May babies no. 5 - crikey!

[libb]

Wouldn't we all be a nightmare on a rare ladies only night out?!

Poor cat, medised for your household by the sounds of things (tho' it sounds rather scarily powerful)

and poor libb, we'll all be wanting to know how he got on...

Prufrock that's awfully sweet, your description of your dd with ds. Makes me look forward to two! But Judd how is your DD coping? Was her comment just a one-off, or is she not really enjoying big sisterhood? I meant to ask before, but these thread topics just go racing by...

Egypt I am freezing carrots AS WE SPEAK. Terrifying vegetable synchronicity in 'May' at the moment. (Do you think it's got something to do with the moon?)

Think broadly speaking if you can cook something then you can freeze it...Freezing and thawing destroys the structure of fruit & veg cells, but only in the same way that cooking does... so raw stuff oughtn't to be frozen.

except raspberries.

i am hot footing it to tesco pharmecy first thing tomorrow spots!

I am a muppet. I just washed a load of clothes - with a dishwasher tablet I had to start a thread about it- surely i am the first person EVER to do this!

xx

lol cat! you've lost it gal. dh keeps telling me that pregnancy makes you lose 10% of your brain cells. well he said it, so now i have an excuse

does it mean i shouldn't have frozen the papaya? it wasnt cooked......gulp. (never knew that a papaya and paw paw were the same thing btw)!

dd slept for 3 hours this afternoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lordy. she was clearly knocked out by the jabs, or the calpol......but that's another thread

did it clean then ok though?

good god we are all busy little bees. Asda a dn Tesco must have seen a big increase in their fruit and veg department this week.
Weve bought today, mango, corguettes, peaches and pears. Plan to steam them and puree them all once I get those ice cube trays.
Prufrock, im glad you mentioned the sterilising. I think I may have gone a bit overboard and sterilsed everything I used or even touched the food with.
Pff to rescue dd now who isnt very happy about being left in her bouncy chair with mr octopus and is currently calling me.

i think ds is loosing it!!! he is lying on his mat and screaming really loud! sort of like howling or roaring? for sure it is loud and when you "scream" back he just laughs! - does your lo's do that too???? - for fun that is!
and every chance he gets - onto his tummy! he can play that game for hours pffff
oh and the toys i bought months ago: finally he uses them! really cute
lot's of blending going on on this thread - made apple and pear today; since apple was a bit sour i added some mashed banana and babyrice - he just loved it!!! and dessert he got bananajoghurt and rest of bananamash! went down in a mo (waiting desperatly for these icecube trays!!)
libb: yes! tell us how lo did today??? how did you cope?
egypt: nice that dd had such a long nap. she obviously needed it. and you got some time to do things too
hahahaha ds is so funny! lying on his mat next to me. suddenly a loud long howl! i look up, he on his front, body raised up high, looking at me and a bright grin on his face!!

your ds sounds a little cutey. can you post a picture of him?
dd does shout and howl at times. learnt to do the high pitched scream thing too. like a high pitched sigh.

hey, we didnt have the waking after 1 hour tonight. jabs and calpol doing their job i spose. [touches wood] going to get some rest now.

just watched little angels. 2 young kids and a baby. baby being pulled around by misbehaving 3 year old. breaks my heart. dh was overcome with shock. hope that makes him realise that another baby is not a good idea just yet!

ordered ice cube trays too

Hiya, Just a quick message before bedtime! Would like to bond on the weaning side - I've done some more sweet potato tonight and have courgettes ready for tomorrow (haven't got enough ice cube trays to do more than one thing at a time).
Spots - DD is fine on the ittle brother side. She will jangle toys for him and rock him in his chair and loves guessing what colour his poo will be when we hear him cracking one out! However, she isn't overly affectionate and rarely touches him spontaneously - the upside is that she has never smacked him either. I'm happy with it, she just seems to accept that he will be there and isn't overly bothered either way!
Prufrock - we had to buy DS 9-12 month sleepsuits yesterday, so it is nice to hear of other big babies! He's already been in the swings at the park a few times - kept upright by sheer bulk!
Re: colds. Another fab thing are the "Breathe Easy" plug in vaporisers from Boots. Bit pricey - I think the plug in is £7 and the tablets are £3 a pack but they do work really well. And if you have a Boots card, every sniffly cold is merely a step nearer to a freebie from Clinique

good morning everybody! i hope you all had a reasonable night! ours was the usual (woke at 1.30/4.00 bottle/ 5.30/7.30 up)

yes egypt! he is so entertaining (- silly question: how do i post a pic on here???) - very vocal and active lately; but also very frustrated!!! he wants to do so many things and just can't yet - needs mumys help a lot!!!
wish i had bbc3. like to watch little angels! i always watched supernanny - sort of made sense

seems like all our lo's have colds! ds still has a blocked nose - sounds like darth vader
give him nasile too; he hates it!

