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Dec 08 Ladies - LIghtning Strikes... and the usual gossip!

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Beans33 · 09/08/2010 10:32

Hope this works for everyone - I'm assuming Summer won't give birth in the next few hours!! x

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Veggiemummy · 11/08/2010 20:30

Woohoo SL awesome well done you I love her name, Urbane will be very happy. Wow you've got a DD! When will DS meet her. Congrats and welcome babylightening!

Kiwi it's the 27th the Friday that I'm in London. By the way I've been meaning to ask, what should I wear to a christening, I'm to be the godmother (still find this quite hilarious). Not to be confused with Spot who is apparently a GRANDmother!

Rubena · 11/08/2010 20:40

Congrats SUMMER!
Back in a b it - just had to expell some excitement! Baby girl!!!!! Grin

KiwiPanda · 11/08/2010 20:44

Oh excellent I can do the 27th! Is there a venue/ rough plan yet?

Re the christening, assume its in church so I think dress is the way to go - is it soon? Lots of floral frocks around at this time of year but not so apt if it's later in the year. Or come to think of it is it part of your London jaunt? If you want something reasonably posh I'm a bit obsessed with Nicole Farhi dresses at the moment and there are lots on sale still, so all under £100 though of course that's not cheap I do know..! They are classics that last years though.

Rubena · 11/08/2010 20:56

Vag - dh can't really reg her as they had really few and random and far between appointments, and there is no way in the world he can make a 0930 appt. he works for 2 consultants and he is super busy ALL the time - not a chance in hell he could escape to that appt and I can't wait until a more suitable time for him arises. I just asked him - and he said he looked into it online but it will only allow you to print the form - not reg yet online in this area at least. No biggy - I may see if mil wants to have ds tomorrow although it's a bit late.

Right on to me.... Grin
BF clinic was very helpful. After they bagged the crap out of the m/w's for discharging me (thinking they were Berks midwives Grin they then realised they were their own which was pretty funny! They are concerned she is a little jaundiced etc and still 80 grams off her birth weight at 16 days. Anyway, they checked latch and it was fine (most times as they had me latch her 3 times) but they think that although she does have a slight tongue tie and it's very small it could still well be causing the latching pain from what I described. They gave me the option of a referral to have it snipped which I jusmped at and said hopefully it will fix things. They were very good in letting me go locally too as the hospital is just 2 miles away. I said I didn't want to give up bf just yet so would like to have her done just in case it is that, and they were quite nice about it although I'm not convinced that they are totally convinced, as they kept saying how slight it was if you see what I mean Hmm They have said it could take 2 weeks for the appointment but to just do what I can ie put up with it, or take parecetemol or express etc to keep going until she has it done.

Anyway, happy about that as I think thats the problem with the initial latching pain.

Just spent the arvo at the salon Grin had wine Grin but...... apparently the dc's were angels Hmm dd slept 5 freakin hours, woke for a feed, downed a bottle and is back asleep now Shock so not fair, but dh has earned himself Sunday with them both too since he's SO goodGrin Apparently ds was very "fun" too and has helped him finish off some diy Angry and had a bath and ate his dinner and went to bed no probs! To be hones as dh said - he is quite the novelty since he's not around as much as me so he admitted he has an advantage. plus dh brought me cheerfulness home Smile

Right have to eat something, and then will investigate tomorrow. Lady will it be too late to let you know first thing in the morn? I don't want to bother you with text if I don't get myself sorted soon, and I could see how the night pans out, and what mil can do in the way of taking ds Hmm

Veggiemummy · 11/08/2010 21:05

Yeah it's on the 29th. Less than £100 is cheap cheap for NF. I might have to buy when I get to London.

Rubena · 11/08/2010 21:43

Ok Lady - if you're reading - I can meet you after my appointment - not sure how long I'll be though or if I'll have to wait but it's at 0930. so i'm guessing I'd be finished by 10:00 or 10:30? then I could meet you for an early lunch or something? or perhaps just coffee? I shall text you...

waitinggirl · 11/08/2010 22:38

yay yay yay SL for the arrival of helen elizabeth - well done, you! i want to hear the whole story, please. how do you feel with a second em cs? hope you recover well.

