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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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GrumpyOldFucker · 09/10/2017 14:41

We can’t all thank you! Never know how to do that.

Today’s food
1coffee with a little cashew milk
Low carb chicken soup
Probably beef stew plus some veg tonight.

Exercise
Weights session
Walk dog for an hour

LastNightMyWifeHooveredMyHead · 09/10/2017 14:51

Cheers, @BIWI - I'm using mfp only to track things immediately they leave my plate: I'm just getting twitchy as it keeps chastising me - it's nearly as bad as the Big Stick Grin

ShastaBeast · 09/10/2017 15:03

Thanks BIWI. Drinking water is definitely an issue. I'm so glad I'm at the lower end of the volume required now. I need to go look up the science behind it again. I'll try drinking hot water over winter. I drink a lot if I take meds at night but suspect that doesn't count. I'll give the lemon a try as I wasn't eating it much beforehand. Diary on the other hand could be an issue, I lost lbs while eating plenty but have stalled before with no other reason. Worth a shot when I get organised.

Googling opiates is eye opening. Definitely no addiction, I reduced my meds a lot about a year ago but it fluctuates. 60-120mg of codeine is average but had a bad night so took an extra dose. I have a stronger med for big flare ups but going to the gym has helped hugely. I wonder if the slower digestion causes increased ingestion of energy from food and slower metabolism. I don't have sugar cravings too bad but fruit is hard to drop completely but I did ok last BC.

pinkingshears · 09/10/2017 15:04

Can this WOE be done by someone who has had Bariatric surgery (the gastric bypass kind) pls? this can cause 'dumping' if the post surgery person eats too much fat (even 'good' fat) I understand so I thought I'd ask on behalf of a friend

LtheWife · 09/10/2017 15:10

Hi all,
first bootcamp but until 6 weeks ago I was doing the 8 week blood sugar diet. I managed to extend it to 12 weeks without a problem and lost a decent amount but then had a house move so well and truly fell off the wagon! Thankfully I only put 4 lbs back on but I'd like to go down a dress size or two and get to more comfortable weight.

SpiderWilly · 09/10/2017 15:21

Thank you BIWI, I'll make sure I add butter to my veg tonight and drop the beans.

AdiosPieceOfToast · 09/10/2017 16:02

Signing in, hello everyone - clueless but keeping on RTFT Smile. Aside from one overnight event this weekend where I can't choose my food (set menu - argh!) I have my halo on.

Hippadippadation · 09/10/2017 16:11

NOMORE if you put what it is (or PM me if you're not happy to put it here, I'll add it. Not sure about IOS though, I don't use it.

All those using MFP. I also use it, even though you're not supposed to track on BC, otherwise I lose all sense of portion control and keep gaining. Just don't press "complete" on the day then it doesn't shout at you & you've still got everything logged.

Coolpineapple · 09/10/2017 16:12

Hello all, I'm really new to Mumsnet but have had great results on LCHF diets before and felt so much eating this way! So really feeling motivated to join the boot camp Smile

HolgerDanske · 09/10/2017 16:18

Very late lunch!

Litttle gem lettuce

Tuna chunks in sunflower oil

Pickled gherkins

Black Olives

One boiled egg

Extra olive oil drizzled over, plus cracked black peppercorns

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!
ilovecherries · 09/10/2017 16:29

Shasta I'm not sure of scientific answer but I was on motphine patches for about 3 years after an accident, and certainly a) had a huge weight gain and b) craved carbs ALL the time or I felt nauseous. Sadly didn't lose the weight when I stopped them tho!

Veryflummoxed · 09/10/2017 16:55

* but I normally have a jug of water in the fridge with lemon/lime/cucumber in. Is this allowed??*
Yes it is

(Apologies if this was already answered, I RTFT but can’t rememberGrin)

NOMOREoatcakesandcheese · 09/10/2017 16:58

Thanks Hippadippa I think I’ve done it by downloading an app called sheets.
😀

cafeaulaitpourvous · 09/10/2017 17:09

Was starving at 3:30pm when we got back from school.

Boiled a handful of sprouts with a couple of florets of cauliflower until perfect. Put some butter on the top to melt in and scoffed the lot
Was a win win situation as

A it’s low carb
B the kids were not interested in mine and were happy to eat their fruit snack.

