MN Little Italy 12

[SunflowerNeedsSunshine]

Ciao, hello, welcome!

Blimey that thread lasted under a month !!
Re food Javier - I tend to introduce things slowly and do a mixture of purees then add new things sometimes incorporating them in with an already known taste and some new . I am wary of salt and excess oil / fat . BUt I now tend to cook without salt and add in to mine and dh food. I went mega slowly with weaning as had a couple of friends who went too fast and had terrible problems as the babies refused to eat ! If your dd is comfortable with eating what you do then fine go with it ...Just do what you think is right for your baby you know her the best !!

agree, wary of salt really. she is very keen on food. oggi si e' mangiata un miscuglio di sardine e avocado (puke) - un po' preoccupata about the salt in the fish, boh, but it is so healthy otherwise and cheap!

Hello! I love viggo btw !
I think you have to worry about added salt, fish should be all right. Here usually it is recommended to start with place, sgombro and merluzzo. And trout, if I remember well. As for meat it is recommended to start with carni bianche first. Dd loved rabbit, which of course was nearly impossible to find in Exeter.
Other food they recommend not to give to early are: honey (introduce after 12 months for risks of botulism), tomatoes (allergenic), strawberries (allergenic) and nuts of course.

Sunflower, sorry to hear about your dh, I can't believe they won't let him work from home . I sometimes suspect that companies are using the crisis just to cut people, iyswim (old sindacalista emoticon )

Viggo do you mean the thread about the woman who wrote living with teenagers in the guardian? I thought hr teeenagers were horrid tbh, but it appears on mn that she is the horrid one.

Agree with Franca you shouldn't give too much oily fish ....but fish is important - Also Egg here they say do the rosso first at about 8 - 9 mths then whole egg after a year.
Also Kiwi is another to do carefully as can cause allergies.

Lol, I gave kiwi as soon as she was weaned. Tomato (as in polpa) at 7mo even though you're supposed to wait until 10 months I think they say here. Can't help with the meat or fish I'm afraid, DD never got either, although I seem to remember it was all the baby animals (lamb, veal etc.) that were supposed to be introduced first. You can do nut butters and ground up nuts from 9mo if no allergies.
I think you have to use common sense, the the UK they say one thing, here another and elsewhere another thing entirely. We did keep off egg entirely for a year, then yolk only at first, no cow's milk unless parmigiano until a year and absolutly no processed/hydrogenated stuff, but apart from that anything went. Mainly curries in my house. Nothing forbidden except added salt and added sugar. My DD got introduced to a lot of different tastes and flavours quite quickly (wanted to get them in before the fussy stage hit!) and still has quite a wide range of foods she eats, but I really do think that depends on the child. My sister tried the same thing but has a child that won't eat anything, so who knows. In any case at this age it's the milk that counts more than the solids, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Who's Viggo?

Lol, I meant to write something entirely different then got sidetracked by food.

Sorry, haven't read the last few posts of the last thread (am in a huge hurry as conf call in a minute) but has heard of a journalist called Pignorelli or something similar? I've tried googling but to no avail. Firend who is researcher in the UK needs to know.

Crap typing, sorry, cat on lap.

Never heard of this Pignorelli/
Brange, I don't think milk more important than food until 1 yr is that popular in Italy.

Blimey! I'm reading the LWT thread properly now. I don't really know what to think.

I know it's not, they were very anguished about what I was doing for protein. I just asked "what about milk?" and they looked stumped. Yet they were telliing me DD needed parmigiano for the calcium and protein, Ye-es, so what about milk? Boh.

I think she got the name wrong, either that or we're not in fact looking for a journo. My friend is adorable but how she ever got the job as a researcher no one can fathom. She can't research her way out of a paper bag!

What's the LWT thread? (am actually dialliing in on my conf call, so shouldn't be asking!)

Lol!
I've to say that perhaps mine are now not getting enough milk. They do eat lots of mozzarella though, I wonder if that counts?
LWT: Living with teenagers was a column in the Family section of the Guardian on saturday about 2/3 yrs ago. Posh journo living in leafy north London having to deal with 3 (honestly quite horrid) teens. She and her partner were really up themselves anyway. She has written a book about her first son who is a drug addict and whom she kicked out when he was 17 . She is currently the target of mn wrath.

OMG can't believe it - DP's actually finished work now!!!! they're giving him 2 months pay, but no need to work his notice........ he' going to drive me insane

! Good thing about the 2 months pay!

Make the most of his presence! Leave him home and go to the movies !

Make a list of all the things that need doing round the house - he can do one at a time and only use 1 room for his tools etc etc !!
Or book a holiday ??? .
I have kept off the LWT thread it scares me !

Uninspired by what to cook for dinner. So fed up with this cookery thing!

i am viggo, aka javier!
yes, i have become obsessed with the lwt case, i think the articles were in the guardian till a few months ago, stopped buying the guardian as it made me so angry, full or rubbishy articles, like the lwt.
no, mumsnet is not a fan of the writer. it is not even official that the myerson is the lwt writer, though it is very likely.
lol at italians and their obsession with parmigiano! thank you for the weaning tips, was going to ask on a weaning thread but got worried that i might be attacked for early weaning and told to breastfeed till dd is 2 or something!

franca, how about sardines and avocado? that might get your dh to cook more often!

no, don't know that journalist either brange.

Rosa, don't worry, I told him, that he's doing the cleaning he was meant to do yesterday tomorrow!

and has a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of jobs, otherwise we'll never move from this house!

haven't really got into that lwt argument, haven't looked at any other thread since thursday I think, and feel better!

i agree that he only keeps tools in one room!

the lwt thread is not as toxic as it seems though. most of the posters seem to agree that the lady in question was misguided to publish the book. i plucked up courage and posted it on it claiming breezily that myerson is a crap writer, the usual clique popped up immediately afterwards disagreeing with me. then i asked if somebody could direct me to her articles about babies (very good according to the clique) but was ignored. i feel like i am invisible!

the best bit of the thread was xenia saying that state schools turn kids into drug addicts - another poster claiming that the husband didn't marry the writer so as to be able to keep both houses they own (how the hell does the poster know?) and a short discussion about whether grass turns you into a vegetable who watches crap telly or an aggressive thug! i love it! Classic mumsnet.

viggo, those sound like very valid arguments

mmmmmm we love both sarines and avocados, but separate!

Sorry, fell asleep by ds's side, who had troubles falling asleep, after a few good nights. I'm so worried for him, he is very troubled, worried and angry. Don't really know what to do. I think I need to chat with a psychologist, or something. Have just discovered that the school actually shares a psychologist with other 2 schools! Might try that route.

Franca, have you had any more ideas as to where ds's issues coming from (sorry if you have already said-not been around for a bit so may have missed on other thread)?
Sunflower- enjoy dh being at home. I cant understand his employers not allowing working from home. I dont understand employers reluctance fullstop with this issue. I work from home and I can honestly say I have never worked so hard in my life! I often find myself working in the evenings which I never would have done in my old office days!
Having said that-lovely sunny day today in Rome and all I want to do is be outside with a picnic or something

Yes lovely day isn't it About time!
Sorry to hear about your DS Franca. I have no advice really but I do know that boys his age go through a hormonal surge that makes them angrier. Maybe more physical activity would be good, a martial art or something? You are doing the right thing being there for him.