v interested in the cheapo NF dresses, although i have to say i am ENORMOUS, so won't be buying one. i am 2 days shy of 12 weeks and SOMEONE OFFERED ME THEIR SEAT ON THE EFFING TUBE TODAY. honestly. is something wrong with me? am beginning to get a little worried. have the 12 week scan and booking in appt next week when i will be 12+5ish. i do wish i'd had some advice earlier on.

nolda - sorry to hear about your troubles. you may or may not know dh and i recently went to counselling - of course, it really depends on your individual issues, but it has helped. let me know if you want more info.

my lovely friend had her baby today by cs (she had placenta praevia). after trying so long, they had ivf and it worked first time. i spoke to her tonight, and she keeps saying he is a "magic baby". it is so lovely to hear.

rubes - glad the bf session went well. hope it gets sorted.

sybilfaulty · 11/08/2010 22:47

What lovely news - and what a gorgeous name. Welcome Helen Elizabeth and many congratulations to Summer and Mr Summer.

Will anyone ever have a boy again? All our girls' hopes (and perhaps some of the boys') are resting with you Spot, JJ, Jolly, WG....

Another beautiful baby on the thread. How fabulous.

waitinggirl · 11/08/2010 22:56

bloody hell. forgot to tell you this... it's a bit of a long story, so feel free to skip.

when i met dh it was a really odd time. my mum had just been diagnosed with terminal cancer, i had no job, my boyfriend had been having an affair and moved out - it was a really low time. and then suddenly there were men flocking around me - i went on a blind date with a delightful man; i met dh and i also met (and had my one and only one night stand with) someone called T. he kind of pursued me, even though he was going out with and engaged to another girl - it was odd. he invited me out to dinner with lots of friends, then we met at another dinner party and he engineered to sit next to me, then we ended up having dinner with a mutual friend, i drank too much, i ended up in bed with him. i am not particularly proud of jumping into bed with someone who was going out with someone else - that really isn't the sort of thing i do. and that was the last time i saw him, although we spoke on the phone once after that. he has tried to befriend me on fb 3 times. each time i have ignored him - i feel quite strongly that he took advantage of me at a really low time, that he shouldn't have ruthlessly pursued me, and that it is a bit disloyal to dh to make contact. anyway...

i then met dh, who was completely unattached, devoted and delightful. i remember telling friends that i had two distinct paths in front of me - one with dh - smooth, secure and wonderful. one with T: tempestuous, difficult and probably a bit mental. obviously i chose dh.

guess who i sat opposite on the tube this morning? guess who i ignored until he stood up to go, leant over, asked if i was called V, and then had to leave the tube. guess who has asked to be my friend (and i have now accepted grudgingly). it is very weird. i think he must live very near me.

i also feel like i know him backwards - you know when you meet someone and something clicks and you just know what is going on in their head? i'm not saying it is a nice head or anything, but i do feel weird about the whole thing.

there but for the grace of god go i. or something like that.

anyway... that's it.

Veggiemummy · 11/08/2010 23:09

He asked if you were called V? Did he not recognise you? Well I'd don't think he was very nice for taking advantage of you...but. I think you should use the experience on the tube this morning to remind yourself what a gorgeous desirable women you are and leave it at that. Don't let him freak you out.

Your latest photos on FB are great by the way DD has so much hair now.

LadyThompson · 11/08/2010 23:26

Only just seen our news! Fantastic! Welcome to the elegantly monikered Helen Elizabeth! She sounds lovely. Healing vibes to SL! Rubes, can get there for then, let's text in the morn. WG - hey, you are SO well out of it. Been out for the evening with lovely, nutty friend. She treats me like some kind of quasi shrink (hwr words) and I always come away feeling so lighthearted as my life and emotional landscape seem so simple compared to hers. But have to go as pal presenting a show right now on BBC2 about the Domesday Book Yay again for the Lightnings!

poisondwarf · 11/08/2010 23:36

Woohoo! Well done Mr & Mrs Lightning. Hope the cs was not too traumatic and that you're recovering well. LittleMissLightning is a bit of a whopper for a teeny tiny one like you is she not SL? How much did DS weigh? Anyway, another big bro/lil sis combination - how thrilling! Can't recommend it highly enough (well except when DS starts to bash DD over the head with the remote control obviously). Does it feel weird having a daughter? Was it a shock?

Huge congrats to Jolly as well (and katie - been so patchy at posting that I don't remember if I ever congratulated you or not). How exciting. Can we really be down to our last couple of only children though? Blimey we have been busy.

