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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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TimbuktuTimbuktu · 12/10/2017 21:26

Better day today

B-cheese and veg omelette
L- halloumi salad
S-ham and cheese roll
D- meatballs, roasted veg and pesto

Going to stay with a friend this weekend though so I'm a bit worried about being able to stick to it. I have already prewarned her so hopefully it will be ok!

HarlotsWeb · 12/10/2017 21:34

B ff yoghurt (with vanilla essence that turned out not to be OK after all :) )
L lamb stew with red cabbage
D lamb and French bean curry with coconut and ginger

I think the French beans and cabbage might be a bit high...

CarbyDiem · 12/10/2017 21:53

Looooooooooong day today. Started a new job (same job different role) so brain hurts.
B. Cream coffe and HB egg
L. Quiche thing (no pastry). Celery. Cucumber
D. Cauli and broccoli cheese and chicken and spinach.
Lots of water.
Went to roller derby first time in 5 weeks (leg op). Now aching like a bastard.

SayrraT · 12/10/2017 22:27

ASD 100lbs Shock that's fucking amazing!! Well done!

This conference is so good for food and wine steak for lunch then duck for dinner. Yum.

AdiosPieceOfToast · 12/10/2017 23:19

Hi Everyone, today’s beeb the first day I’ve found really hard, I’ve been craving sugar madly and wondering if I’m doing something wrong or if it’s normal at this stage?

I’ve just about hung on but had a large handful of nuts, too much dairy and a tiny square of dark chocolate - so actually not hung on at all. Not sure what’s wrong with me Blush

singadream · 12/10/2017 23:33

@cafeaulaitpourvous what are the egg and bacon things?

Almahart · 12/10/2017 23:44

Was out this evening and had a not very nice salad nicoise from Ear but was still hungry so had the inside of a stack burger from
McDonald's as Stuntnun (I think) suggested upthread. What a brilliant idea!

Had two vodka and sodas too. I know thats bad

OuaisMaisBon · 13/10/2017 05:10

singadream, I'm not sure what cafeaulaitpourvous's egg and bacon things are, but I posted a recipe for crustless quiche and crustless quiche but muffins sort of thing, earlier in this thread and will post it on the recipe thread too. But here it is again, in case you're interested (I made them with pancetta, chilli and cheese yesterday and they are yummy.)

I copied this from an earlier bootcamp (aplogies to whoever originated it!) and have put in the ratios for muffins I find work for me on my favourite ham ones!
"Crustless quiches are great - 4 eggs to 250ml cream, handful of grated cheese, add whatever filling you like (salmon and broccoli, bacon bits, mushrooms and peppers etc.). Mix, pour into a pyrex dish, bake at 180 for around 40 mins or until no longer wobbly. Cool, cut into slices, good for snacks on the run."

Muffins: 6 eggs = 375 ml cream 240gms smoked ham (ish), leeks, sage, touch of chilli powder, salt, pepper in eggs and cream.
1 egg = 63ml cream, 40 gm smoked ham
4 eggs, 250 mls cream, 180 gms ham - makes 13, too much liquid.

"Crustless quiche "muffins" are good too. Fry up finely chopped veg (leeks, broccoli, peppers, mushrooms, onions, sweetcorn whatever she likes) and maybe some ham/bacon/cooked salmon. Put in muffin tray holes to 1/3 fill each hole, top each muffin hole with grated cheddar. Then whisk up eggs and a slosh of cream, salt and pepper and pour over the cheese. Bake at 180 for about 30 mins or until "set". They will rise up beautifully in the oven and then sink a bit once cooled. I find 2 eggs does 4 muffins. DH and I eat 4 eat for lunch with soup"

OuaisMaisBon · 13/10/2017 05:20

Good morning, all! I had a very hard time yesterday keeping off the wine as Thursday is the beginning of the week-end where I am and it is a tremendously hard habit for me to break. But I managed it, no chocolate craving either, which is an improvement!
My husband has just left for a long business trip and I am wondering whether I'll do better or worse on my own! I don't work and have few friends here so will be left to my own devices for quite a long time. I told him I'll have lost at least 4lbs by the time he gets back, so I will be aiming for that and hope not to self-sabotage!
Bored with drinking plain water, I stuck some slices of cucumber in a jug of water and put it in the fridge overnight, so I have that tasty delicacy to look forward to today! Lemon or lime slices would probably work to just flavour the water if I think of it and once BC Lite is on, I'll be throwing a few raspberries in my water for a change in flavour.
Have a good day, everyone, and KOKO!

HarlotsWeb · 13/10/2017 05:44

Day 1 of 66!

Does this count as a NSV? My skin is looking fabulous - really glowing and smooth - from the water and fat. My mouth tastes a bit grim though, and my wee smells funny. ..

OuaisMaisBon · 13/10/2017 06:14

I'm sure that's a NSV, HarlotsWeb Grin Good stuff!

Rshard · 13/10/2017 06:33

Checking in for day 1 of 66.

Def a NSV harlotsweb. I’ve slept really well this week, obviously been waking for a wee (or 2) but I’m getting straight back to sleep instead of lying awake. I’m counting that as an NSV.

