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Trump vs Clinton. Biggest debate in world history 2am tomorrow. Will you be there?

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claig · 26/09/2016 09:13

The entire world's movers and shakers, swindlers and fakers, public money piss-takers will be watching in trepidation at what Trump will do to them. The entire world's great and the good, high and the mighty, shifty and flighty will be supporting Hillary. Will you be with the people supporting Trump?

Have you got the ice cream, the chocolate, the biscuits and the matchsticks to keep the eyelids open ready?

As a warm-up, here is Sky News's 30 minute documentary shown last night

"Trump. Could it really happen?"

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claig · 27/09/2016 05:29

'You can keep clinging to that but every other pundit and the polls are calling it a win for Hillary.'

That's no surprise. They are biased. Their job is to try to push Clinton's poll ratings up by trying to influence the public. Let's see if it works. It's just like Brexit. The Establishment and their teams told us that they were ahead of us by 10 points on the eve of teh vote and then we beat them. That is how they operate, but they won't fool the people.

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AppleMagic · 27/09/2016 05:33

Of course, everyone else is biased towards Clinton (including that well known Democrat mouthpiece Fox News Hmm !) except the one guy who agrees with you. Do you think that sounds rational?

claig · 27/09/2016 05:37

'Do you think that sounds rational?'

That is the truth. That is how the system works. It's all about money and Trump is a challenge to them just as the people were over Brexit when we were up against Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and their proponents.

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claig · 27/09/2016 05:41

The Drudge Report, number one newsource in the United States, poll has Trump winning the debate by 81% to 18% for Hillary on a smaple of 92,000.

The reality is Hillary recoverd and did a lot better than many people expected, but the real reality is that the economy is the major issue and Trump won on that when he was the old Trump we love, the unpolitically correct one that Belfast said "was out of control". After that she won the rest of the debate because he no longer attacked. But only the economy counts.

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claig · 27/09/2016 05:44

Time Magazine poll has Trump winning the debate by 60% to 40%.

Meanwhie Megyn Kelly, Fox News and every other media source in the world will say that Hillary won. But unfortunately for them, it is only the people who count just like in Brexit when we beat the lot of them.

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AppleMagic · 27/09/2016 05:45

How is Donald Trump a challenge to big business? He's just promised to slash their taxes and regulation.

claig · 27/09/2016 05:46

CNBC poll has Trump winning the debate by 58% to 42%.

They will have to hire the best spinners they can find to spin their way out of this even though Hillary did much better than expected. But she didn't do well enough and if Trump finally sacks the politically correct brigade, then he will still win the election.

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claig · 27/09/2016 05:49

'How is Donald Trump a challenge to big business? He's just promised to slash their taxes and regulation.'

Have you followed the whole election and Trump's rocket to the nomination etc. They are the globalists who deliberately got the puppet politicians to push up taxes so that they could move to cheaper labour countries like China and Mexico to increase their profits and pay less for labour. Trump is ending it all, putting America First. That is why Wall Street and all the media back Hillary while the people and the online polls back Trump.

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claig · 27/09/2016 05:52

Hannity has just said that every single online poll has Trump winning the debate apart from the Clinton News Network's poll.

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WinchesterWoman · 27/09/2016 05:57

I wish the media would realise that people can see through it now. Why do they keep pretending.

claig · 27/09/2016 05:58

Monica Crowley on Fox is brilliant, not politically correct. Trump should hire her as the top adviser. She says Trump is winning all the online polls because he is the "change agent" and 70% of Americans think that the country is on the wrong track.

Trump held on in the debate and won on the issue of the economy and that is enough to see him over the line which is why the online polls have him ahead because the public doesn't care about what Megyn Kelly of Fox says about birtherism or tax returns.

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claig · 27/09/2016 06:00

'Why do they keep pretending.'

Fear. They all fear Trump like nothing else because he is the "change agent" who is coming for the lot of them and who will put the American people first. Short of a huge October surprise, there is nothing they can do to stop him. They are on the wrong side of history just like Cameron and the team were over Brexit.

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claig · 27/09/2016 06:09

The Hill has Trump 55%, Hillary 39%

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WinchesterWoman · 27/09/2016 06:12

The moderators have just restored trump's 'victim of the establishment' status, and clinton's establishment status. It works to trump's advantage that there was no discussion of clintons great scandals. People will think 'hey it's fixed' and move on.

claig · 27/09/2016 06:13

As Newt Gingrich said on an abstract debate judging standard Trump didn't do brilliantly because he should have scored mny more points against her and he fluffed that, possibly due to his politically correct advisers. But he did enough to prove he can be President and that was what she had to prevent and failed to do. She did much better than anyone expected and held on, but that is nowhere near enough in a time of populist insurgency that is sweeping the world and America.

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claig · 27/09/2016 06:14

'People will think 'hey it's fixed' and move on.'

Absolutely. It will be interesting to see what the Establishment tries for the next debate. How long can they protect Hillary for? But even that doesn't matter because everyone knows the truth because no one believes the mainstream media any more.

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WinchesterWoman · 27/09/2016 06:28

also she didn't keel over
That's a victory in itself

claig · 27/09/2016 06:33

Hannity just said that the Clinton News Network poll putting Hillary ahead was based on something like 500 people, while all the other online polls that have Trump winning by a country mile are based on samples of hundreds of thousands to millions.

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claig · 27/09/2016 06:35

'also she didn't keel over'

Yes, major victory. She didn't cough or anything. She held on. She did much better than many people expected but she didn't knock Trump out and that is not good enough.

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WinchesterWoman · 27/09/2016 06:38

But those are all crazy trump obsessives who go on all those websites and click a million times

claig · 27/09/2016 06:40

'But those are all crazy trump obsessives who go on all those websites and click a million times'

Absolutely, the people, the Deplorables, the tens of thousands who turn up for rallies when she struggles to get crowds. They are the voters as much as the Establishment and the media dislike the Deplorables, just as they disliked the British people who beat them all over Brexit, just as they dislike the Corbynistas who beat the 172.

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claig · 27/09/2016 06:43

Trump has a movement, Corbyn has a movement. The Establishment has cronies. There is no contest, their rigged opinion polls can't control the vote.

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claig · 27/09/2016 06:50

They will never beat the Deplorables. We are the people. They are the cronies.

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VoyageOfDad · 27/09/2016 07:07

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claig · 27/09/2016 07:09

Voyage, that is the Clinton News Network, the only online poll to buck the trend of all the other online polls with much larger sample sizes

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