Money is pouring in for Kamala Harris as U.S. presidential candidate

[MsAmerica]

And I confess myself very surprised.

Kamala Harris' fundraising reaches a record-breaking $100 million since Biden's exit
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/fundraising-for-kamala-harris-tops-100-million-shattering-records/74509043007/

Historic flood of cash pours into Harris campaign and allied groups
www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/historic-flood-of-cash-pours-into-harris-campaign-and-allied-groups/ar-BB1qvtCj?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I have been surprised by both Biden and Kamala in the last four years, I am not sure that Kamala would do any differently from Biden in reality, if she were elected.

As a lighthearted aside, Kamala has said hundreds of times and in relation to every topic "passage of time" and has laughed loudly more than given impressive answers in the last 4 years. I have seen her debate some issues well before her term as vp, and so I am guessing how she has been for 4 years reflects that she is stoically following a party line. Which makes it difficult to predict how she would actually lead.

I imagine those here who are supporting her and slating Trump are doing so because of special interests, ie Trump's position in relation to one or two specific issues. Not about wider issues or knowledge of a wide range of policies. If so what are the specific issues which you think Trump has got wrong?

I really don't think orange skin colour or anything to do with appearance should be relevant.

Errrm because he is a sexually abusive, sexually incontinent, misogynistic criminal who doesn't understand how to protect national secrets?

Not sure that's the kind of person who should be "the leader of the western world"

I saw some videos of Kamala Harris of her time since she became a VP. Are people having a laugh? I guess they want to go down with her so long is not with Trump. I must admit I like her more than the witches of the squad. However, may be only to go to party. 🥳 Yes, she is a lot of fun it seems. Now for the very important position of US president? let’s say I will wait with interest. 🍿

Glad to see the U.S. following the example set by the U.K. and France.

Glad to see Americans finally following the example set by the UK and France.

If you read Project 2025 you’ll find a pretty full list of reasons I abhor the man and think he’s unfit to be president of the free World.

My main issue as an international observer is that he’s a Putin sympathising arsehole who would sell Ukraine and the rest of us down the river.

He’s also a rapist, misogynistic asshat who wants to destroy democracy.

Project 25 reads like the Reform 'manifesto'.

@CassieMaddox ‘I think the UK and France have both recently shown that despite how things appear on the Internet, most people don't want a divisive populist government. Biden was not electable but I bet a lot of people will hold their nose and vote Harris so as not to run the risk of Trump/Vance.’

The French now have a ‘Government’ in which the electoral pact to defeat the National Rally between the Islamist and extreme left parties is falling apart before they have even taken their seats. There is talk that the Fifth Republic may be facing a crisis, as it cannot deliver a working government system.

The current Labour Government have the smallest proportion of actual votes of any elected British Government since universal suffrage. Reform achieved more votes than the Lib Dems, and have a fraction of the seats….people on here thought that the defeat of the majority vote was terrible when it was Clinton v Trump, though I expect they have changed their minds now.

I think Harris will ‘win’ , and the same people (who?) have been ‘running the country’ during the Biden years will run it along the same lines with her as their front person. I believe the Union will not survive the pressure, possibly more power will devolve to individual states, maybe the country will split.

The current Labour Government have the smallest proportion of actual votes of any elected British Government since universal suffrage. Reform achieved more votes than the Lib Dems, and have a fraction of the seats

That’s at least in part due to tactical voting. Such was the impetus to get rid of the Tories that many people voted for the candidate most likely to beat them in their constituency. The Reform nutters were thinly spread across the entire country, while the LibDem vote was concentrated in areas that were formerly strongly Tory.

If Harris appeals to the female, youth and ethnic vote, she has a very strong chance of winning the public vote. The college vote will be more problematic.

I've seen some positive speeches/arguments from Harris in the last few days, before it was all just her cackling like a hyena and making no sense. If she can hold herself together in a debate, I don't think Trump will stand a chance.

However, I think there is still an element of Americans not wanting to vote for a female president and thats going to be a tough hurdle to jump. As a woman I wish her all the best but I have to say that internationally I just want a person in the white house who will end this war mongering we saw strongly from Biden and be a vessel for peace.

I imagine those here who are supporting her and slating Trump are doing so because of special interests, ie Trump's position in relation to one or two specific issues. Not about wider issues or knowledge of a wide range of policies. If so what are the specific issues which you think Trump has got wrong?

'Imagine' all you want but it's not just 'special interests' nor his orangeness.

