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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to Week 1 - October Low Carb Bootcamp starts here!

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BIWI · 09/10/2017 07:50

Morning all Flowers

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W-L3Zo6bEtw-zwqIVGRzCfGSgX0ZUxlC3snVbEb-J-g/edit?usp=sharing Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness ]]

If you haven't already, have a really good look around it - check out all the lovely stuff on the tabs at the bottom.

And here are the rules. Print these out and make sure you keep them handy:

1. Eat three meals a day
If you're not adapted to low carbing, then you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder!

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day.

There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. I think Total Full Fat is the best, but other posters have also discovered a good one at Lidl.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these make a very good low carb snack, and can be added back in after these first two weeks, they are very moreish and can quickly become very carby. Also, carb counts vary enormously. Almonds and macadamias are the lowest.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 08:43

Ohhhhh yummy!! My partner and I keep looking at the whole duck that's on sale in Sainsbury's at the moment. Might get one this weekend. How much was it at Tesco?

I think I would roast it whole, or maybe take the legs off and make cassoulet with that (Nigel's cheat version is so easy to make). If you don't have many (or any? I can't remember if you're allowed beans on bootcamp but I imagine it's probably a no) butter beans it would be just fine for carb content, as long as the sausages are good quality. If I did use the legs for that I would probably roast the rest of it and use it to make some kind of low carb take on pancakes and crispy duck. I'd use gem lettuce for wraps and add cucumber and spring onion, and find some kind of low-carb sauce. Or a stir fry, that's always good too.

78Ash · 13/10/2017 09:19

Thank you @Veryflummoxed, thought it must be too good to be true. Just over a week before that treat is allowed.

CremeDeSudo · 13/10/2017 09:19

I know I said I wouldn't weigh 'til Monday but I couldn't help it - I've lost a pound! So chuffed! I don't know if anyone saw my 'Weight Loss Rant' on the Weightloss Chat board, but I've been trying to lose weight the "right" way since beginning of August. In 2 months I lost 4lb. I've just lost a quarter of that in 4 days! 4 days!! Grin Grin Grin

Last night I couldn't finish my tea. I think it was partly being not hungry and partly because I'm struggling with all the cream based, rich foods in the Diet Doctor meal plan. So next week I've ingnored the meal plan and devised my own - barely any cream. At the moment the thought of creamy sauces is turning my stomach a bit.

Scabbersley · 13/10/2017 09:27

CremeDeSudo I think part of the reasn that I haven't been hungry is that I constantly feel nauseous because of the amount of fat I am eating! I love olive oil but not butter and cream

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 09:29

You don't have to have cream! It stalls some people anyway so if you don't want it, don't have it! You can get the fat you need from fattier cuts of meat or being liberal with the olive oil.

CremeDeSudo · 13/10/2017 09:30

Ditto. Also feeling a bit nauseous...oldies, does that in improve?

That being said, I'm definitely enjoying the not being hungry! Wink

DrDiva · 13/10/2017 09:30

Thank you for the throat tip, Grah !

And Ragz (I think I have the right person - my iPad isn't scrolling, sorry!) those photos are inspirational! It's not so much the weight I mind for myself, as the fact I put it all on round the middle, and look like a cream puff on toothpicks. As my sisters kindly used to call me. Grin your u give me hope that one day I too will have a waist!

Congratulations to everyone who have lost already!

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 09:33

If you like eggs you can have them devilled with plenty of mayo, or in egg salads with mayo. You can have tuna salad with tuna in oil rather than brine.

You can also reduce your portions slightly. Eat what you need, not what you're used to from previous meal sizes. It hardly takes any time for your appetite to reduce quite markedly.

CremeDeSudo · 13/10/2017 09:33

I don't really eat meat. Only chicken usually. I've had mince to make burgers this week which was OK but given the choice I'd probably choose not to have it again. Having bacon in the morning at the moment too, but again would rather not have it!

Am getting some mayo this week to try with salads. I've never been a huge mayo fan either really, but giving it a go.

I like the coffee with cream and Greek Yoghurt with cream, but the sauces feel a bit much.

Will be trying to fatten things up with olive oil more going forward I think.

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 09:41

If you like chicken you could have turkey for burgers instead? Just add a bit of olive oil since it's quite lean.

I don't actually like mayo at all - would never eat it in sandwiches or put it on my food, can't have it on burgers, etc. But I do like it in egg/tuna salads as long as I can control how much is in there so I can get the balance right.

Devilled eggs are nice if you are bored of plain boiled eggs.

Boil the eggs for about 7 minutes. Leave to stand in the warm water for a minute to make sure they're cooked though.

Peel, cut in half lengthways, scoop out the yolks.

Mash the yolks together with mayonnaise, curry powder or Garam masala, powdered coriander/cumin/whatever you like, plus salt and pepper.

Spoon the mixture back into each of the eggs, sprinkle with a little bit of cayenne pepper and scatter some chives on top.

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 09:42

Sigh. Turkey mince*

Scabbersley · 13/10/2017 09:44

I'm not eating cream or adding it to foods. I'd rather eat neat olive oil. Not sure where that stands in the Bootcamp canon.

Scabbersley · 13/10/2017 09:45

I am enjoying the full fat greek yogurt though. Yum. I have to watch how much of it I eat. I don't bother with vanilla or cinnamon, I love it plain.

CremeDeSudo · 13/10/2017 09:46

Devilled eggs sound like a winner. Love eggs. Thanks for that one @Holger.

Turkey mince is also a good shout. I'll have a think about that one too Smile

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 09:47

It's absolutely fine. Cream is there for people who want to have it, there's no rule that you have to have it. And your use of olive oil if that's what you prefer is also fine. Butter is actually better for you in some respects, so I will sometimes use half and half butter and olive oil on my veg (for example) if I don't fancy only butter.