so cute to follow all your sibling stories!!! sooner or later i'll ours tto; just not yet

and judd: welcome to the big baby club

Boohoo... been up since 4. I am doing that awful thing where in your sleepy state you are fighting the desire to sleep against the desire to instill good sleep patterns. So for an hour and a half patting, rocking and shushing... then a moment of weakness and a feed... she wouldn't settle again, so same pattern... culminating in her being the only sleeping body in our bed. This was on top of her normal night feed schedule. I spent some time yesteday reading old threads on controlled crying, which I loathe the prospect of but can see its shadow at the corner of my eye every time I blink. Any 2nd timers done it? I know we're too early at the mo', but I'm going to need to spend some time steeling myself if it's to be the solution.

A leetle leetle bit of mashed banana this morning was received more positively than the poor carrot which has been banished to the freezer.

Georgina how's the rash?

morning all
not too bad. dd cut her midnight feed . did a 10, 2, 5, 8.30 job. nice. still havent eaten anything but rice and a bit of pawpaw from mummy's finger.

i want to go to m&b this morning but dd's passport has promised to arrive.....must! we're francing tomorrow. i'll have to ring courier and see if they can give me more of an indication other than sometime between 9 and 5!

how is ds libb?

Rash still there... at this rate we'll have to swap nicknames, spots

Yes, we did controlled crying with ds1 (once we were 100% sure he was sleepy/not hungry/etc). To be honest, for the first three days it was hell on earth. I think I cried more than ds1 and a couple of times dh had to physically restrain me. However, after that I was SOOOO pleased we'd done it, and ds1 was so obviously much more of a happy chappy getting enough sleep.

It's one of the reasons though, that I've been a bit more relaxed with ds2 having a bit of a cry before sleep - if we do have to do cc then hopefully it'll be less of an event and over much more quickly because he's already learned fairly good sleep habits.

Morning everyone,

DS survived his day - but only had 1oz all day long. The childminder said that the bottle isn't the problem, it is the manky formula - he only wants the best! another problem is that he is not a grizzler so he sat quite happily all day slowly starving and watching the world go by - we then spent the whole evening (!!!) feeding, I ended up taking him to bed with me and latching him on there so I could doze. Sadly I have had to use formula again today as I didn't get a chance to express yesterday thanks to electricians wandering about etc. - today, however, is a different matter - man the pumps!

Blimey, you are all weaning. I haven't even thought about it yet, mastering my return to work is the hot topic in our house! Does this make me pants Mum of the Year? Please don't tell me I am screwing up something else . . .

Hope all is well with everyone here xx

You're not a pants mum - looking at ice cube tray thingumies is the sum total of my nod towards weaning, libb .

Poor you - must be so stressful and very exhausting having to feed all evening as well . Still, it's a good sign that he was happy at the childminders if a little parched! I'm sure he'll do much better today hugs.

Slapped wrist for me, I forgot to mention that a certain person who has had to leave us temporarily sends love to all the May mums.

Hopefully she'll do her own dirty work very soon

We do miss her ever so much. (hint hint)

Come back marmitey snack type person. We love you!

hi libb, thanks for ur comments. Did you go to see your GP?

libb, good to know lo is doing a bit better! you must be so exhausted!!! and i know its just so upsetting when they don't put on any weight! or does he????? - try to give him milk in a cup. that way he gets more quicker and might even swallow all - that's what they did with ds in hospital when i couldn't get him to latch on and he was starving - he just gulped everything down! something like those caps for the bottles, hold your hand under his chin to support mouth and cap and tiny sips.
hope your family is doing better soon - and NO! you are not a pants mum! every baby to its own pace.

georgina: i think you've sent your itch this way. for 2 days my arms are itching like mad. i don't see anything but i can feel the spots!

oh and yes "certain person" - let your humour fly this way! miss ya - we need more babies to compare our lo's to

Libb, dont worry too much about the childminder and lack of milk. Lots of people have told me that their babies didnt used to drink anything while away from mummy all day and instead waited until she came home from work before latching on all evening. They did say it got better once more solids and water were introduced later.