Yay

Frigglet · 09/10/2017 17:12

Hi. Reporting in gingerly. Can someone kindly add me to the spreadsheet as 100 please?

B - 2 scrambled eggs with butter.
L - 2 more eggs, kale, rolled herring, mayo
D - kale, beef, mushrooms, mayo

Camomile tea
1 litres water - so far...

ClariceBeanTuesday1 · 09/10/2017 17:42

Well, put in my starting weight of 147 Blush. Hoping to lose a stone but would be happy with 10lb even to get me into the nines (a figure my scales have not seen for around 5 years!) Feel utterly rotten today after weekend away involving overindulgence of food and wine so hoping this is a new start... Good luck everyone

Veryflummoxed · 09/10/2017 17:43

Both my meals the same today. Chicken winglets, green dressed salad hm coleslaw. (Fat adapted so no breeakfast)

farine · 09/10/2017 17:43

I'm in! Decided not to join in the spreadsheet - mainly because I can't sort it on my phone!

I've got about 1.5 stone to lose before I am where I am at the beginning of this year. Various excuses made me eat and drink too much and time to knock it on the head.

So far today I have had
Eggy muffin things for bfast (egg, cream , spring onions, little bit of bacon and cheese in muffin tray)

For lunch Butter chicken (left over roast chicken, shallots, fried in lots of butter, with spices, tinned tomatoes, cream and spinach)

Dinner will be home made bolognese sauce - all fried in butter and with buttery green beans

Had 3 coffees with some double cream

Does this sound like it's on plan.

Struggling to get water intake up - just downed three pints in one sitting - need to space more

I know that my evening glass of wine will be a hard habit to break so need to either get on here or get stuck into some tidying up or something to distract.

BrassicaBabe · 09/10/2017 17:44

I started LCHF a fortnight ago when BIWI posted the BC "call to arms" in Chat. I've lost 6lb since then!

Added my weight to the xls

Today has been mostly "on the run"
B: celery filled with peanut butter (fell at the first sodding hurdle!! Tomorrow will have cream cheese)
L: peppered mackerel fillet
D: salad with smoke salmon, half a mackerel fillet, grated cheese and a dollop of mayo

Doing quite well on the water front. Can't give up my Diet Coke habit though. Just, no.

ChinchillaFur · 09/10/2017 18:08

Hi everyone. Hope all your day 1's are going well.
No problems here. Mega busy at work as forecast but had a large breakfast at 6:45 then lunch at 1:30 without passing out!

B: 2 eggs, 2 bacon all fried in coconut oil
L: chicken caesar salad
D: spag bol (sauce) with cauli rice, HM guacamole, cheese & sour cream
Snack: I baby bel

Catbot · 09/10/2017 18:21

Evening all! I'm on it. Avocado for breakfast. Corned beef and salad for lunch (processed I know but I was struggling to find something I wanted in the Co-Op this morning). Leftover chicken tonight with tarragon and cream and cauli rice and leeks.

And no Wine

Thiswillbemyusername · 09/10/2017 18:23

Hey all! Hope everyone has had a successful, carb-free day

My meals today have been:

B: Hard boiled eggs, Gouda cheese, kale and spinach with mayo salt+pepper
L: cured beef and pork scratchings
D: Cajun chicken with roast cauliflower and carrots

According to MFP I have consumed merely 8g of carbs today (not including dinner as that's cooking presently)

singadream · 09/10/2017 18:24

Dinner is going to be roasted aubergine with melted mozarella on it and a bit of stir fried lamb mince and onion on top.

HarlotsWeb · 09/10/2017 18:48

Rounding off the day with beef burger and buttered broccoli. Is the beef burger too processed? It is more a posh steak haché kind of thing than a Tesco own brand frozen thing, but am now a bit worried!

YoLoNovVitMe · 09/10/2017 18:54

I'm trying to think of tips I have learnt since bootcamping before and share these. Maybe other old-timers Wink can do it too!!

Someone did the fruit teabag in fizzy water one already.

For the sporty types I recall Grah or someone else does marathon cycling runs fuelled only by peanut butter.

For those with diet coke habits... I used to love diet coke. Since being on this WOE it now tastes disgustingly sweet. Basically just like Pepsi used to taste to me when I drank diet coke. Yuck. Never predict you will keep the same habits. They will either change naturally because your tastes do on this woe, or you will fully commit to overcoming them. Either way, don't stock up yet!

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