Specific 'issues' are never the absolute crux, it's also to do with moral leadership and values so here's some key issues for starters from someone who 'slates' Trump:

Issue one: values
I abhor his values - stiffing people he owes money to including small businesses, directing government money into his own businesses, his crudeness about women (grab 'em by the pussy, saying he'd date his own daughter, his extramarital affairs and predatory behaviour), his racism (eg about Mexicans), his mocking of disabled people, his arrogance. As the leader of the nation, he should be a good role model. He's not, I'd hate my children to turn out like him.

Issue two - labour issues
When in power Trump promoted the interests of the already wealthy such as CEOs and shareholders over those of working people. He did very little to protect ordinary workers’ pay, safety and rights, for example during the pandemic.

Issue three:foreign policy
He pardoned war criminals, oversaw disastrous withdrawals of troops, cosied up to Putin, made crazed tweets about North Korea, endorsed Filipino extrajudicial killings

Issue four: environment
He oversaw the elimination of key environmental protections, pulled back from the Paris agreement

Issue five: healthcare
He sabotaged the Affordable Care Act, threatening the health and financial stability of millions of Americans

issue six: migration policies/racism
He introduced a botched travel ban on Muslim-majority nations

We don’t know any of her policies yet. Which if they are anything like those from her first presidential run, she will be in trouble.

The dems need to temper their enthusiasm and get real. They need policies on the economy and immigration that will resonate with swing voters. As much as they like to think this election is a referendum on Trump and abortion, it isn’t. As much as they think it’s about voting for a black woman for president, it isn’t.

They need to focus on prep for the debate. She talks in banalities when she doesn’t have a teleprompter. Theres a lot of work to do, but all I see is hubris.

In relation to specific things, it sounds as though in fact your primary concerns are to do with war and personal qualities (ie abortion?)? Please could you link to sources for the other substantive points you made, re environment, health care, promoting the interests of certain groups etc, as it would be interesting to look into them/fact check. Thanks!

Which of Kamala's policies and qualities which you support, and you give links to sources? Thanks

Or... you could do your own googling.

Opposition to abortion is not a 'personal quality' when you legislate on it.

I just want a person in the white house who will end this war mongering we saw strongly from Biden and be a vessel for peace.

If you believe that Trump is 'a vessel for peace' you've been well and truly brainwashed by the MAGA movement. How can you believe such nonsense? Did you completely forget that Trump almost brought America to civil war when he was in power and he encouraged people to riot? He tried to stop democratic process. That is a fascist.

Can't reason with people in a cult.

Or...you could let the other poster speak for themselves.

Unless you are all in a group, and saying identical things, and speaking as one?

In relation to abortion, I wasn't sure which of their issues it would fall under but inferred from what they wrote that they felt that personal qualities would direct legislative action?

I think that Trump has said that he wants to use US influence to work towards ending international conflicts by negotiation and to get rid of war mongering factions? I am not writing this in support or against by the way, just clarifying. It is a different point from the one you made about riots and democracy.

I disagree with getting people to riot, but I think technically the issue was that he thought that the democratic process had been tampered with, and people should fight against that. I don't think you mean fascist, by the way. Fascism is about thinking one race or people group is superior to another and justifying treatment of specific groups as a result, according to the political theory I am aware of, anyway. I think you mean you think he was being a dictator. But I think that his side were saying that democratic process had been tampered with, not being anti democracy, as I said. IYSWIM

It’s an open forum so I can express my opinion on any post. Ain’t free speech grand?

You have a great day now. Good luck with google!

'He thought that the democratic process had been tampered with'

How strange that it wasn't 'tampered with' in 2016?

Oh and @thebaloneywar fascism is not only concerned with race. But the fact that you think it is says quite a lot about your opinions and mindset.

Yes, odd isn’t it how the democratic process is hunky dory when it works in his favour. God help us if he loses in November.

Quite! Have you heard his recent interview where he says ‘If I don’t win this election, there will never be another election in the US again’.

His level of self-importance and narcissism is off the scale. He’s as thick as mince too. A very unbecoming combination.

I think Kamala has enthused young people who disliked both Biden and Trump. A huge number of people have registered to vote since Sunday.

I think she will bring out the Democratic base that may not have bothered to turn up for Biden and this will help Democrats down the ticket who are running for the House, the Senate and state legislatures:

Of course it is early days still.

There are nearly 3 million people employed in the US military and then you have all the money they make building and exporting weapons. There are whole towns and service industries built around US military bases. I'm surprised people in the US aren't outraged at the prospect of this industry being reduced.