Money is pouring in for Kamala Harris as U.S. presidential candidate

[MsAmerica]

And I confess myself very surprised.

Kamala Harris' fundraising reaches a record-breaking $100 million since Biden's exit
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/fundraising-for-kamala-harris-tops-100-million-shattering-records/74509043007/

Historic flood of cash pours into Harris campaign and allied groups
www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/historic-flood-of-cash-pours-into-harris-campaign-and-allied-groups/ar-BB1qvtCj?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Are you shitting me? (Americanism) she was a ver successful prosecutor. She famously can give a world class debate and closing argument.

I agree. I'm feeling hopeful! Kamala Harris has a great deal of potential and people say that she will be a very different president to VP.

I actually quite like her, fingers crossed!

DH and I haven’t had time to sit down and discuss how much to donate, but we will be donating.

fighting for our democracy isn’t cheap, but at least now I feel like we have a chance

I like her very much. She’s energetic and humorous, I’d vote for her.

Maybe read what I said. I listed six key concerns, they're not primarily 'personal'. They're all well-known issues so maybe google them if you feel compelled to fact check?
Unfortunately MN doesn't offer a facility for including footnotes and I don't feel you're acting in good faith given how you've characterised my contribution.

That's wonderful! Let's hope she gets her campaign right and her numbers go even higher.

You may care to look at her world class ‘Passage of Time’ speech

Which podcasts are people listening to? Pod save America seems to think Kamala won't debate as the rallies are working so well for her.

The Rest is Politics US is good - Scaramucci and Kay.

Americast has some good analysis.

I'm definitely not a podcast junkie - any others?

David Pakman is good - he does very regular updates.

We won't see detailed policies until she is formally nominated.

Millions of Americans feel that Trump is an extremely dangerous threat to democracy. Why shouldn't democrats feel enthusiastic and hopeful? They've had a month or more of chaos and despair - the groundswell of support for Kamala and the sense of unity is inspiring.

As much as they think it’s about voting for a black woman for president, it isn’t.
She's not black. She's Indian-Jamaican. And why not be enthused that there's support for a popular woman candidate of colour running against a candidate who's shown himself to be sexist and racist (amongst other things)?

She talks in banalities
She's a deeply experienced prosecutor - she knows how to make a compelling speech. And as the choice is basically binary - her or Trump - she is by far a better orator than him.

its sad, but my standard for a presidential candidate in 2024 is literally, do I believe they are reasonably intelligent, rational, and of sound mind.

there were concerns that Biden was starting to falter mentally.

trump fails that test across the board.

i don’t have to like everything about a candidate . I don’t have to agree with every or even any policies. I just have to believe that candidate will get into office and be ready to listen to the bevy of intelligent people ready to advise on important issues. I have to believe that candidate is ready to negotiate in good faith with opposing parties.

I believe VP Harris is intelligent enough to come to the table and have the necessary discussions to lead. That is what matters

1/Published policies maybe not but briefing about policies start much earlier.

2/Because Pride comes before a fall. Celebrate when it’s over, not when it’s just begun.

3/ Harris is referred to as a black woman in nearly every media outlet. Her ethnic background is Indian/Jamaican

4/She has frequently in the last 4 years as VP used banalities when she is either nervous or filling for time. This is why she needs to prepare hard for the debate.

Fascism is right-wing, authoritatian nationalism, usually with a racial element. It fits Trump perfectly.

He didn't really believe the democratic process had been tampered with. He lied about it repeatedly, to defame the opposition and in the hope that his more crazed supporters would do exactly what they did. He encouraged them on Twitter while it was happening.

If you believe Trump is really about negotiation and the love of peace, you have read him entirely wrong.
His only reason for ever wanting peace would be fear of harm to himself.
He says a lot of things. He contradicts himself constantly. You cannot trust a word of any of it. There is no real person there, with real beliefs, other than in his own superiority. He's a malignant narcissist and what you see is only the false self severe narcissists present to the world. Underneath it there is no authentic personal identity. That means that whoever is advising him on policy is really in charge for the most part. Insiders have said he believes whatever the last thing he heard from one of his flunkies was.

😁

Thanks @Emmanuelll I'll check that one out too!

Deep State Radio do a lot of good podcasts, they’re fairly Dem friendly but have excellent guests and the analysis is generally sound.

This is not an election of swing voters. Its going to be all about turning out the base and depressing Trump’s voters. Vice versa for the Republican side.

The reason why the Democrats are pretty pleased right now is that Trump is basically at his ceiling right now. Everyone either loves him or hates him. Very few voters are waiting to learn more about him. They may or may not actually understand him and his policies (that is true for both supporters and opponents) because of the way media segmentation and balkinization structures information for voters. But whatever: everyone believes they know Trump and either buy what he is selling or reject it.

That is not true for HARRIS. Americans don’t have much memory for a previous campaign. Harris is largely unknown right now. She is at her floor but there is plenty of room to increase her vote share—her ceiling is open.

She borrows Biden’s popularity (increased popularity for clearly putting country over self) and she will get a convention boost (each party does) but she has already stepped on Trump’s assassination boost and his convention bounce.

Trump’s VP pick has been a disaster (his opinion not mine) and Harris is spoiled for choice of anodyne white guys who can serve as genial attack dogs (the traditional function of the VP pick).

The significance of all the back and forth punditing/op eds/gracious advice from each party to the other right now is best understood as a form of trash talking—each party will attempt to use the media and social media/celebrity/influencers to get the other party to make a mistake, and to depress the other party’s voters. A committed MAGA voter who fears mail in voting and thinks that his vote can’t beat blue enthusiasm is a lost vote for trump.

Don’t look for Harris or the dems to conciliate or move to the center. This is a red meat to the base campaign.

I like our chances.

The dems liked their chances against Trump in 2016 and their hubris cost them. Don’t make the same mistake twice

What an odd thing to say. HRC won millions more votes than Trump. It is an oddity of our electoral system that he was able to win with fewer than a million votes across four states. He didn’t out fight her, his strategists didn’t outplay her.

Second time out against Biden he lost again decisively.

Since we are all planning to work our hearts out again I don’t think we will need faux concern from unconcerned parties to keep our attention on the battle. But since it fits with the “depress enthusiasm “ model of political warfare I rather expected it. Even, pointlessly, at mumsnet.

Brilliant analysis, thank you

It’s a very real concern. Elections aren’t won on positive affirmations and fridge magnate quotes but that seems to be the feel right now from the dems.

Just like you all did with Biden, you chose not to see the truth. The truth is Harris has issues to over come if she wants to win. Don’t sweep them under the carpet. Because if she doesn’t, it isn’t Trump that people should be concerned about. It’s Vance and his religious ideology.

Hubris? I think people expected HC to win because Trump was, and is a joke politician . Trump himself was shocked that he won in 2016. But then he started to believe his own hype.

His 2016 victory was a symptom of populist politics which has been doing the rounds the world over. Nothing more.

So if he’s a joke politician, who’s the joke on if he wins?

@Willmafrockfit
crazy system

I know. Not very democratic really, is it?

Are there any countries where political candidates are obliged to spend exactly the same as each other on their campaigns?