Nolda sorry to hear about your relationship woes. It must be so tough for you to think straight when you've got to keep it together for the DCs but it sounds as if you're doing a very good job of it. You are already making good progress and I hope your efforts bear fruit soon.

Rubes the tongue tie thing is something I know quite a lot about from painful experience, as both DS and DD had it. One thing I do know is that severity of tongue tie is not necessarily a predictor of how much pain it causes. DS's tongue tie was diagnosed as moderate and DD's as mild to moderate I think, but the pain was incredible. On the other hand I have a friend with a 3 month old with very visible tongue tie which I guess would be classed as moderate to severe but they have had no problems bfing at all. Bear in mind that once they've done the snip it's important to see an infant feeding specialist as soon as possible afterwards as you will in all likelihood still need to adjust your latch - in fact the consultant who did ours insisted on it as a condition of having the procedure done. With both of mine I got a degree of instant relief after the procedure but it took a while for feeds to be genuinely pain free (weeks in DS's case). Having said all that your experience does sound different to mine in that with me if I managed to get a decent-ish latch to start with the tongue tie meant that they were unable to maintain it and the feed got more painful as it went on.

wg stay out of that man's head FGS! But what a weird thing to do asking if you are V when he has friend requested you on several occasions and clearly knows who you are (erm not to mention that he has slept with you). Avoid avoid avoid except as Veggie says to remind yourself that you clearly one goddam irresistible babe.

Sorry have not been on for ages btw - been on holiday (camping in the Loire Valley near Blois, 2 hours SW of Paris. Was that anywhere near you Veggie? I kept thinking I should have got hold of your mobile and seen if we could have met up). And as usual been generally crap at posting.

Meet-up in London sounds great - I will try my berry best to make this one. Effie/Jam fancy terrorising the poor travellers with a 6-toddler flush on the train? We can play tut bingo.

Anyway am drunk on cheap French supermarket wine so please indulge me as I bang on about how fabulous and talented my lovely DD is. She is quite the chatterbox and is always coming up with the most precocious-sounding phrases she picks up (for example the other morning DS came into the bedroom first thing and DD piped up with "It's good to see you, DB!"). Anyway, when I get home from work I always ask DD how she is, not really expecting an answer, but when I asked tonight she replied "Not bad". Sorry - probably doesn't sound as funny written down but I think it was her nonchalant tone more than anything. And the fact that I can hear myself saying it. I roared laughing! They are so much fun at this age - love it!

poisondwarf · 12/08/2010 00:07

Oh x-posted with LadyT - you still awake? I feel like whiling away a little time talking absolute shite as I am working from home tomorrow and have no work to do. Hooray! Well not much anyway...

I think I read about your friend's programme in the Guardian today. IIRC the programme is v good & interesting and all that but your mate needs to tame the eyebrow antics. Or summat.

Sorry am wasting valuable cyberspace now. Must go to bed.

Must I?

poisondwarf · 12/08/2010 00:23

Right, 3-post mentalism here I come. LadyT, either your Domesday programme requires a concentration span superior to that of a gnat /myself and you are still watching it or you have done the decent thing and gone to bed.

Either way, I think I am going to go and catch up on a few of the 14,000 episodes of Corrie that await me on the HD recorder.

LadyThompson · 12/08/2010 00:34

Hey PD! Only just seen your message as fell asleep during friend's big moment. Ha! But have recorded. Funnily enough (am in London posting on phone) my comment in a text to DP was "fascinating content, crazy eyebrows". He is actually quite suave in Real Life. Anyhoo, lady, enjoy working from home and hope to see you on 27th. I'll be the one the size of a farm outbuilding. Your DD sounds like a poppet. "Not bad" is so old and droll for a 1 year old to say.

poisondwarf · 12/08/2010 00:49

Aha! Let us first of all pray that your friend does not google crazy eyebrows - that way madness lies.

Yes my DD does seem to specialise in old and droll. What does that say about me??? (Hint: the answer is in the question).

Size of a farm building my arse (sic). Actually I am kind of fascinated by the body image stuff that goes on in this thread but I think that that particular conversation would be best kept to when I am relatively sober. But can I just say - particularly to you and wg - c'mon, you're pregant FFS!!

But can I just say - if you're posting on this thread (or even just reading) you have a lot more going on than the size of your thighs. End of (except it's not - I could go on for hours and so could you). But you know what I mean.