Thiswillbemyusername · 13/10/2017 09:59

Ladies and gentlemen, I am a loser!

3lb down today Grin

(Sorry I haven't read full thread yet I am just pretty excited and wanted to share the news!! Will read through now)

HolgerDanske · 13/10/2017 10:37

Well done, that's great!! And well done to anyone else who has lost lbs this week as well! Smile

And if you haven't lost yet, or you're not weighing till Monday, KOKO and focus on NSV's for motivation! And drink LOADS of water! One of the most important factors for seeing a loss. It's the main thing I struggle with. I really have to make myself drink as I don't particularly like water.

ilovecherries · 13/10/2017 10:40

Holger, I went to look at the receipt to check the price, and realised it was actually Sainsbury's I bought it from - with another £3 off as it needs to be cooked today. Thanks for all the ideas, everybody :).

This, woo hoo, well done!

Creme, I know what you mean. I lost 7lbs between 1 Jan and 22 May. I've lost more than 2.5 stone from 22 May till now.

prettybird · 13/10/2017 10:42

I'm a daily weigher but only log the Monday weight. If I'm "up" I don't berate myself but remind myself to drink more water and to resist the low carb snacks. Also going to bed earlier seems to help. Smile

FinallyHere · 13/10/2017 10:45

Adios craving sugar? I remember that stage, i understand that it is perfectly normal. Can you observe it, rather than try to fight it?

I had blocked it from my mind, but the first few, three or four days that I ever did strict Bootcamp, all I could think of was ... sugar. I tried to step back and observe it, rather than be consumed by it but found it very very difficult. I also noticed that my 'monkey brain' mind kept bringing up suggestions for different kinds of food, all mostly sugar: bar of chocolate? a large bar of chocolate? eating just half of a large bar of chocolate? A row? Ok, just a small bar? A square? That last chocolate in the box that DH never finished? Looking under the shelve incase any chocolates had rolled under?

I would fight that one down, a brief, very brief pause and a picture of a doughnut would just float into my mind. Get rid of that and it would be something else: crumble? Apple crumble? It's apple season now and the apples would be from the garden and hence organic, and zero food miles! Thats so good for you and for the planet I practically have to eat it, you know it makes sense?

Chocolate cake? Everyone likes chocolate cake! I could make a chocolate cake and know exactly what was in it. Oh, and while i was out buying the ingredients, i could ... get a bar of chocolate too. I could make a cake in a cup (google is your fiend, but just.don't.do.it using almond flour which is practically low carb.

On.and.on.and.on.and.on it went, no matter what i did or tried to do. Then suddenly, it just wasn't there any more and i felt as if i had fought the demons and won. One of the things that has kept me focused on LCHF and off sweet stuff, was a fear that if i went back to feeding that demon, I might not be strong enough to fight it off again.

Might sound fanciful, it it is a very real fear for me. I have since then. occasionally eaten very high cocoa ( montezuma 100%, other chocolate is available) chocolate and been pleased i could eat just a row and stop, which i never could with more sugary confectionary. On of the things that I am very glad about LCHF, is that I am glad to be out of the particular hell that is a craving for sugar. I am convinced that it is every bit as addictive as other drugs, certainly for me and probably only because I have 'used' it so much, over such a long period of time.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 13/10/2017 11:01

Well, I can't say BC is going well for me this time. Hey ho. I left work early on Wednesday with a migraine, and spent the afternoon in bed, asleep. Honestly, I don't think I've spent as many hours snoozing as I have from midday Wed to this morning! Problem was, the first time I woke up the only thing I could contemplate eating was bread with sea salt butter. I was home alone, so no-one to cook me anything else, and, to be honest, the thought of anything other than b+b just made me feel sick.

So, I succumbed. There was a cob loaf in the freezer which I took out, and ate over the course of the 24 hours. In my defence, whilst every other time I've had carbs since May I found them to feel horrid in my mouth and been totally unsatisfactory, this time it simply hit the spot. So, I reckon that my body needed something that was in the bread and I'm not going to feel bad about it.

However, today is another day and despite still feeling a bit odd still I'm back on the LCHF.

Veryflummoxed · 13/10/2017 11:07

* It's so variable, the relation between weight and size isn't it, from person to person?*
I’m 13. 7. 5 ft 6 . A size 18 up stairs and a size 12/14 downstairs. An apple, so elastic waists,as if I get a fitted waist my bum and legs are swamped.

BIWI · 13/10/2017 11:16

@thedayismine

Had a minor ( I hope !) blip last night as we cooked salmon with stir fry veg - and I had bought some konjac noodles as I read they were zero carb - stupidly didnt check the packet before we cooked them and they are 8.4g carbs per 100g

What brand were they? I'm really surprised by that carb count, because konjac noodles are really low carb! The ones you can buy in Sainsbury's and other supermarkets are branded Bare Naked Noodles, and this is the nutritional information:

(per 100g serving of drained noodles)
Energy 50kJ 12kcal
Fat 0.1g
of which saturates 0.1g
Carbohydrates 0.9g
Sugars 0.1g
Fibre 3.9g
Protein 0.2g
Salt 0.01g

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Veryflummoxed · 13/10/2017 11:19

I have a duck.* She* imagined it gracefully waddling round your front lawn (till I read the next line)

Well done Time.* Glad you’re back in it.*

BIWI · 13/10/2017 11:20

@Scabbersley

Just been for a jog and then had a plate of Oomi noodles (6g of carbs)

That's a lot of carbs for something that isn't vegetable or salad though! You'd be better off with the Bare Naked Noodles

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