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Father not being given access to children - where do I stand?

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al3555 · 26/01/2023 15:36

Hi,

Bit of background, I (father) had a period of ill mental health a few years ago, married with 3 young children I struggled to balance work and family pressures and had 3 spells in hospital due to this and other family issues.
Fast forward 5 years I'm now stable, in a good job and finalising divorce from the kids mother. She has blocked me seeing the children for the past 3 years and I miss them terribly. I realise the only way I'll get access is through the C100 court process but am worried that my psychological background will stop me from seeing them even though I have been free of any treatment for 3 years and am coping well with life in general.
Have spoken to a couple of other fathers in similar situations and one of the things which comes up is that I'll need a full psychological assessment at a cost of £5000 or more (I don't qualify for legal aid) which I can barely afford. I'm going to be representing myself, I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts/advice for me, all I want to do is see my children.

Thanks

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JenniferSlopez · 29/01/2023 21:04

I mean, Shamima Begum was getting less of a hard time than this guy to put it in perspective.

C8H10N4O2 · 29/01/2023 22:44

JenniferSlopez · 29/01/2023 21:04

I mean, Shamima Begum was getting less of a hard time than this guy to put it in perspective.

Don't be so bloody ridiculous.

RedHelenB · 29/01/2023 22:47

al3555 · 26/01/2023 16:22

I've been told that if the 13 and 16 year olds say no to contact with me then there's not much I can do. The 9 year old is too young to have their view taken outright.

If their siblings aren't seeing you, even if contact is ordered I can't see them being willing to go with you.
Your children will always be your children though, and in time may well be willing to have contact. You need to play the long game, but contact will have to be on their terms now.

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al3555 · 30/01/2023 15:03

RedHelenB · 29/01/2023 22:47

If their siblings aren't seeing you, even if contact is ordered I can't see them being willing to go with you.
Your children will always be your children though, and in time may well be willing to have contact. You need to play the long game, but contact will have to be on their terms now.

this I agree with although I was hoping just the odd phone call/email wouldn't do any harm. I just want to rebuild a relationship with them.

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AlwaysGinPlease · 30/01/2023 18:43

I want

That's all you care about. What you want.

Your silence on the NMO is deafening. Your family are terrified of you and like I said earlier but you of course ignored, for very good reason. Leave them alone.

CrescentMoons · 30/01/2023 19:22

al3555 · 30/01/2023 15:03

this I agree with although I was hoping just the odd phone call/email wouldn't do any harm. I just want to rebuild a relationship with them.

This is precisely my concern. You don’t see that sporadic contact could do untold harm. You don’t seem to realise the impact that contact with you might have on the family, your ex wife etc it’s all about you and your rights and not the rights of the children and your ex wife.

when you were sectioned three times and in a mental hospital she was much much more than a single parent, she would have been counsellor, advocate, dealing with not only the day to day impact of raising children, you must take responsibility for that.

how much stress was she under? What about her mental health? Her emotional health? During divorce never mind the three children and dealing with all of that.

like has been suggested at some point start with her a heart felt genuine letter taking responsibility and ask her for a meeting with a counsellor to listen to her concerns - listen first, acknowledge, and don’t defend what happened or dismiss it.

if she won’t then apply to court

but you might not get very far

2 years NMO - I knew a husband, who took an axe to the house, literally, ripping radiators off the wall, and threw everything out of windows. This was after verbally assaulting the child and verbally abusing the mother whilst drunk. She called police and left the house with the children. They turned up and warned him. He trashed the house when they left- he got a year NMO. It’s all relative but 2 years suggests a high level - they are not given out lightly.

SammyScrounge · 31/01/2023 01:42

al3555 · 26/01/2023 16:06

For 2 years I had a non molestation order in place, I have been trying to resolve things amicably but she won't even communicate other than a few basic messages through a solicitor.

A.non molestation order against you perhaps casts.a new light on your situation.

SammyScrounge · 31/01/2023 01:49

Posted accidentally. Sorry! The non molestation order - does your ex have reason to fear for herself or the boys?.Maybe when you were ill, was your behaviour difficult for her to handle?

EL0ISE · 31/01/2023 07:57

SammyScrounge · 31/01/2023 01:49

Posted accidentally. Sorry! The non molestation order - does your ex have reason to fear for herself or the boys?.Maybe when you were ill, was your behaviour difficult for her to handle?

I don’t understand the thinking behind your questions. What mother is going to say

“ Oh yes my ex was such a risk to myself that he got an NMO for two years but Im sure he is totally safe with my kids “

The risk lies in the perpetrator, not the victim.

And it’s not the ex ‘s job to “ manage his behaviour “. It’s the OPs job to manage himself, he is an adult .

Every week in the UK, a child dies at the hands of their father or step father.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 31/01/2023 16:22

Your posts are very contradictory...

I just want to rebuild a relationship with them.
I would like to be a small part of their lives
I'm not looking to get back into their lives,

So, for their sakes you first need to be honest - with yourself - about what you want. Then you really need to think about how your wants compare with their needs and what is best for them.

You're being very prickly with people pointing out the the NMO absolutely would not have stopped you applying for the remote contact you supposedly want now. That's a question that absolutely will be asked, by a court and very likely by your children. So, why didn't you bother then? For whos benefit did you decide to go no contact with them for years?

What benefit will being in remote contact with you bring to them?
Will you genuinely be happy with the odd email or do you expect them to commit to a regularity?

JustAndy · 29/12/2024 09:16

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