Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

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I was at a family lunch the other day with my in-laws and they were all slating the man. However, when I asked why my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

These aren't attributes I particularly care about in politicians (or really in people in general). I much prefer to find out if they are kind, think of others, hard working, honest etc ...

So! To those who dislike and to those who do... What are our thoughts on Jeremy Corbyn?

Because he couldn't run a bath let alone the country and has some very unpalatable beliefs which I believe reinforce why he couldn't run the country.

He wore a donkey jacket at the Cenotaph, and his election loss wasn't merely a loss but "the longest suicide note in history" (melodramatic, much?)

Okay, that was a previous Labour leader, but it goes to show that these things don't change. If the media piles on to somebody with sufficient vehemence, the hard of thinking just follow automatically. School bullying works in much the same way. Relatively few people are determined to give a fair hearing to somebody who appears to be universally derided, even if the charges against them amount to a few trivial objections coated in vulgar abuse.

As to why the billionaire-owned press wants to make Corbyn a laughing stock, I think that's fairly obvious...

even if the charges against them amount to a few trivial objections coated in vulgar abuse

How is him being anti-west when we are part of the west a trivial objection?

Quite

He isn't anti West, he's critical of the West, as we all should be. Being uncritical of the West ends up with disasters like the Iraq invasion, war on terror, support for Israeli genocide...

Because he’s a pro Islamic communist. Can you imagine a worse leader for Britain? He doesn’t even like Britain

Oh, I blame him completely for us leaving the EU. He never gave the Labour Party’s position which is pro EU as he was personally anti EU.

Ah, magic grandpa! IMO a naive idealogue, below average intelligence, who has a very questionable relationship with the Islamic regime in Iran (and you can bet your boots that if those nutjobs were violently oppressing any group other than women, JC wouldn't be breaking bread with them - which rather suggests he's a misogynist as well).

"The hard of thinking" 🤣

With Corbyn, there didn't need to be much thinking to see what he is. He proves that very well by what he says and what he does.

He used to be my parents local MP and he was fantastic according to them. They both sing his praises as a local MP. We met him at an event and my mum didn’t expect him to remember her but he did and he asked about how spesific things were going with her work, so he did actually remember her he wasn’t just saying it. He does seem like a genuine person and he was very warm.

He will uncritically condemn anything suggested as a negative action by a ‘West’ country but reserve judgement and suggest caution on anything done by anti-west countries. See immediate acceptance of Hamas statements of atrocities by Israel but suggesting investigations needed to see if Assad actually gassed his own people, or if it was the Russians using novichok in Salisbury.

@noblegiraffe Corbyn was right to wait for evidence before accusing Russia over the novichok poisonings, even though it turned out to be Russia's doing. Wanting to be sure is not the same thing as siding with the enemy.

He appointed Seamus Milne as his Executive Director of Strategy and Communications. Milne is a supporter of communism in Russia and Putin today, communist East Germany and al Qeada for a kick off.

He did huge damage to the Labour Party, letting in a right wing iteration of the Conservative Party under Johnson and it is still recovering despite last year's general election win.

He was the second most rebellious Labour member when Labour were in power.

He was with naive people with cultist tendencies, who frequently have luxury views living privileged lives

He's hugely vain for very little good reason.

Why does he not wait for similar confirmation on things supposedly done by e.g. Israel?

Considering we're aiding and abetting Israel it really is our business, world politics affects us all, Keir Starmer wouldn't be threatening to recognise Palestine if most of the British public weren't switched on about Gaza, I don't believe for a second he personally cares

This is such a bad argument.

For it to make any sense at all Corbyn would have to be a man who had power or influence to negotiate peace.

He did not.

He was an inconsequential back bench MP to spent his whole life deliberately avoiding making the connections and building the alliances that he would need to be able to influence anyone towards peace. He was in no position to negotiate peace. That is not why he went.

You only need to look at how he ruled as party leader to see this was a man with no skills whatsoever in building alliances or bridges or negotiation. In fact, he very clearly had no interest in such enterprises at all. Which is probably why he clearly never bothered to invest time in building those conflict resolution skills.

He spent his time talking to terrorists across the world, attending ceremonies to celebrate them and their terrorism and refusing to condemn terrorism because he liked them and was sympathetic to them and their causes. That's the simple truth of it.

He's not a diplomat. So he can't do any diplomacy. He has no power or influence to broker peace. That isn't why he is there.

He visits these people because he admires and agrees with them.

This ' he is a peace broker' myth has been invented by his fans who don't want to face up to what is right in front of them.

He kept his stance on Brexit quiet but he also didn’t lie about his own opinion, when there was immense pressure to do so.
I’m not sure how you think the third paragraph is a contradiction.

A man of integrity who doesn't just do what is needed to get votes (as you claim), does not lie by omission by not telling people what his stance really is (there was also immense pressure on him to tell the truth of his position which he failed to do).

A lot of posters have pointed out that Corbyn was often unclear and evasive about his real position and this led them not to trust him.

Hardly the man of integrity you are claiming.

I don't think it's high on the priorities of most normal people. Sorry.

Its not most of the British public. PP is right that most people are not motivated enough by the ME for it to effect how they vote. It is, however, a big deciding issue for Muslim voters and KS is scared of losing their votes, as are his MPs who reliant on the Muslim vote to keep their seats. .

It wasn’t a donkey jacket and it wasn’t Jeremy Corbyn. Apart from that, you’re spot on!

The PP knows that. Read her post.

Or it could be said the reason why Starmer has refused to recognise the scale of the horror in Gaza until now, and chose to actually assist Israel in their war crimes, was his fear of losing the Jewish voters.....

Think they were lost a long time ago. Remember who the subject of this thread is.