We arent weaning yet. Im just getting everything ready, I'm going to start in week 20 which will be 1 week before I start work. I figured that if I filled the freezer ready it wouldnt be such a hassle when ive gone back to work.

Anyone else feeling guilty about the amount of time spent with the d's. I feel really bad that in the morning dd is put on her mat or in her chair while I do washing, cleaning and mumsnet. I feel as if im ignoring her and not spending enough time with her.

Dont think my HV is very happy with me for not having dd immunised with the dtwp. Yesterday I asked her when the 5in1 would be in and she said a long time away yet and that i should carry on with the original immunisations. i THEN OVERHEARD HER TELLING ANOTHER MUM THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DTWP and that she recommends carrying on with them and not waiting for the 5in1. You could see from her face that she wasnt ammused by me. I really hope I dont have to wait too much longer for them I dont like having dd unvacinated. Its just a shame there isnt anywhere in Cardiff/south wales that does it privatly. Sorry about the caps lock.

Now I have the problem that it isnt so much DD waking all the time at night but the fact I cant get back to sleep. Last night she fed at 10, 3.15 + 7.30. She woke at 1.15 + 2 but I didnt need to go to her I could just hear her on the monitor. But from the 3.15 feed I was awake until 5.00. My mind just seems so awake and I cant switch off. I kept thinking about taking my car to the garage and then what time shall I go shopping etc etc..

Im also thinking about CC. I really dont want to do it and i'm dreading it. My goal is to get DD established on 3 solid meals a day and wait until she can roll herself back over from her belly as the majority of times thats what I have to do. If the waking continues then I will start it. This means im giving it until December some time. I just cant go back to work and be up twice a night. The main problem for us is getting her to nap in her cot for a resonable length of time and also settling better in the evening, instead of dp and I taking it in turns to go up and settle her.

I also wish the curry person would return.

Dont know whats going on with DD's naps. Normally in the morning after 2 hrs of being awake shes tired and so I feed her and then hold her until she goes to sleep. I cant then put her in her cot where shell sleep for 30 mins. But yesterday and today shes woken every time. Yesterday I tried 3 times and each time I laid her down she woke up. I even waited for 10 mins to make sure she was asleep before laying her down. In the end she didnt sleep until 3pm. This morning has been the same. Ive tried twice and now ive just given up and left her in the cot awake. I can hear her on the monitor talking etc. The problem is I know she wont go to sleep and after a bit she'll cry and then she wil be overtired this afternoon.
Blinking babies

kbaby: ds is very unsettled lately too! normally he has 2hour nap around 9ish am. last 3 days he sleeps about 40-50min and keeps waking up every 10min (i go and put his dummy back and stroke him back to sleep each time) - and he's awake again! guess i can get him as well sigh
re 5in1: one of the mums online talked about her lo had that one! well accepted too!
re waking: aren't we just silly? must be our "innerclock" - so used to get up at certain times that it's hard to go actually to sleep - same here

I think ive got her susssed and then she goes and does something completly different. Shes still awake I can hear her laughing, giggling and making adorable sounds. When I checked on her shes playing with her hands.

Im going out for lunch today and I know that she will be a right grouch for not having slept. Half of me thinks get her and rock her to sleep and the other half thinks no leave her as she has to learn and as she isnt crying she may as well stay there.

Why couldnt I have had a baby who naps well and sleeps at night.

While im on the sleep topic I wonder how many April Mums babies are sleeping through??

Actually Libb I sort of feel pants for DOING the weaning thing so don't go feeling bad for NOT doing it! I would have waited till 6 months if her sleep was not so bad. dinna fret.

And what did you do while DS was at the minder's? did you actually rather relish the freedom...?

DD shattered, has just gone down in cot for nap which is rare.. Am off to take advantage (do some work, boo)

when i look at our conservatory now; it looks more like ds playroom!! already - wow, i am so surprised how fast he grows. had to put away loads of clothes already!!! - have to find a place where to store them - the other day dp meantioned how funny he is with changing clothes or washing face. he always laughs! well, i try to make it a game for him though he doesn't get annoyed!!! sigh, and he thought ds is a natural talent