a very very slight tongue tie but doubts it is enough to be causing any latching probs. She also said it may not be one at all, as it might just be that she is so tiny don't know what to make of that but of course I'm worrying just the same, and Googling like mad etc. The midwife didn't say any such thing and dh reckons he hadn't seen one either so if so it must be slight, but still, if it's causing me the pain for each feed I'd hope they would sort it for me. Guess I need to stop analyzing until I go to the clinic. just don't want to dread the first 30 seconds of each feed. I never had this with ds.
Anyway, I asked her alot about ds as he woke in one of his foulest moods ever. She says his tantrums after naps are normal for some toddlers and it's just he's bad at waking up. I then asked her about his vocab, and she had watched him for about an hour while she was here and said he's totally normal and as long as he's understanding what I'm saying (which she noticed he was) then there is no problem at all and a lot of kids just don't want to say many words until they know it will sound perfect! (he's obviously a perfectionist!) She said by the age of 2 he should say a couple of words together and have about 50 words b ut probably still wouldn't say them all the time. She says he's totally in the range of normal in fact undersgtands a little more than some (she watched him when I said 'go and get your apple from the kirthen' and then he came back with it etc. So fear not ladies with the non-talkers.... I can assure you I grilled her about him and she was adament that only saying 'no' over and over mostly was common!
Right gotta go, ds taking cutlery out and feeding it through the door mail box thingy! back soon....
Has Summer gone in???????

Oh and Spot - ok I'll have a look on those days coming up and see when I am around! That would be great!
I reckon Summer has gone in!!

Where's Sybs these days?

Rubes - I'm here ! I am just so busty with the 3 of them at home all the time that I never get time to post. I am off to Devon on Sat for a week but then hope I might pop over to meet the new addition if that would be convenient? We won't stay long and we'll bring cake. Am so looking forward to seeing you all - A sounds gorgeous!

Beans, can I pop to see you too ? Or you to me?

Well done, Jolly, excellent news!

Am in middle of making a curry and can smell burning. Back later.

Spookily, Sybs - have just texted you!

Oh shit, screamer bleating! Laters!
x

Actually Sybs I'm the busty one at the moment!
That would be FAB Sybs - my dp's will be here for a week then off for a few days and back for another week, but it's fine by me!
dh not here tonight - bah!

No word from Summer, that could be good.

I wonder how Avo is in the US with her DDs allergy thing?

Sybs are you around on the 27th I'm in lardon tarn and so is the lovely Bisou. We are hoping to arrange a meet up for the afternoon but are just waiting for Bis to get back to me with available times. Is so love to meet you?

Where is Urbane? Spot can you come to London?

Forgot to say, DS2 was really unsettled again last night. I think your right JJ I think he maybe thirsty. As the BF is so good for him I think I'll go back to giving him his 10pm feed. He is a hungry little man. Also so far he has managed to drop his feeds himself so maybe I should just trust him.

Pubs he'll be fine, DS1 didn't say much more than mamma & dadda until after 2 and now he is speaking in 2.5 languages. It's true what the HV said, DS1 really waited until he knew how to say words properly before he used them, he is the same with his Dutch. DS2 tends to try words out as soon as he hears them which is completely different to DS1. I think it's also a confidence thing, DS2 just seems more confident with his language than DS1 was. But in terms of what they understand DS2 is the same as DS1 at the same age. I have to say I was impressed with 'no don't' I thought that was good stringing of words for not wanting his food. DS2 stringing of words together extends only to 'shut 'down''. He heard DH tell me to shut the laptop down today and so kept saying it for the next hour.

at shut down! Yeah the 'no don't' thing took me by surprise! But that's encouraging Vag - and ds is def one to need his confidence first as he doesn't do anything when I'm watching until he's done it once!
I just had a small moment of proudness as I loaded ds's fork with the small piece of sausage and he used his fork to eat it with!!! I clapped and cheered then he wouldn't do it again until I wasn't watching then he did it again (after I loaded it) but that was it - then he just went back to banging his bowl with it and eating with his other hand after he tipped the rest out on the table baby steps......!

Still worried about the tongue thing - just asked dh and he reckons she doesn't have tt at all the HV did say "slight" if at all, but I'm worried that she said she "doubts they would agree to snip it as it's not really significant" but the thing is - if it is the cause of latching pain, then it will put me off and cut BF really short, and that's not fair. But then if she had it at all, wouldn't we have problems with her BF after the latch? Once she's latched and let down, the pain goes so I'm thoroughly confused..... Guess they'll tell me tomorrow at the clinic.

Right, the ds feeding himself thing was short lived. he has now thrown everything on the floor!!! Gotta go....