MN Little Italy 12

[SunflowerNeedsSunshine]

Ciao, hello, welcome!

morning, bit hangoverish.

aupair sorry no help here.

franca yes I'd say it is quite common and complicated. true when there's three it's not easy to handle and one always ends up paying the price. In primary school it happened to me. I was always invited by these two girls and made to be the maid while they were the princesses or smthing. I still remember to this day the playdates, the house, the anger inside, the cliques in the playground etc. IME the only resolution is to step away and find friends one is more compatible with. but this is up to ds when he is ready and when it happens. i wouldn;t know what you can do about it but reassure him and advice him. maybe gently push him towards other friends?

Where have you been Pippi? Out partying?

out for a meal with dh and friends. great time. dh and I have been out twice in a week .

Twice in one week? You are debauched.

Twice in a week! How lovely! . I've been meaning to organize "dinner" with some female friends and haven't got round emailing them yet

As for ds, I feel reassured that you are all suggesting the same things I said to him. "Allontanati if they make you feel bad", "you'll soon find a friend who won't "hurt" you" etc. Am I esagerando? Am I over protective? Boh. He said the other children don't want to play with him . I think it is not true.

I'd say the same thing and no you are not exagerating at all but unfortunately it won't happen immediately as kids can be very loyal to their friend and already in groups. maybe try to invite other school mates at home and see?

just to show off a bit more saturday as a mother's day treat I'll have the W H O L E day just for myself and the shops, liberty and the southbank!

Poor ds Franca, I agree with what the others are saying though, carry on as you are. At least he is opening up to you about it. Kids can be soooo horrid.
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at pippis social life!

Oh thank you all . sorry I've been a bit of a pain lately.

Pippi, that sounds lovely!

Don;t be too jealous girls. I'm only boasting becaus it is not normally like this, maybe it's the spring that brings the party animal out of me.

franca I hope I didn't sound all know-it-all, you should know by now I everything but!

re, telling playdates off - yes I do like I would with my own children.

poor dd2 has got temp.

and you've been not a pain.

and my english is pathetic.

Pippi - so shocked at at having not one but 2 nights out on fact I am . We have nonni coming out at the start of April and dh suggested we went out but seeing as I feed minirosa at round 8 ish we would be sitting eating at 9 and not home til late...Not sure its worth it !!!
I have my house rules and children stick by them ..well thats my theory ! - it works with the cugini !
AUpair sorry no help but I will ask if anybody I know needs one.
Saga sorry but am cross ...At nursery today teacher takes me to 1 side and says that dd 1 bit a kid . her version... They were doing giocco psycio something with a ball and baiscally from what I can gather the children play with the ball at the teachers watch how they interact and don't talk intervene etc. DD wanted the ball badly and got mega cross as she couldn't have the ball she bit this kid. As its a no teacher activity they did not tell dd off nor did they make her say sorry to this kid. Teacher would not tell me who it was she bit Afterwards whilst talking about this game the teacher asked the kids who wanted the ball and dd said 'me'. She was fine afterwards and played normally. Teacher said she probably wouldn't even remember maybe she is jealous angry re Minirosa. As it is normal we chat about school over lunch the conversation went like this ...
'what did you play with?' ---a ball
'what colour was the ball ?' ---red
'did you like playing with it ? ' No as XX wouldn't let me have it , I got sad , I cried.' This XX is the blasted kid who was the biter ..I posted ages and ages back when dd started . DD1 is tranquillo but she ( mum proud emotion) is intelligent and of course she copies what she sees- she has seen this kid biting so she thought she should do it back - Half of me is pleased ( opps) well done this biter gets some of her own medcine but the other half is cross as surely the school seeing this is so out of character should have taken time with dd even after this game to say sorry or to make her see it is wrong. I am going to talk to them again right or should I leave it ???

lol at the party animal!

Awwwwwww poor dd1 rosa!
I think they didn't say anything to her because that was precisely an esercizio di psicomotricita'.
I'm pretty sure that in a different situation they'd have asked her to say sorry etc. But yes I'd ask what is usually their response to such accidents.
SAdly, there also comes a time when a child bits/hits someone else. They do copy this behaviour, even when they know it is not tolerated at nursery/school/home.
Acknowledge her feelings (I know you were sad he didn't give you the ball etc, but please remember not to bit etc etc etc). I'm pretty sure this has been a one off, you and your dd sound so laid back, I'm pretty sure that biting is not in her nature, iyswim...

Rosa, I'd mention something in passing perhaps but not dwell on it too much for now. If it happens again then definitely make an appointment for a proper chat but if it's a one-off it's probably not worth it (as in I don't think it's something an Italian nursery would get het up about). Does your DD know she was wrong to bite?
Interesting that the gioco psicometrico (was that it?) is a no teacher involvment activity, I never knew that, I though it just meant crawling through tunnels and stuff. Shows how much attention I paid to nursery meetings.

How has your DD been about minirosa's arrival? Is she generally taking it all in her stride (not that this is to do with anything, I'm just curious).

I think in a session of psicomotricita' there is a time when they interact with the teacher and a time when they are observed: how they play, how they play together, how they interact etc. I love psicomotricita' (biased)!

Rosa I think you should say what you told us. I'd feel like you - happy that dd can stand up for herself in a way but angry that she had to resort to this and her and XX are not been made aware that it is wrong.
I'd like my daughter to have been told as long as the other one is when she does it.

twice in a week !! lucky if we go out twice a year!!!!

Rosa, hmm, it is tricky... it's difficult to discipline them about s.thing you haven't witnessed at their age. guess the teachers didn't think it was worth stopping the observation, maybe they were secretly glad the other child got a taste of their own medicine...

as I did know nowt about this psycometricita' thing - ignore my post.

I wouldn't hav ethought dd1 had an issue with minirosa, for what you say. as she? surely if she had she'd have shown in many different ways which you'd have picked up. no?

re going out when nonni come. rosa could you not express and let them feed her? For me it is so worth it to have some time alone. when out of the house suddenly you look at eachother a bit like you used to before you were surrounded by nappies bottles puke baby fook bits of toast on the floor piles of laundry everywhere etc .

did you guess that I looked around from were I am sitting now to get you that description?

Guys thanks - DD1 knows she is not to bite - We talked about it when ' the biter' was striking in the early days of nursery.
Thing is dd1 is so tranquil about minirosa she is so good with her and recently I have got some of the baby toys down and so dd1 is interested in them . She knows she is not to snatch / take them from minirosa and always says posso prendere minirosa ??? If she takes a toy that is near MR she always gives her another ( I had to say no to the blue felt pen though )
I never knew what the ' Pisc .. not trying to copy the word is now I know !!!!
We have a meeting this pm - I might just say what dd1 said at lunchtime . I diddn't mention the biting to dd as she diddn't say anything .

Expressing now thats an idea I could get the vaccum breast pump out and see what happens Nonna inglese would adore having minirosa all to herself !!!