Child sex offender

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I can't believe Im actually writing this. I found out my sister, who has two children from previous relationship, has been seeing a man who is on the child sex offenders register. He was caught downloading child porn on a work computer. My sister is saying there's a fine line and he didn't know the girls were under age. I'm sickened. AIBU to feel like she's trying to pull wool over my eyes. As he's done so with her.

They explained how it may have escalated from normal porn to child abuse images

She has NO idea what she is talking about!! My dh used to look at porn & looking at indecent images of children NEVER crossed his mind.

The idea sickens him. As it would most decent men.

You have to want to see to look for it & it as easy as just popping an address in the address bar. These images are illegal. And are often encrypted, you have to know what to look for and again, most sites that allow it to be downloaded charge you for doing so.

She has said she wouldn't put her children in danger.

She cannot protect them 24/7. And as their relationship develops he may well try to convince her to let him look after them while she pops to the shops etc.

Or he may put sleeping pills in her drink so he can creep out of bed at night...

Unless she is awake 24/7 while he is around, she cannot guarantee their safety.

it isn't as easy as just popping an address in the address bar.

Different totally agree with you, and can I say this again loud and clear

it is not child porn porn is consenting adults

Children cannot concentrate. Children are left with guilt, shame, doubt, self loathing. They do not enjoy it. It is not natural it is not normal.

You do not go from adult porn to child abuse there is no link. A lot of adults watch porn, yet would never dream of googling child abuse.

Sorry cannot consent.

Also anyone who willingly enables the behaviour and condones it is just as bad I'm shocked at your mothers behaviour as well to be honest.

Anyone that says...Oh level 4, so not the worst out there.....just there's only 5 levels ffs!? And I struggle to believe that looking for normal 'legal' porn, could lead you into a level 4 child abuse site.

The whole thing stinks, and I'm so glad you are taking it seriously.

Putting aside the child abuse images, the fact that your DN said he preferred life before the boyfriend would say enough to me to think very seriously about a new relationship.

OP you are doing the right thing.

I am very worried about those children right now

OP, please do not rest until you feel you have done all you can. It seems you are the only person in their life that has their welfare at heart

I think you need to know what he actually did.

There are different levels of images and I think that there is a difference between a single image of a 17 year old in a bikini and thousands of images of child abuse.

And yes, in some circumstances, a 17 year old in a bikini can be classed as an indecent image of a child depending on other circumstances.

What he actually did and his sentence are a matter of public record so you can check.

And I'm not stupid I realise that predatory paedophiles target families. I used to know someone who helped on a helpline for refugees, someone actually went to the trouble of helping someone flee a war zone to abuse their child once they got to the UK.

I think you have made the right decision calling the police.

Make the request for information under Sarah's Law.

The police will explain the details of his conviction and any conditions on him receiving a suspended sentence. Once you have this information, you will be better placed to judge whether your sister is right.

I feel this point was missed
level 4 is penetrative sex between an adult and a child

Well done for contacting the police, once you know the facts you know how to move on.

At what point have I said o work in the care industry? I made the point quite clearly that it's a friend I am a carer for not my job. I have knowledge through a job of safeguarding children but that is not a caring role etc. I have disclosed no details of me or my friends names locations or anything. She is aware of my posts although not an mn user herself and is happy with the info I have provided.

What you also need to remember is that those who are on the sor are very closely monitored especially if his sentence was suspended. He will have had to disclose the relationship and her kids to his chikd protection officer, probation officer and social care or he would have been in breach of his licence and locked up.

The ones to worry about are the ones who haven't been caught and are under no observation at all imo.

My friend is disabled amd I am a carer for her and emergency contact and next of kin with hospital etc for her and the kids due to crap sperm donor and her having no family.

I said care system not industry. Your post above suggests you work as a carer (paid or unpaid doesnt matter) and therefore as part of the system of providing care information was disclosed to you. Just going on what you've said in your posts.

I would not rely on the monitoring system of the sex offenders register. People are very good at slipping though the net when they are motivated to. Different era but remember Ian Huntley had no criminal record despite being implicated in a number of sexual offences. Because he moved to a different part of the country he was lost in the system and wasn't monitored closely enough. The school did a background check and nothing came up because he wasn't convicted. The CRB system has now been updated to include police intelligence information as well as convictions so that a fuller picture can be provided.

Any more news OP? I think there are a lot of very worried mums thinking about you!

I'm not saying the guy is Ian Huntkey btw so don't jump on me for scare mongering, I'm simply pointing out that it is easy to learn lessons after something has happened rather than taking action to prevent it. I've said it before, better safe than sorry.

Just to add Roy whiting was one of the first entries in the sex offenders register and was being monitored on it when he murdered Sara Payne. Didn't stop him acting on his impulses.

I'm just going to repeat this.

Level 4 is very bad. "No torture or bestiality" does not make images of child rape okay!

I feel I should comment.
my brother went to jail for gross indecency, and is on the sex offenders registered.
he's is sociopath and incredibly dangerous child abusing monster. He had such mind control over his daughter we didn't see it till it was too late, he was sacked from a job for viewing 'on just' underage porn. ss we're called but he convinced them he wasn't a risk to her 'just an embarrassing mistake'
she then started some behaviour changes developed very strong phobias and panic attacks.
she then one day she took enough pain killers to kill 3 people. then it all came out. But as she couldn't bring her self to admit everything that had happened he was convicted of a lesser charge. she ended up sectioned for 2 years.
He was jailed 6 months.
He is charming handsome witty great company~ he will convince anyone it wasn't him... just a misunderstanding, he's not dangerous.
I know different. don't let this go! you must protect your sisters children. I failed to see my niece was at risk and will never forgive myself for missing signs something was wrong.

Bloody hell, Sleep, that's awful . I'm so sorry for what you and your family have been through. OP, I hope you've read that...

I hope that SS have been contacted, this all seems to be moving pretty slowly. I know a Peadophile that did the 'therapy', he is currently serving his second sentence for all levels, the 'therapy' worked well
The maximum sentence he is on btw is 5 years, which means he will be back on the streets in about 2 years from now so you can see from this that the sentences are very lenient...ie suspended sentence means diddly squat.

LegoSuperstar

I didn't see where levels were mentioned.