LadyThompson · 12/08/2010 06:24

Uuurrrrrgh. It's too early...why oh why won't my body let me just SLEEP when I am tired...yes, PD, body image is an interesting one. My thighs don't define me, no, but they are certainly very, er, tangible. Also I am a) probably quite vain if I am honest b) was slim until I had kids and greatly enjoyed it and c) have been brought up very sharp by how difficult I have found it to shed even a small amount of weight. Oh, and d) if I bore on about it on here it helps me to avoid carping to DP about it, which I think is unattractive in itself. So, all in all, I'm a feminist's wet dream Grin My DD is obviously more than worth a thickened waistline and the Rubensesque thighs but if I don't manage to get rid of them this time, I freely admit it will bother me much more than, in the grand scheme of things, it should...Yeah, I took a calculated risk on 'crazy eyebrows'...And Steve, if you are reading, which I doubt, I did say you were suave Wink Right, must get back off to sleep. Hope you are feeling ok this morn, Summer.

EffiePerine · 12/08/2010 06:33

Ha! I thought you were talking about Prof B, who taught DH and is by all accounts a nice guy. I saw the first prog but not the later one.

Hi PD! We will have to co-ordinate the train thing. Maybe they will all amuse each other?

SummerLightning · 12/08/2010 06:52

Morning. Feeling ok but they haven't tried getting me up and about yet so we shall see.
Shall give you the full birth story later but not too bothered about ending up with anoher section. A bit more this time than last as it all seemed to be going very well for a while so I thought I would get a vbac. Fortinately I think I am missing the female gene that wants a natural birth for the sake of it but a quick recovery would have been nice.
Dd is super cute. Pd you are
right 8 1 is bigger than I was expecting. The
midwife did say she was bigger than ds who was only 6 10 but I took it with a pinch of salt. She is fast asleep now. Oh and she looks like ds when he was born!
Now I have had the baby you will have me moaning
on about my weight too ladyt! Maybe in a few days.
Pd you
sounded a bit tipsy last night!

KiwiPanda · 12/08/2010 07:56

Ha, well pity me, all, for I am about to descend into fashion week hell, where thighs that are wider than your ankles qualify as a MAJOR FASHION MISTAKE. Or something.

Beans33 · 12/08/2010 08:21

OH YAY FOR SUMMER! Well done!!

xxxx

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Beans33 · 12/08/2010 08:36

PS I love the names - gorgeous - hope you're feeling ok. x

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Beans33 · 12/08/2010 08:42

3rd strike...

I am going to have a quick whinge about DH and get it off my chest.

I really don't mind when he has to work late or start early as it's putting food on our table proverbially speaking etc. BUT he managed to finish on time on Tuesday to go out with some mates. To be fair, he finished on time yesterday and was home at 6.45 to bathe DD1. But meant she wasn't in bed til 7.45, which I was a bit annoyed with as was tired. But his look out. And I cooked supper.

BUT he's out again tonight with mates and he got up at 6.30 this morning to go for a training swim. Which means that once again, I'm on my own for the whole day. Is it unreasonable of me (AIBU!!!) to want him to either get up and go before the kids get up, OR go out with friends in the evening, NOT both, leaving me to do the whole day on my own, which I find so exhausting!!! DD1 wakes up and first thing she says is "daddy?". And then he doesn't see her in the evenings either. PLUS he thinks I'm whinging when I say I'm really tired. I think he thinks it's really easy doing what I do!!! Tit.

Don't get me wrong, he has been amazing and I am truly happier in my marriage than I have been for a long time. BUT I would like to put a stop to this - DD2 is only 7 weeks old - and reckon he can alter his life for at least the first 4 months for us!!

GRRRRR.

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PS Just as was working up into a rage, DD2 did a ginormously loud squirty fart, which has made me laugh a lot!

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EffiePerine · 12/08/2010 08:45

Hi Summer! Lovely to hear from you. I was thinking about the vbac recovery thing, snd the advantage I can see with a cs is that you have to rest. With your second you get a lot less leeway in terms of resting in bed and cuddling your newborn. I certdinly felt obliged to be up snd about sooner with a vb.

Re names, I decided at the age of 11 that only having one name was not on and my middle name would be Elizabeth / if only I had had access to a deed poll!