D'y ever wonder how many men have been lost in your ample bosom?

[frumpygrumpy]

PMSL

I didn't want to be the one to do it! I promise next time I will sellotape my fingers.

Working on it dingdong

I am a pitiful 5'3 triplets.......5'4 if i stand on tip toes

Im late now......only 1 day i know but still late is late. Humph.

Triplets does your tesco sell Krispy Kreme donuts? They have been my downfall this pregnancy and probably where the extra 3 stone has come from! I dont even have a KK supplier near me but have been known to do the 4 hour round trip to get some Also some very kind mummies on the May thread with me have been posting them special delivery

I see the midwife at 12.15. Am hoping for a sweep, please let it work.....

anything to clean up? [wide eyed and innocent]

Can someone please explain a sweep to me? Is it when they shove their fingers up your doodah and have a good rummage about to see how the land lies up there, whether they can feel a head, how many fingers they can get through the pearly gates and for lost things? Damn uncomfortable that. Good luck LG&T. I have never eaten a Krispy Kreme.......entice me.........

I'm potty training the DTs and its going quite well (SO FAR, I SAID SO FAR). Well, I say quiet well, I had prepared myself for a tidal wave and so the ensuing canal doesnt feel so bad This is key in life I am learning.

good luck lg&t hope it went your way with the midwife, will catch up with the rest of you in due course...

I am just about at the end of my tether with DT2. She is lovely 90% of the time but when she's not happy she really lets rip - she scratched her hands down my face 3 times this morning, pushed me away every time I tried to comfort her, kicking, screaming luckily I'm not at work today, I'd have been an hour late if I was! It was all about not wanting to go to nursery, she says her friends don't play with her, but when we talked it seems she has a friend there who does and everyone seems to be paired up. This has been going on for 2-3 weeks now, she really screams 'why won't you listen to me' why can't you do it right' etc - and yes I have taken cod's advice and got the 'how to talk so your kids will listen..' book but although I have had some success she seems to be getting more and more wound up. They are meant to be staying with my parents in a couple of weeks whilst we go to a wedding btu if this carries on I can't take her as they take a very no nonsense approach rather than the conciliatory approach I am trying

Rant over, thanks for listening

{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?rn=63889&topicid=1216&threadid=321596&redir=63889\Triplets, a fellow triplet mum is looking for you}

sorry, got my knickers in a twist

Triplets, a fellow triplet mum is looking for you

Hi dingdong, is the book helpful? I'm on the look out for something like this to give me new pointers....... My DTs are younger but all 3 of my children are currently testing me to my limits with shouting and barking at me/each other. My DD1 was never like this before and its sad when you feel you've done something horribly wrong.

How would your parents handle it? I think you must go to the wedding as otherwise she will learn she has control over these situations.

Before you work out how to go forward, do you feel 100% happy that there is only minor issues at nursery? Friends can be cruel and it comes and goes by the hour (my DD1 has similar issues in the school playgound but it changes day by day). If there is something 'bigger' going on at nursery (and I mean along the lines of one child that has taken a dislike to her) then I reckon you need to take her seriously and ask her what she'd like you to do. A quiet word with nursery maybe? A session you sit in on? Let her feel supported? Make a friend of the PITA kid which in turn gently pressurizes that kid to lay off?

Otherwise, if you are happy her nursery complaint is just the vehicle for her outburst then I would be inclined to issue some kind of punishment. Try never to do it when you are angry or shouting.

A big punishment for my DD1 (and I only do it if things are really awful) is to go to bed before the DTs. Could she go to bed before her sister while her sis gets an extra story? I make sure I tell her its going to happen earlier in the evening (I take her to one side and tell her quietly and clearly, this way it doesn't come as a hideous surprise just before bed provoking tears and not whilst I'm in the throes of anger and shouting "AND YOU'RE GOING TO BED FIRST TONIGHT YOUNG LAYDEE" )

My DP told me a supernanny technique (I haven't seen it so I don't know) is to put one piece of pasta in a jar everytime there is behaviour you don't like, then a punishment once you have 5 or 10 or however many.......Personally, I always go straight to the punishment as I don't do clutter For faily dodgy behaviour, I give two warnings and the third time its early bed or up to rooms with the door shut to play alone, away from the family.

I hope I don't sound like I know everything. Its just ideas.....its not working that well in my house but I hold onto hope that if I keep going with the same rules and the same outcome I will win through.

bless you fg for such a lengthy and considered response to my woes!

The book is pretty good actually, although I've only done 3 chapters so far. Its all about accepting that kids' feelings are genuine and not dismissing/denying them and helping them to reach a solution of their own. Difficult for 3yr olds but not impossible!The thing is DT2 is desperate to please, she constantly wants my approval of what she's doing and can't bear it when she gets told off - which is consequently a trigger of her rage. I have avoided pasta jars so far, but she does respond to stickers so I might give that another go. DT1 on the other hand needs sticks far more than she needs carrots

As far as nursery goes I think there is an element of truth behind it, at least in so far as she doesn't like it - for whatever reason. Last week she said 'mummy can I please not go to nursery ever again?' which made me very as I am mid negotiations over increasing my hours (but proud that she asked so nicely ) I'll have a chat with the nursery girls when I pick DTs up later.

