Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

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I was at a family lunch the other day with my in-laws and they were all slating the man. However, when I asked why my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

These aren't attributes I particularly care about in politicians (or really in people in general). I much prefer to find out if they are kind, think of others, hard working, honest etc ...

So! To those who dislike and to those who do... What are our thoughts on Jeremy Corbyn?

Muslims make up about 6.5% of the voting population though, outnumbering Jewish voters about 14 to 1.

Hi don't thonk for one second Starmer has prioritised muslim feelings about the Gaza conflict, he has staunchly defended Israel's actions for the last two years - until now. So what changed? Public pressure and pressure from within his own party, the public horror and disgust just couldn't be ignored any longer. Still no sanctions though eh?

No, that couldn’t be said because Jews are a tiny percentage of the UK population and Muslims a sizeable population.

One would have to be very stupid and extremely ill informed to make the claim in your post.

In fact, it is so spectacularly ill informed that one can’t help suspecting that there is underlying anti-Semitic thinking that Jews secretly control things behind the scenes. Because quite clearly their ‘voting power’ can’t be doing that as they are tiny in number.

Oh here we go again "anti semitic" how about I just call you Islamaphobic for insinuating Muslims secretly control everything behind the scenes? Or we could debate like adults instead of rushing to sling insults and ott accusations?

But there’s a famous and longstanding conspiracy theory that Jews secretly control the world.

Also why would British Jews base their vote on policy towards Israel? That’s also a suggestion that should be avoided.

Both these feature on the IHRA definition of antisemitism.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

Ok so perhaps Starmer's reluctance to call Israel out on their behaviour was due to paranoia about the anti semitism accusations about the Labour party?

Oh and he has previously stated his support for Zionism, maybe thats relevant I dont know.

Thinking that Israel has the right to exist and defend itself isn't controversial is it?

Although it probably is within Corbyn's circle.

Why does any policy on Gaza now have to be based on preconceived notions and "sides". Youre either "pro Gaza" (whatever that means) or a "Zionist".

Things are mad these days.

the Racism and ageism at the start of your post is offensive.

Because he was completely incompetent as leader of the Labour party which allowed Boris and friends to take power and stay in power despite Boris being a morally bankrupt self-serving serial liar, which then had the knock on effect of wreaking havoc on the country.

But I am not saying muslims secretly control things. I am pointing out the fact that they have a sizeable voter base, particularly some parts of the UK. Its no secret either that most muslims have strong feelings about the Gaza situation. Voter base & intentions and politicians reacting to that is democracy, not secretly controlling.

You on the other hand were arguing that KS's policy was dictated by Jewish interests even though Jews don't have the numbers to be able to influence politicians behaviour to gain their votes, so what else are you saying their influence, you claim they had, is based on?

I think he hated by the media but very popular with his constituents - I been told that his office does actually do a lot of letters for people.

He's hated by plenty of people that aren't the media and for reasons that aren't lies and smears and yet these always seem to be overlooked.

He wasn’t lying or omitting the truth to gain power though, he was already Labour leader during the Brexit vote.

What are the reasons?

I think if that was the case those MP's with a large number of Muslim voters in their area would never have got in anyway considering how Labour has been so wishy washy about Gaza until very recently, and for the record you don't have to be Muslim to be horrified about children dying, I'm not and it horrifies me, it's also the reason that for the first time in my life I didn't vote Labour, I couldn't stomach Keir Starmers response to it

Your "normal" is obviously not the same as mine, sorry

my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

She is saying this because she doesn't want to get into a political debate or argument with you.

I don't like Corbyn because of his politics, his antisemitism and because he nearly destroyed the Labour Party.

He’s an activist and not a strategist.

No issue with anyone being the former but it is not compatible with holding an office that requires multi-faceted strategic thinking that puts the welfare of the country above personal crusades.

The free internet for everyone is still a joke we band about in our house now.

But this post exactly nails why I am not a Corbynite. I think he is naive and idealistic, even more so than our current government (and their idealism coming crumbling down around them at the moment).

It’d be great if internet was free, and kids food was free, and water and public transport etc etc. But the wealthy we’d be relying on to pay for this won’t accept the tax levels it requires and so it’s just unachievable in any way that has yet been proposed.

That's fine. As long as if your priority is Gaza, it doesn't affect how this country is run politically. Because that would be wrong on the basis we are no longer a colonial power and have no effect on how other countries chose to act. We need to accept that I'm afraid. We are no longer running the world

Exactly. As is Farage

I was really enthused about him the first time around and, though I brushed it off as smears initially, I became unable to deny the antisemitism. Couldn't vote for him again.

That is true TBF. Although Nigel Farage is significantly more successful.

Imagine if Reform win, with Jezzas party as opposition....