SayrraT · 13/10/2017 06:45

adios it's normal at this early stage but it's important to ignore the cravings. Honestly, very soon you won't even think about it.

Gammeldragz · 13/10/2017 06:49

Harlots excellent NSV. Sounds like ketosis is kicking in, with the funny breath and wee smell. Drink plenty of water.

wecantallbeperfect · 13/10/2017 07:15

Morning all Smile

Today's going to be difficult (well this evening) every Friday our lovely elderly neighbour comes for takeaway and TV night. She brings the best desserts and loads of sweets Shock

My plan is to make my own stir fry so she won't notice I'm not eating the takeaway and have some Greek yoghurt - not in a glass dish.

My willpower normally leaves town on a Friday night and Tonight I'm determined not to mess up my entire week in three hours Confused

Have a great day everyone.

Scabbersley · 13/10/2017 07:25

I've lost 3lb. In two days! Now comes the hard bit - sticking to this WOE over the weekend...

GoBigOrange · 13/10/2017 07:38

Day four done, mostly successfully. I bit the bullet, stuck grouchy teething DS in the stroller and walked the three mile round trip to the grocery store so I could do a bit of shopping. Was obviously limited by what I could cram in/hang off the stroller but picked up mushrooms, spinach and other bits, so we will now survive until tomorrow night when DH (and our truck) get home. B - 2 scrambled eggs, L - spinach, mushroom, cheese salad with olive oil and dill pickle relish. D - a Bratwurst (2g carbs, so not too bad) and more spinach, drowned wilted in butter this time.

JumpingIntoLCHF · 13/10/2017 07:45

it's really interesting you've lost 37lbs and have gone down so many dress sizes. (Actually I'm a bit envious) I've lost round about the same amount but have only gone down 2 sizes

This and all the related posts. I'm 5ft 8 and started at 19 stone and size 20 to 22. I've dropped a stone and am now an 18 at just under 18 stone. It's so variable, the relation between weight and size isn't it, from person to person?

AdiosPieceOfToast · 13/10/2017 07:54

Thank you SayrraT Smile

blackteaplease · 13/10/2017 08:06

Morning all. I managed to avoid the wine at my friend's house last night which I am pleased about.

I've also brought chicken salad to work whereas usually I get a sandwich from the van on Fridays.

Tonight will be the test as I need to avoid wine and millions of snacks. I have pork scratchings and olives to see me through.

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 08:19

Hi everyone,

We are almost a week down already!!

Yesterday I noticed that my back fat that used to bulge out of my bra strap at the back is gone - clearly it was mostly water retention that was causing it. So although my weight loss has slowed after the initial whoosh, there are still victories to be had along the way. I also slept properly well the night before last which is quite unusual these days - I have had a difficult year and earlier in the year had a six month period where I hardly slept at all which was horrendous.

Yesterday I walked to the shops (it was such a lovely, sunny day here) and back and although I had forgotten to eat lunch, and since I don't eat breakfast that meant no food yet. I had a brief moment of feeling a little hungry/lightheaded/ not sure what the right term is, but it was fine in the end and I managed two hours out without needing anything to eat. The body really is actually okay with not having eaten for a long while and when you get over the first hungry feeling it actually passes and you can carry on regardless.

Breakfast: none
Lunch: none
Dinner: fish curry with sag aloo on the side (I gave all the potatoes to my partner and just had spinach)
Snacks: a couple of teaspoons of peanut butter (not strictly bootcamp so I'm sorry BIWI, but it was all I had available at my partner's house to tide me over until dinner)

Scabbersley · 13/10/2017 08:23

B: eggs and mushrooms, butter and olive oil

Going to be a busy day and havent thought about meals Confused

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 08:30

Stuntnun that burger sounds good! I do really enjoy bunless burgers in other establishments but have never considered it with MdDonalds as the standard burgers don't have enough accompaniments to appeal to me.

It's interesting though, that I don't even particularly like the breakfast they do. It's a psychological thing, completely. It's hard to explain but I'm sure some people will relate. It's not the breakfast itself that helps on a day where I really don't want to go out and face the day, it's the idea of it. So once I have switched my emotional state, it no longer appeals. A bit like someone was saying about viewing whatever food it is with emotional detachment. I switch my thinking and no longer need that particular crutch. I have to stay so vigilant, though; as I said yesterday, for me it never really goes away - my emotional responses have been laid down over years and years of habit and repetition and are really very entrenched.

ilovecherries · 13/10/2017 08:37

I have a duck. Ducks were on special offer in Tesco yesterday. Now eyeing said fowl and wondering what to do with it as my usual duck-cooking accompaniments are off the menu.

prettybird · 13/10/2017 08:42

How about rubbing the skin with cinnamon, salt & pepper and roasting simply? In terms of a sauce, I remember when I was waitressing at Uni, the hotel used to do a lovely sauce to go with duck that had cream and pink peppercorns.

Serve with asparagus, roasted broccoli (for the contrast) and celeriac Dauphinoise. Fondant celeriac is also nice Smile