Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

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I was at a family lunch the other day with my in-laws and they were all slating the man. However, when I asked why my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

These aren't attributes I particularly care about in politicians (or really in people in general). I much prefer to find out if they are kind, think of others, hard working, honest etc ...

So! To those who dislike and to those who do... What are our thoughts on Jeremy Corbyn?

Because he’s a fucking idiot. Surprisingly vain and petulant too, for a “man of the people”.

(Yes, have met him several times. Worked for one of his close friends.)

It was not a scam, it was fucking awful, and I had the misfortune to witness snippets.

Jeremy Corbyn for casually dismissing the detailed report into antisemitism that he presided over can get in the fucking bin.

Wouldn’t recognise antisemitism if it slapped him on the arse because he spends so much time in its company. Friends in Hamas, and so on.

You are seriously quoting the Clickbait Canary as a credible source on anything? What next, the Reform house magazine as a source?

I’ve also met him a number of times over the years in London Labour. He invariably manages to trot out his Labour party nepo baby pedigree within the first few minutes of meeting, even if told he has met you before.

Vain, thin skinned, utterly incapable of finding common ground in any discussion - discussions are for you to agree with him, not for him to take new ideas on board or compromise. Fully affable when you just listen admiringly but don’t ever question.
Intellectually he couldn’t hold a candle to a younger Abbott or to McDonnell, both of whom were actual WC Labour but who lacked the Labour “pedigree” - he was little more than a mouthpiece for Milne et al and the Hampstead left and near impossible to sell on the doorstep after his piss poor performance in the Brexit campaign, plus an election campaign where he largely hid from the media (sending out McDonnell and the by then none too well Abbott to face the morning rounds for him). Voters do not trust leaders who hide.

This clip from ITV News sums up exactly what it was like for many canvassers:

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We need a new socialist party grassroots up, all have a say. What we have now is damaging three parties with billionair donors. Labour is complicit in genocide in Gaza sending spy planes to Israel hundreds of times and just before the Palistinian journalistswere targetited and killed..

I think Jeremy is a decent caring man of principle.

Sigh. "it's a smear, it's a smear, it's a smear..." but talking over all the Jews who disagree and elevating the few who agree with you. Which is exactly why Jews became disaffected with Labour. We weren't listened to, were told we were making it up, or it was just criticism of Israel, or here, here's an antizionsit Jew who agrees with us.

He comes across as bitchy and a big smug, bit mean.

he didn’t do enough to stop Brexit

I think Jeremy is a decent caring man of principle

1. Based on what? I’ve described my personal experience of the man, what is your experience of him?
2. Principles are utterly irrelevant if you lack the competence to do anything about them. I know many people with fine principles who I wouldn’t trust to reliably boil a kettle.

Change is difficult, it requires hard work, brains and a willingness to talk to those you disagree with (as opposed to people others disagree with on Russia Today).

If mummy and daddy hadn’t pulled him into the family firm after his dismal A level results (despite the private education) he would have gone to manufacturing/retail/local bank like most boys of that age at the time with education but not the ability to go further academically. None of us would have heard of him.

Yes! I don’t even understand what PMQs is for nowadays. Nothing gets answered. No policies are really announced. It’s pure theatre. A waste of time. It belongs in the past. Who cares if our leader (or someone who could be a potential leader) has no theatrics about them? I’d rather they spent that time in the office getting on with the job than guffawing and catcalling in a frankly juvenile fashion.

@Trezo If you think the manifesto was fully costed you have no understanding of economics or how to cost a policy. It was fantasy.

Lack of leadership on Brexit.

You can end wars by refusing to fight but then we'd all be speaking German now and soon we'd all be speaking Russian, or bombed out of existence.

There's a difference between knowing how much something costs and being able to pay for it.

He clearly wanted Brexit, which is a disaster for the UK. And his stance helped the Leave vote. If he'd spoken out against Brexit, it would have made a real difference. I remember when, during the Brexit referendum period when the Labour party was supposedly supporting the stay in the EU position, he refused to get onto a stage with David Cameron. Because DC wasn't righteous enough (and/or because he actually supported Brexit). I also have a strong memory of him being one of the very first (can he have been the first?) politicians to announce that transwomen are women. And the way he did it was such a clear lie, rather than stating what he genuinely believed. He said something like - transwomen have led difficult lives and we should be sympathetic towards them and try to make their lives easier. And was then asked whether transwomen were women, and said they were. He didn't look at all as if he meant it. And do you remember how we were constantly told what a nice, unassuming, unambitious and honest man he was? But he held onto the Labour party leadership with a dead man's grip. At a time when a good opposition to the Conservative government was so desperately needed. I think he's responsible for a great deal. Another man who put his own personal ego before the interests of the country.

He clearly wanted Brexit, which is a disaster for the UK. And his stance helped the Leave vote
He has long been anti EU ( and he had a right to be) it was his cowardly failure to engage because he knew his grip on power depended on Momentum who were pro EU. Or if he had explained why, despite being a long time Brexiteer he didn't think it was the right time or whatever ifc he x was actually for remain, fine. But for a ' man of principle' as his accolytes are so fond of calling him, he wasn't very principled. Just cowardly. Ran away from the most important political event in 50 years. I suspect he actually couldn't care less because it wasn't his favourite causes of Palestine or Cuba or how terrible America is. I can fully believe he's just not that bright and actually having v to firm arguments about the EU was too difficult and boring for him so he went on holiday.

Last two sentences are probably spot on..🤣