It has been much worse since Easter, when we were away all together for a week. She doesn't seem to have settled back into normal life very well.

Thanks FG, good luck with the potty training - that was me this time last year

No problem dingdong, I've worried heaps over my DD1 and similar and it sometimes hard to see the wood for the trees. FWIW, if she goes on a lot about nursery being a problem then it must be a problem to her. If it was a one off she'd have moved to something else by now. I don't mean its a hideous nursery by any means, just that it sounds like something is happening there which is tying her in knots.

How about a home game of make believe nursery with you being one of the DTs? You can learn quite a bit about whats going on from it.

My DTs (2.5) are currently playing at being the nursery 'teachers'. Its good to hear that the conversation is usually "I'm off to get toast", "no, I'm taking .... to the toilet" and nothing like "piss off you irritating child"

Oh and (sorry to go on and on and on), I ocassionally ask DD1 if she'd like to make a wish to the fairies before she goes to sleep. I stick my fingers in my ears (you can hear everything) and she whispers a wish. It is a good way to hear whats going on in their heads. My DD once wished for a trip to the park for all of us not just mummy or daddy. It was at a time when it was easier for one of us to stay at home while the other took her out. Needless to say I could help that wish come true.

LOL fg my 2 play at nurseries too and its always been pretty harmless stuff, just as you say 'right, who's here?' then they do the register, then they get a book and 'read' it, bless them. I will delve deeper and let you know...good idea about the fairies, I tried it once and it was good, don't know why I haven't done it since (brain not in gear, most likely!) anyway this is the book

Thanks for that dingdong, I'm going to order a copy and hope it comes with a clean cloth to stuff in my mouth and bite on

I wish it was called 'How to Swear So Your Children Don't Repeat It In Front Of The New Neighbours But Effectively So You Feel Purged'.

I so feel like a glass of wine right now.

KHIN - can relate to dt's not settling at night. We made 'sleeping' mistakes with ds1 aswell and don't want to do it again

I have no soloution as yet, hv told me not to do controlled crying as they are too young find that they don't wind down and go to be until 9.30pm (2.5hrs too late!!) then wake midnight 4am then 7am. I am tired too....

Hope all else is ok xx

LG&T - hope baby arrives soon - I wanna cuddle

So do i OOGS so do i......

Midwife was lovely, have had a sweep and been asuured baby does not fit description of an elephant. She managed to tickle his head and he wriggled, im all soft and ready to go. See her agin in a week then

FG lovely idea about the fairy! I may have to try that, i do worry about their little heads being crammed with info at the moment and a very distracted mummy missing the signs of unhappy kiddies. The two middle ones came home from their dads a day early this weekend as they missed me and dh so much and were worried about the baby. They are only 4 and 6

Of course the DT's just yell at my tummy every now and again "get out baby", "can you get any bigger mum?" " oh youve still not had it then?" usually followed by a poke in the tummy. Not concerned at all Made of hardy stuff twins.

lol

So lg&t..... have you tried any acupressure/acupuncture etc or are you happy for baby to come when baby's ready?

Should I jump onto the Plymouth train?

Devondoris - just read your friday post, have emailed you

Not had any accupuncture yet Mars, but will next week if he is still hanging in there. Im too afraid of the rasberry leaf capsules and Caullophyllum as the last thing i need is the birth to go any faster Im just gonna have to wait him out i think. By all means jump on a train though, would be lovely to see you. What other tricks do you have for me to try?

LG&T - that's so sweet! About the 4 & 6 yr old, rather than the hardy twins!

< Doris pokes her head round the door, does a quick to everyone and runs out before DH finds that she isn't working on his leaflet as promised >

sex lg&t.... sex!!!!!!!!

Love got the baby in and love will bring the baby out.

Hi DD... get back to work

Mars! Sex and "shall I jump on the Plymouth train" surely don't go hand in hand?

Hmm. Just finished work. DH went to bed an hour ago cos he said he was tired! Hah! He isn't the one who gets up twice a night to replug a dummy! Never mind. He's being quite sweet at the moment and actually helped with some of the jobs the other night. Also he's giving me £10 a week so I can go to salsa. The generosity overwhelmes me...

FG your mind.......

I'm struggling to keep up with this thread atm. Not had a spare minute lately with the dts playing up. Shay's latest escepade was to empty a bottle of perfume everywhere. He was retching and screaming and I was calling NHS direct in a panic. Little bugger!

I've jsut bought a potty. Nooooo!

Afternoon ladies. Am enjoying a brief respite before I tackle what is known as the Kids' Bedroom. Imagine the messiest room you can, then treble it. Then, treble it again. That's their room, that is.

afternoon fellow mothers, i'm new on mumsnet and hugely enjoying the multiples threads.

i have 2 identical boys (not quite down with thread shorthand yet) who are approaching not only 20 months but also realisation that they can work together to do naughty things. although at the funny stage i can see this turning very unfunny. so far it's harmless toilet paper pulling of roll, they have not tried to stuff it down the loo and flush ... yet. or pulling chairs to shelves to get at the higher shelves ...

i'm shattered and at work today. they are both ill at the moment and since getting my nights back i just don't know how i handled all that broken sleep for months, it just takes one night to knock me out now.

what i find really hard when they are ill: you don't even get a break to drink wine in the evening.

every twin mum deserves a break ...